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KNOBTAIL said:
As a general rule, the credit card that was used to make the purchase was payable to Paypal and not the seller. So once this person agreed to use that service to pay you, he basically gave up his right to deal with the credit card company directly . There maybe some situations that involve fraud where the credit card company comes into the picture, but its basically between Paypal the buyer and the seller.

What I dont understand is why the postal delivery was given to a neighbor in the first place. Usually its one of 2 choices. Signature required or No Signature required. If the person is not there to accept delivery , a notice is left. From my understanding if NO Signature required is checked off , then the post office may under their discretion leave the box with someone else as is the case here. But under what circumstances was the box left?

Also, dont deal with this person any longer and keep your information between Paypal and yourself. Lets see if his bank wants to get involved, and who the chargeback ends up against you or Paypal. That will be your starting point.
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Jerry,
thank you for your input. I shipped them with no waiver of signature which means signature required, as far as I know. I know that is odd of the carrier to leave it with the neighbor, but I work at a pharmacy that ships refrigerated medication, and when it is left at a neighbor's home with a signature required it is their discretion as to whether they leave it with a neighbor or not, "for the safety of the package." Or at least that is what I'm told when I question them on our company's behalf. Anyhow - the PayPal rep seems very reassuring... but I know of people who ended up on the losing end. We'll see what happens in 75 days... :shrug01:

Deb Salgado
 
1. The seller should to insure a parcel on any emergency.

2. If business concerns payments for purchase, the seller should to request the signature of the buyer at parcel reception.

3. The seller should notify the employees of post office about live animals and to specify it on a parcel.

4. The seller should inform the buyer correct tracking number of a parcel at once after parcel sending.

5. The parcel should be delivered to the addressee in time but if the addressee of a parcel is not present, the postman is obliged to leave the delivery notice.

6. If the buyer cannot receive a parcel in the specified term, he in writing notifies the postman instructions of a new place of delivery.

7. Nobody has the rights to receive the personal correspondence for the owner if the addressee in writing does not specify an alternative place of delivery in written form.

I have understood from the comment and your correspondence: any of the conditions set forth above are not observed by the seller. The parcel is not delivered in time. The parcel is not delivered to the addressee. What claims to the buyer? All claims to post office and post workers. Also, from all written here, I see a negligence and illiteracy of the seller first of all.
 
Genius said:
1. The seller should to insure a parcel on any emergency.

2. If business concerns payments for purchase, the seller should to request the signature of the buyer at parcel reception.

3. The seller should notify the employees of post office about live animals and to specify it on a parcel.

4. The seller should inform the buyer correct tracking number of a parcel at once after parcel sending.

5. The parcel should be delivered to the addressee in time but if the addressee of a parcel is not present, the postman is obliged to leave the delivery notice.

6. If the buyer cannot receive a parcel in the specified term, he in writing notifies the postman instructions of a new place of delivery.

7. Nobody has the rights to receive the personal correspondence for the owner if the addressee in writing does not specify an alternative place of delivery in written form.

I have understood from the comment and your correspondence: any of the conditions set forth above are not observed by the seller. The parcel is not delivered in time. The parcel is not delivered to the addressee. What claims to the buyer? All claims to post office and post workers. Also, from all written here, I see a negligence and illiteracy of the seller first of all.
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Nice try, whoever you are, but nope.
Negligence requires duty. There is no duty for the seller to monitor the post office, the post office is responsible for their own errors. In any case, once buyer is notified by seller of the location of said package (next door) buyer is negligent if he ignores this info because at that point he has actual notice, he does not need official notice.

On a different matter, Staten Island is a very small place. I think it would be worthwhile writing this herp club and including a link to this thread and the name of the buyer and see if they have info about him:

http://www.metroherpsociety.org/
 
lucille said:
Deb

Has he sent any tracking info that proves he sent the package back?
I agree that I would not deal with him; especially since the fact that the neighbor signing for the package had nothing to do with you.
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If he received a package but if the package is not received? :shootfoot
 
Genius said:
If he received a package but if the package is not received? :shootfoot
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You are no genius, honey. If you are talking about the buyer, he received notice that the package was next door. If you are talking about the seller who claimed to have sent a package back, he has not bothered to provide tracking info so his veracity is in question until he does.
 
buywholefrogs said:
Hello Lucille,
...He did not provide any tracking information about sending the frogs back...
Deb Salgado
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If he has not received a package that he should return to you? :confused:
 
Well Ladies and Gentlemen... it's no secret who this "Genius" person is given the lack of ability to communicate with proper grammar.

I appreciate all of your help. I am going to be for the evening... I will check on this post first thing in the A.M.

Deb Salgado
 
Genius said:
If he has not received a package that he should return to you? :confused:
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Why are you here, you can deal with the post office. Anything else is a scam attempt.
 
buywholefrogs said:
Well Ladies and Gentlemen... it's no secret who this "Genius" person is given the lack of ability to communicate with proper grammar.

I appreciate all of your help. I am going to be for the evening... I will check on this post first thing in the A.M.

Deb Salgado
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Sorry, going to BED for the evening.

Proper Grammer... that's not good for me to day as I do not practice it! But I'm sure you know what I am saying!

It's been a long day and the significant other is sick which makes him a child that needs pampering :ack2:

Deb
 
lucille said:
...If you are talking about the buyer, he received notice that the package was next door...
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It is true, he should receive such any the notice but if the postman did not leave the notice? :angry:
 
buywholefrogs said:
Sorry, going to BED for the evening.

Proper Grammer... that's not good for me to day as I do not practice it! But I'm sure you know what I am saying!

It's been a long day and the significant other is sick which makes him a child that needs pampering :ack2:

Deb
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I hope he feels better soon :) Don't worry about Genius boy here.
 
Genius said:
It is true, he should receive such any the notice but if the postman did not leave the notice? :angry:
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Genius boy, go deal with the post office.
 
Critterfarm said:
Question -

If he makes a mistake and sends you an incorrect tracking number, you're not there to sign for the package but your neighbor does, then it's your fault right?
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:NoNo:

Oh! Neighbours have no rights for reception of the correspondence not addressed to him. Who has granted the rights to neighbours to receive the package? :shootfoot
 
lucille said:
Genius boy, go deal with the post office.
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With federals? :eek: It will turn out nothing. :shootfoot You will have legal proceedings to death.
 
Genius said:
:NoNo:

Oh! Neighbours have no rights for reception of the correspondence not addressed to him. Who has granted the rights to neighbours to receive the package? :shootfoot
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The post office did that, Genius boy. We already agreed to that point at post #25. So why are you here? We are not the postal authorities.
Do you have the frogs now?
 
lucille said:
Why are you here, you can deal with the post office. Anything else is a scam attempt.
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Why are you here? I see the situation and errors of the seller. The buyer is not guilty. :rolleyes: If you do not receive the ordered goods from any shop, call to the seller and he send to you your order again. The owner of shop himself finds out the reasons of loss with USPS and for this purpose has the insurance. She has written "works in a drugstore" and should know perfectly all of it. :ack2:
 
Timeline:

Deb ships frogs to Genius boy
Frogs get misdelivered next door
Deb notifies Genius boy of their location
Genius bou sends Deb an email saying he can get adult froggies at Petland at the same price (post #11)
Deb says he wants a refund and says that he said that he has shipped them back and she should have them by now, but provides no tracking number
Genius boy agrees in this thread that the post office is responsible for its own errors
But then says that it is too difficult to go after them
And is silent when asked where the frogs are now.

Where are the frogs, Genius boy?
 
lucille said:
Timeline:

Deb ships frogs to Genius boy...
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:rofl: I did not order frogs and I'm not the buyer. We can shout and wave hands as much as necessary, but the law is the law and nobody cancelled rules of mailing. :D
 
Mr. Beralpo,
I believe you are in violation of the full name rule that requires poster on the BOI to post their real names with their comments. After doing a little research on your alias, "All Beralpo", I found it associated with the name Alexandroff Progrebnoj.
If you do not sign your real name you are at risk of having your posts deleted.
I believe you are indeed the person who is attempting to defraud Ms. Salgado so why not get honest and drop the smoke screen.
 
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