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ed clark- liar, theif, bad guy- will you answer questions NOW?

I am not referring to the making of the statement,I am referring to the assertions here that you stated aninals you have sold as "bred by you" might have been sold as that,when they were really bred by someone else or w/c.That is what I am referring to.
 
No offense in selling them as long as they are honestly represented as what they are.I don't pay attention to all the other personal stuff going on,just what is truly relevant.There seems to be a credibility issue here.I do exactly what you do,ecept I import from SouthEast Asia,but I let my customers know what they are getting to the best of my ability.Sometimes my exporter provides me with actual captive bred stock,not captive farmed or ranched.I try to represent it for what it is,as honestly as possible.
 
Ed Clark said:
Where is a half truth or lie in that statement?

I said I produce most of what I sell, but I do buy some things to resell at times.

I know lots of breeders that trade or buy off of each other to get stuff they dont have or need. and once again I dont see anything wrong with that and why some are making it an issue.
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It becomes an issue when you sell supposed cbb ball pythons, and turn around almost a year later and state that you DON'T KNOW if they were cbb or wc/ch. Even i don't believe that your eyes are so full of jedi member spunk that you can't read a label.
 
marcus q said:
No offense in selling them as long as they are honestly represented as what they are.
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Bingo, It must be sold exactly for what it is. :thumbsup:

And dont pay attention to the personal attacks, I think most can see through all the personal issues that mean absolutly nothing other than showing someone for who they are.
 
snake5007 said:
Ed, you're a scum sucking piece of shit. judging by the look on those frogs faces that you posted, even they don't want to be affiliated with you. Wes must strike the fear of god into you, that much is clear by the actions you took. You're a slimy two faced bastard.
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Very intelligent post, I see you are a Wes fan? Its not about Ed vs Wes.

Dont believe any of the possible lies that may have been posted, dont be ruled by your anger.

Bring some facts and proof to this board if you want to attack me, calling names is just childish and will get you no where.
 
Well I am glad you see the merit in my personal mantra for doing business,but there is still the assertion that you have misrepresented animals,and I think it would be worth the salt to clear all that up.You do have some nice stuff for sale,but people will look somewhere else if they feel they are not being dealt with honestly.Even if Wes was aggressive in his stance,he did bring up some questions that require straightforward honest answers,which may not be the easiest thing to do,but it would be the best thing.
 
marcus q said:
but there is still the assertion that you have misrepresented animals.
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Thats not true, its a lie that was perpetrated by Wes to make me look bad, thats all.

I have never misrepresented anything that I know of.

Mis sexed a snake once but took it back and refunded the money to satisfy the person that purchased it.

Its funny how a lie snowballs here and then its believed to be the truth after awhile.
 
As I said, I'm NOT going to go back and rehash all of this stuff, proof of which has been posted long ago. If someone has the time and inclination to waste on reposting it, feel free. I don't have that at the moment.

Perhaps your quarantine procedures have changed since then, if so great.

But the fact remains, you had NO quarantine procedures at the time those snakes with mites were sold.

As I said a long, long time ago.......it all comes down to honesty. What may very well have started with small, honest mistakes are no longer honest mistakes anymore when you start lying to cover them up and save face. A real man (or woman) would man up to their mistakes and make them right, not keep digging deeper to hide them. Nor do they try to deflect blame by stating that the animals others got were things that they were not.

Pretty simple.
 
Aw heck...I'm waiting for my steaks to marinade before I get dinner going, may as well kill some time with some of the unanswered questions, since it seems Ed is in a question-answering mood. :D

Here's a couple quotes from the thread about the Cresties he sent Daniel...Ed's explanation of why he wouldn't send Daniel the geckos he currently had for sale:

Ed Clark said:
not my high end morphs, but normals that he originally purchased.
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And then he says the animals that he sent to Daniel that died were from Emily Cook (the one who got the parasite infested BPs)

Ed Clark said:
The geckos I sent Daniel came from Emily Cook.
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Yet, Emily sent Ed high-end crested morphs, not the normals Ed said Daniel had gotten:

Emily Cook said:
Convenient, but must be mistaken--I did not send you any normals, but a very nice group of morphs (a very nice pair of reds, harleys, a yellow tiger, etc.). I don't breed normals nor do I own any (for any non-crested people, a normal is a brown, buckskin colored gecko).
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So....which was it? Did Daniel buy normals, or did he get the morphs from Emily? :shrug01:
 
And again....

Ed Clark said:
What he recieved was normals and thats what I will send as soon as I feel they are big enought to ship.
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But, Daniel confirms that he did NOT purchase normals as Ed insists...

Daniel Moore said:
The animals in question were and are not buckskins or normals, most if not all are a "morph" of some type partial pinners flames harleys dalmations etc. I have yet to hear a direct reply from Ed. I patiently await a response.
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I wouldn't blame Daniel for not wanting normals as a replacement for the high-end animals he paid for. :shrug01:
 
Ed Clark said:
Very intelligent post, I see you are a Wes fan? Its not about Ed vs Wes.

Dont believe any of the possible lies that may have been posted, dont be ruled by your anger.

Bring some facts and proof to this board if you want to attack me, calling names is just childish and will get you no where.
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You missed my second post. It's time to get that crap out of your eyes Ed. :yesnod:
 
Ed Clark said:
Thats not true, its a lie that was perpetrated by Wes to make me look bad, thats all.

I have never misrepresented anything that I know of.

Mis sexed a snake once but took it back and refunded the money to satisfy the person that purchased it.

Its funny how a lie snowballs here and then its believed to be the truth after awhile.
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You'd know all about lies snowballing out of control wouldn't you Ed?
 
Ed Clark said:
Thats not true, its a lie that was perpetrated by Wes to make me look bad, thats all.

I have never misrepresented anything that I know of.
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You never misrepresented anything in a classified ad here on fauna? One say that may have been about ball morphs and locked down by supermods?
 
critical bill said:
You never misrepresented anything in a classified ad here on fauna? One say that may have been about ball morphs and locked down by supermods?
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Yeah, and then unlocked and edited by Ed....but that's just a "minor" detail, eh?
 
Cat_72 said:
And again....



But, Daniel confirms that he did NOT purchase normals as Ed insists...



I wouldn't blame Daniel for not wanting normals as a replacement for the high-end animals he paid for. :shrug01:
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BINGO! I'd have washed my hands of :censored: sucker too.
 
critical bill said:
I think he knows a whole mouthfull about snowballing. His two best friends are the jedi bunk boys.
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As long as I am playing the game again, I'd suggest that comments of this nature be curtailed - and not just by Chuck, or on this thread. And, unless the thread directly pertains to Bud and/or Bruce, there is no reason to bring them up.
 
And of course, here's an example of Ed's "strict" quarantine procedures....does ANYONE think it's anything resembling quarantine when animals that just came in are put into the same rack as animals that are established, and already sold to a customer?

Ed Clark said:
Heres the problem with the mites in 1 of my baby racks. I bought a pair of ball python morphs for myself to keep that came from BHB in Michigan about a week and a half ago. Gave them a quick soaking then put them into one of my baby racks. I hear today that I sent a ball python to april with mites. Was a little surprised because I have never had mites and normally treat everything I buy before its put away. Did not expect this coming from Brian Barczyk.
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Of course in email, he tells the customer that the mites must have come in on rodents purchased at a pet shop:

Ed Clark said:
April, did not know I had mites in the baby rack, have been buying some rodents from the pet shop the last couple of months and maybe thats what happened?

the black ate on sat and the pastel last weekend. Small rats, sorry about giving you the gift that keeps on giving.
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Two words, "wasted breath". Lets face it; nothing is going to change anything. Scammers can post ads here as long as they pay. There is no way to out them, that is sad but true. If a questionable seller sells here, there is nothing that can make him answer for his acts. The truth is, even Chris Johnson can come back on here and pay his dues, he can then place ads, lock the threads and sit right here with us. And there is nothing that you or me can do to change that fact, the only way we could out him is if he violates the rules.

Lets face it guys, it is open house here folks.

I am not saying who is right or who is wrong, just stating the facts here.

I will take it a step farther, how many scammers do you know have been busted on the BOI? Now, how many of them ever spent one night in jail for scamming the web. Even with all of the proof, the facts are, they walk every time. Not one of them have been stopped for scamming, or ever had to pay for their actions. I am sorry, but it is just wasted breath/time, that’s about all.

Everyone knows I have never had any love for Ed Clark, but what good does it really do to chase him? Is it really going to change anything, I mean really?
 
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