First and foremost, I'm Human. I have close to 180 emails I have not responded to over the past few days because I have a nasty viral infection that is taking its sweet time going away. I'm alternating between sleeping and taking care of my kids, animals, and my customers. I'm only one person, and I can only do so much in a day, especially when I'm not 100%. So I do apologize to anyone I have not responded to yet. I'm slowly getting that problem taken care of, but I can only answer 5 or 6 emails at a time before the room starts spinning. I've already had to walk away from this post 3 times now because of that very reason.......
Now to the emails. This is only the backhalf on the email string. For whatever reason, I cannot find the emails where the transaction had taken place. I maybe able to find them later, but these are basically the pertinent emails. They read from bottom to top.....
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Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 16:53:12 -0400
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Subject: Re: savannah monitor
From: Kevin Throckmorton <
[email protected]>
To: Eric Ivins <
[email protected]>
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We have him in our reptile room, which just has 4 bearded dragons in 2
separate cages. He has a water bowl in his cage which is big enough for him
to get in but I have not seen him use it. For substrate we are using
topsoil, about 5'' deep. Im not sure what ambient temperatures are but his
basking spot is 121* and on the cool side it ranges from 75-80*. I was
reading online that possibly I could open his mouth and put a cricket in
there myself but I don't want to traumatize him. I haven't handled him
since the email you told me not to. Do you think I should try shooting some
water in his mouth with a child's medicine dropper? Any help would be
appreciated, I'm just becoming very concerned at this point.
On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 8:14 AM, Eric Ivins <
[email protected]>wrote:
> Is the animal in a very low traffic area? At this point, you need to make
> sure the animal is hydrated, otherwise it will not eat. What is the ambient
> temperature? Substrate?
>
> Thanks,
> Eric
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Kevin Throckmorton <
>
[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi, I just wanted to give you an update on the savannah monitor we
>> purchased from you. We have tried a handful of crickets in his enclosure
>> and he still will not eat. His basking spot is 120 and his humidity is
>> constand 65%. It just seems like he is very weak and sleeps all day. He is
>> drinking some water but not much. I don't know how much longer he can hold
>> up, i can tell by looking at him he has lost some weight. We have not
>> handled him in over a week, we only go into the cage to change his water
>> bowl and mist the cage. I usually put 5 or 6 crickets at a time in there
>> and he is not even attempting to eat them, he just lets the crickets walk
>> all over him. Any help would be greatly appreciated, I just dont want him
>> to die.
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 9:01 AM, Eric Ivins <
[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> Crickets. At this point they are not going to eat anything but
>>> invertebrates. Trying all these different foods is only going to serve to
>>> stress the animal out. Make sure the animal is in a low traffic
>>> environment, and is only checked on once or twice a day at the most. No
>>> handleing or looking at it untill it starts to eat.You also have to have a
>>> basking spot that is atleast 120 degrees, or the animal will never eat
>>> because it can't get itself up to normal operating temperatures, which is
>>> usually around 105 degrees.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Eric
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 5:16 PM, Kevin Throckmorton <
>>>
[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm having trouble getting the monitor to eat, I've tried dubias,
>>>> mealworms, boiled egg, and even canned dog food. He's just not eating at
>>>> all. What were you feeding him when you had him? Maybe I can try what you
>>>> were feeding. His cage temps are fine and he has everything he needs..I've
>>>> read numerous care sheets online for savannahs. I was reading online that a
>>>> lot of imported savannah's arrive sick and full of parasites and I just
>>>> wanted to know if this is the case with my savannah.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
A few points here -
1 - The animal was never given time to settle in. There should be a minimum of a week to let the animal adjust before any attempt is made at working with the animal. This is the email that was sent when the animal was received.....
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 22:06:41 -0400
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Subject: Re: savannah monitor babys
From: Kevin Throckmorton <[email protected]>
To: Eric Ivins <[email protected]>
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the monitor arrived today safe and sound, hes def ALOT bigger than I was
expecting. I had two hatchlings once and they were quite abit smaller. He
is taking to handling better than I thought and I feel like hes starting to
trust me some. Thanks again for the quick turn around and I'm very happy
with the purchase.
2 - Just because the animal is drinking does not mean it is not dehydrated. How is the humidity being measured? Temperature? While soil may be one of the best substrates for Varanus, it is the soil composition and moisture content that matters. If the moisture content is too low, it will serve to furthur dehydrate an already stressed out animal......
3 - Trying to feed the animal in a bunch of different places is going to furthur stress the animal out. It will not acclimate to the new surroundings if this keeps happening.
4 - What I see wrong is a very stressed Savannah. Where are pictures of the animal? I have seen this animal eat in front of me. It was not moved or touched to do so. I want to see pictures of both the animal and setup before I proceed......