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Info Em Wright of Crimson Ice Reptiles... you decide

Oh and one more thing.

I'm sorry if I act like this is all about me. But he did put my name on the thread and I was accused of attempting to rip him off. Sorry, but I think talking about me is warranted. :-/
 
Venting in an obscure thread didn't hurt Kevin.
Reality check: Obviously if it is here, it was public enough to get here.

Em Wright said:
Vindictively posting a BOI thread about me HAS put me in a very negative light.

Sister, you put yourself in the light, with your own actions.
 
I'm pretty sure your own action's have done a fine job alone!!


Right...

Difference.

I was venting in a place that people do NOT check before doing business with an individual. I posted in a photo gallery thread that was dead until HIS friend resurrected it and the situation.

Kevin made a thread with not only my name and my business name, but did so in a place that many people check to see if doing business with someone is a good idea or not.

Conclusion.

Venting in an obscure thread didn't hurt Kevin. Vindictively posting a BOI thread about me HAS put me in a very negative light.

Furthermore. I have apologized to Kevin and offered to have a mod remove the post or the whole thread should he desire it done. What more do you want?
 
Reality check, I'm not your sister.

The only reason it's here is because Kevin posted the BOI... but somehow I was hurting him with the post? Did you know about the thread before he posted about it here? Did anyone? And if you did see it, did you know the post was about Kevin BEFORE he posted the BOI?

Seems to me that Kevin is the one who aired all of this. But as I said, if he's so worried about that one post, I can ask that it be removed. He has only to give me the word.

Furthermore, I have admitted that making the post in the first place was a mistake. I can't go back in time and change it. So what else do you want? What will make you people happy? How can I fix it? Tell me and I will do everything in my power to fix it?

Want me to run naked in the streets screaming Kevin is a fantastic guy and I'm pond scum? Want me to kiss his feet and announce that he's a saint? What? Come on, tell me what you want!
 
I hate that my post on CS.com has been viewed as bashing. It was venting, yes. I was angry, yes. If it's such a big deal I'm sure I can have a mod remove it to save Kevin's reputation.

I am not out to hurt Kevin. I am satisfied with the results of the deal. Why must this continue? Kevin if you had been so upset about me speaking publicly you could have simply said in an email that you wanted it removed and I would have PMed a mod to have it done. Simple as that. I am a reasonable person.

Why must I ask? Did you not think someone would put 2 and 2 together and come up with me. Afterall... folks from here visit there and vice versa. You didn't even give me the opportunity to make things right before you started your 'venting' session over there. Why would I think you would be willing to ask someone to remove the thread.... which Im pretty certian wouldn't happen because others had posted in it and the thread didn't break any rules.

It's one thing to go off on me... but to also complain about which one of my folks help you get your animals and rack. They offered to help me, help you get what you had paid for. From my perspective it looks like your out to bash me and bring my folks into it as well.

You knew I hung out over here. All you had to do was contact me and say... I think the gentics are in question and this is why.... I would have done the same thing I did even after you 'vented'. I would have offered to take all 3 back and give you your money back. You never gave me that chance.

The part that bothers me... everyone is so worried about Kevin's reputation, even though he's out of the business. Yet no one ever gave my reputation a second thought... some even went so far as to throw out horrible accusations as to my intentions without even knowing me or hearing my side of the story. How much will this thread hurt me in the future? Does anyone even care or are you only concerned with Kevin? You know I've worked hard to build a good reputation, to do what's right, to keep my head in a bad situation, and to take good care of my animals... with this single thread, with one single man who felt I slighted him, all of my hard work and effort could be washed down the drain.

Em... if I was out to destroy your reputation... I would have put a big red X in front of your name. I however did not. I simply started an info thread. I felt that was much more appropriate for the situation.

I may be out of the business, but that doesn't mean I want my rep tarnished by someone that wasn't posting up both sides of the story over on CS. Until I brought it up over there... you never did make a post saying that I tried to make you happy by offering a refund. You left it open for the members there (and lurkers) to make up their mind as to... her seller left her hanging.

You know someone mentioned that I have been around the BOI a bit and I should know the consequences or whatever. That entered my mind... that's why I sent emails to Kevin, that's why I tried to remain professional in my emails. None of it mattered. I'm still being raked over the coals and for what? Absolutely nothing. I made a public post about a business transaction. I make lots of public posts about business transactions, usually in a photo thread sharing an animal I just got from someone. The difference is that I'm usually praising the seller, not venting my dissatisfaction. I wasn't trying to ruin Kevin, I was just venting. Maybe you don't see a difference, but I do.

The key is... you didn't even give me the chance to make it right with you before venting your dissatisfaction. If I would have told you to go piss up a rope.... burn me down. But I never did. Yes you did send the emails.... about 30 mins after making your post on CS. And I even offered in that first email to make it right and refund your money with the return of the animals. You then got all uptight because I said I would sell those 3 to the buyer that bought me out. What am I going to do with them? I'm out of the business remember :shrug01:

Everyone makes mistakes, everyone misinterprets what is written down. We are all human. I'm sure even Kevin has some skeletons in his closet where he didn't always do the best thing in a given situation. Where is the BOI thread about that? Where is the BOI thread for every time you misstep or misspeak? You can sit on your high horses and act like I'm the lowest form of scum, but the truth is you've made mistakes, too.

Once again... if I thought you were the lowest form of scum... you'd have a red X in front of this thread. You dont. I was giving the readers a chance to make up their own mind on the situation and not trying to influence them with that X. As for the high horse.... I dont know what your talking about.

You 'vented' as you say... but you didn't contact me till 30 minutes later... and in that venting you bring my folks into it. What was I suppose to think? How was I suppose to feel?
 
a polite apology for the snotty better than you attitude that got you into this mess~ and the whole thing would drop and quietly scroll off into obscurity. People who read it will see that you had a little snit fit, got over it and acted like an adult.

That really is your best plan. Your embarrassed now~ don't make it worse. Stop justifying, stop trying to play martyr~ just suck it up, Apologize and move on.
 
Seems to me that Kevin is the one who aired all of this.



You must be kidding. This entire deal is because YOU aired business, and now you are crying because it came back on you.

Other people might not want their business aired, whether you run naked through the streets or not :rolleyes:
 
Kevin made a thread with not only my name and my business name, but did so in a place that many people check to see if doing business with someone is a good idea or not.

Em I made the thread title in accordance with the rules here. Nothing more... nothing less. I could have put a whole lot of things after your name. I didn't.
 
Cheryl, I did apologize to Kevin. A couple pages ago and I believe more than once. Did you ever stop to think that the people coming in to make snide comments and run me down is what's upsetting me? A friend was even nice enough to come in and speak up for me and he got blasted, too. I'm certainly not the only one with the snitty attitude around here.

Kevin. Your folks are great, your dad was nice and friendly, even took the kingsnakes out for me to see. I appreciate that he did that, I wasn't slamming them. Why do you see everything I said as an attack? It wasn't!

Again. I apologize for venting in public about you Kevin. I apologize for any snappy responses to you or any perceived hostility. I appreciate your efforts, all of them, in making it right. I am sorry for all the misunderstandings and miscommunication between us. What more can I do to make it right for YOU? To hell with everyone else in this thread, what can I do to make it right to YOU Kevin?
 
I fixed it for you~ try it this way

Kevin. Your folks are great, your dad was nice and friendly, even took the kingsnakes out for me to see. I appreciate that he did that,

Again. I apologize for venting in public, any snappy responses or any perceived hostility. I appreciate your efforts, all of them, in making it right. I am sorry for all the misunderstandings and miscommunication between us.

Something like that is likely to get you a return apology for any perceived hostility, misunderstandings and mis-communication and put an end to this. You asked what you had to do to put an end to it. Thats my suggestion.
 
Reality check, I'm not your sister.

The only reason it's here is because Kevin posted the BOI... but somehow I was hurting him with the post? Did you know about the thread before he posted about it here? Did anyone? And if you did see it, did you know the post was about Kevin BEFORE he posted the BOI?

Seems to me that Kevin is the one who aired all of this. But as I said, if he's so worried about that one post, I can ask that it be removed. He has only to give me the word.

Furthermore, I have admitted that making the post in the first place was a mistake. I can't go back in time and change it. So what else do you want? What will make you people happy? How can I fix it? Tell me and I will do everything in my power to fix it?

Want me to run naked in the streets screaming Kevin is a fantastic guy and I'm pond scum? Want me to kiss his feet and announce that he's a saint? What? Come on, tell me what you want!

Em... in your venting... you said you have not talked to the seller yet. However after you did... and you decided to keep the snakes and decline my offer of a refund... you never went back and posted. You left it up to the imagination that your seller was not willing to take care of the problem. You even told Rich that you weren't happy with the transaction (or whatever you want to call it) instead of saying somewhere in that post that had tried to make it right and you decided to keep them. Once again its left up to the reader to surmize whether or not your seller tried to do the right thing.

As to the last offer.... No that is not what I want... and I will publically denoucne anyone that does. I am not out to humiliate you... I am only venting about what took place with a buyer.... what my thoughts were during this. The difference is... I posted up both sides of the story... not just my own side.
 
You must be kidding. This entire deal is because YOU aired business, and now you are crying because it came back on you.

Other people might not want their business aired, whether you run naked through the streets or not :rolleyes:

Lucille... As I said... I do not wish her to make such a gesture... and no-one else should either.
 
I have spoken to a mod to have the off-topic Kevin bashing removed from the thread.

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If there is anything else I can do to right this wrong, please let me know Kevin.
 
Snitty attitude still here. :shootfoot Hello, I personally do not care that you are upset. You know very well what you did. It's all right there in the emails for the discerning reader. All the justification and backtracking now is going to accomplish exactly nothing.

Of course, we don't know your "intent" but it seems pretty clear from the emails and posts that you also didn't give any thought to Kevin's feelings and I read your complaint about his mother not being there to help as exactly THAT...a COMPLAINT...never mind that YOU WERE NOT ON TIME in the first place!:eek: All your posts gloss over your errors while continuing to bash Kevin for preceived errors. Even now, you are acting like all this mess is HIS fault.

All you need to do is post, " I am sorry, Kevin." and then leave the thread alone, do not attempt any further justifications.:shrug01:

***You know, I was once in your position. Someone told me the best thing I could do was, "Shut up." Apparently, I was getting in my own way. I have several posts where I have had to shut up, nothing to be embarrassed about. I have learned to know when I am falling all over myself and being snotty and I STILL make mistakes. :ack2: :rofl:

Cheryl, I did apologize to Kevin. A couple pages ago and I believe more than once. Did you ever stop to think that the people coming in to make snide comments and run me down is what's upsetting me? A friend was even nice enough to come in and speak up for me and he got blasted, too. I'm certainly not the only one with the snitty attitude around here.

Kevin. Your folks are great, your dad was nice and friendly, even took the kingsnakes out for me to see. I appreciate that he did that, I wasn't slamming them. Why do you see everything I said as an attack? It wasn't!

Again. I apologize for venting in public about you Kevin. I apologize for any snappy responses to you or any perceived hostility. I appreciate your efforts, all of them, in making it right. I am sorry for all the misunderstandings and miscommunication between us. What more can I do to make it right for YOU? To hell with everyone else in this thread, what can I do to make it right to YOU Kevin?
 
Again. I apologize for venting in public about you Kevin. I apologize for any snappy responses to you or any perceived hostility. I appreciate your efforts, all of them, in making it right. I am sorry for all the misunderstandings and miscommunication between us. What more can I do to make it right for YOU? To hell with everyone else in this thread, what can I do to make it right to YOU Kevin?

I say again.
 
Cheryl, I did apologize to Kevin. A couple pages ago and I believe more than once. Did you ever stop to think that the people coming in to make snide comments and run me down is what's upsetting me? A friend was even nice enough to come in and speak up for me and he got blasted, too. I'm certainly not the only one with the snitty attitude around here.

Kevin. Your folks are great, your dad was nice and friendly, even took the kingsnakes out for me to see. I appreciate that he did that, I wasn't slamming them. Why do you see everything I said as an attack? It wasn't!

Again. I apologize for venting in public about you Kevin. I apologize for any snappy responses to you or any perceived hostility. I appreciate your efforts, all of them, in making it right. I am sorry for all the misunderstandings and miscommunication between us. What more can I do to make it right for YOU? To hell with everyone else in this thread, what can I do to make it right to YOU Kevin?

Em... all I want is ... think before you vent. Give your seller a chance to make it right before you put them on blast. If they dont make it right... blast the hell out of them. Send me the info and I'll help you blast the hell out of them if they are in the wrong. :yesnod:

I want you to know... I only decided to post this after you made your comment to Rich and still didn't post that you had declined the refund. The way you made it sound... you still weren't happy with the purchase but was keeping them. In most folks mind that means the seller didn't do what was right.
 
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