Erik Stoops. Center for Reptile and Amphibian research bad guy so far.

[John E Dove]

Thank you for your reply Dr. Owens I feel better about the situation now an will be doubly careful in the future about how I word such posts should a similar circumstance arise.

 

[Ballroom]

Brian,
It was in 2 days.

 

[dsirkle]

The Centers legal firm has been monitoring this for a week and do to the lack of unprofessionalism we are already in process of filing legal action against Mr. Cole and his company.We also have all relevant information of the parties who made unprofessional,slanderous remarks against the Center and it's principals.The snake issue is a civil matter which usually means it would have to be settled in the state the snake was sent or perished in.Slander,deflamation of character and misuse of private material and a host of others is a criminal matter that is prosecutable in either state which Mr. Cole will be advised of by our council.Calling our organization and it's principals a thief or a con artist on a public forum is a criminal matter and will be prosecuted as such.According to our firm we are entitled to excessive monetary damages.In todays political correctness,society you have to be careful what you say on a public forum,because under the law parties can sue for misrepresentation of thought.

If your lawyers don't know the difference between libel and slander it isn't likely that any action brought about by them will be be successful.

 

[spawn]

Guys, guys, guys (and gals), we have all been quoting the WRONG STUFF all along...

misrepresentation of thought

That was surely the best string of nonsensical words yet. I'm still trying to figure out if I should read it from left-to-right or vice versa.


But seriously. This Center for Research has done its duty to the Earth and is making great attempts at suing for hypocrisy. Screw it. There are so many circles of logic the guy threw at us I can't unravel it. Pay the guy for the unkept deal.

 

[nora]

ok that was a lot of reading...

do leucistic blue tongue skinks come with hot purple or neon red tongues?

and ya'll better stop with the deflamation or donnie's gonna sick judge judy on you!

 

[nora]

oh one other thing...technically if michael were to counter-sue, his case would hold up in court as he can provide written/published emails stating that Erik would still abide to the original agreement and send what is owed, (or in the case of the law) pay money that is equal to the value of the snakes to be received... erik not once in any of those emails that michael pasted, did he say that he was NOT gonna pay up.

Now take that to the lawyers donnie and see what they say about that.

 

[justinmorse]

After reading through this entire thread, all I can say is I wish you the best, Michael, in aquiring the money or animals that are rightfully yours.




All I know is, I don't EVER want to be deflamated, and I would love to lack a large amount of unprofessionalism.

 

[ravensgait]

Guys, guys, guys (and gals), we have all been quoting the WRONG STUFF all along...

misrepresentation of thought

That was surely the best string of nonsensical words yet. I'm still trying to figure out if I should read it from left-to-right or vice versa.


But seriously. This Center for Research has done its duty to the Earth and is making great attempts at suing for hypocrisy. Screw it. There are so many circles of logic the guy threw at us I can't unravel it. Pay the guy for the unkept deal.

Frank, my guess would be that he watched that movie that came out a number of years ago staring Tom Snooze, can't remember the name but the plot was they would arrest people for murder before they committed the crime. Sort of Thought police, they could sense or see the crime before ya did it and presto your busted.

But seeing as Don in this case is just misrepresenting Intelligence 'His' and well I guess if your read his post you do see Misrepresentation of Thought again 'His'. I also get the feeling that when he mentions Attorney he is representing himself and you know what they say about being your own lawyer in a court of law! Something about having a Fool for an attorney or something like that... I can just see him setting at a table discussing this thread with his legal team IE himself and 2 mirrors.

Don you guys owe Michael for the snake you've said in writing that you owe Michael for the snake ! So how about writing Michael a check(a good one) for the $2750.00 that you legally owe him.. Randy

 

[justinmorse]

Frank, my guess would be that he watched that movie that came out a number of years ago staring Tom Snooze, can't remember the name but the plot was they would arrest people for murder before they committed the crime. Sort of Thought police, they could sense or see the crime before ya did it and presto your busted.

That was "Minority Report", I believe.

 

[Ballroom]

in the time this site has been under constructon the last two

days...
I have been given notice via e-mail by a lawfirm representing.
Typically i would be Motivated to leave sleeping dogs lie but I

was a bit dissappointed by certain aspects of the leter. So here

we go...
1
The Letter stated that the snake died within days of being

received. OOPS looks like the truth was withheld from someone on

that subject. A point easy enough to see for whomever takes the

time to read this thread and see the dates on The e-mails that

would have been evident. the snake in question was alive for

MONTHS after they received it.
No mention of any sickness was even made for months after they

received it and their vet gave it a clean bill of health.

#2 contrary to someones opinion Not only was the snake well

maintained while it was here but it was also in good health

before I sent it, I do actually have a vet that examined it and

he is willing to if needed be available I am sure to answer

questions about that snakeand its condiion on leaving florida..

#3 I never once contacted any customers and threatened or even

discussed going public with my issue about not being paid.I dont

do that If I am compelled to go to a public forum it is to keep

others from being taken by someone like I was.. This thread is

not Extortion it is a public plea to a business man and his

business to do the right thing and pay for what he got. If you

buy a coffee pot from the store and break it 3 months later . You

cant do a chargeback on your credit card for it because it is not

the stores fault that the glass broke from mis handling. No

matter how much knowledge the buyer has on the handling of Glass Coffee Pots.( or lack of knowledge and just self proclimation)
I cartainly hope that before any firm put their name on a lawsuit

that they would see if there is any proof that their client has to

any of their claims. Because in a case such as this The one being

accused of extortoin probably has all of the e-mail correspondance

needed to exonerate himself of such a charge. Doubtfully however

that the accusor in a situation would want to provide any such

e-mails to their lawyer because it would show they have no case...

#4 I do NOT have an evil mind........ I have a 4 year old son who

I would like to put in college someday. If I keep losing thousands

of dollars to bad deals because I trusted someones (Written)

word. That just will not happen.I also like to sleep at night and

if Someone else gets taken advantage of because I didnt say

anything. well... I just have too much conscious to let that

happen.

#5 If I were to call someone a small time con artist. It would

be because I believe they are actually guilty of running some kind

of small con. Something like offering to pay a sum of money or

barter for an object, or a trip somewhere etc. then not paying

for it either in full or only paying for it in part.

#6 If I were to call someone a thief, It would be because I

believe that if someone steals from another either by actual theft

or by omission of payment for a good or service that person is

guilty of theft.

#7 If I were to call someone a bad guy. it would be because I

believe that good people do not con or thieve from others.

#8 If I were to call someone a dead beat buyer it would be

because
When someone is guilty of being ether a con artist or a thief. I

think that would qualify to the definition of dead beat buyer.Or

someone that does not pay for what he or she purchased.

#9 Clearly in the definition of liability of defimation I am not

guilty.The burden is clear in the first paragraph.. of its

description.
the FALSE and defamitory statement concerning another.
I have proof of all I claim.
#10 In the letter posted on this forum by a member of a certain

center... I believe untruths were spoken ( typed)publically would

not that be the actual definition of and create a liability of

defimation?? I think so. again I hold the proof of the untruths

....
Laiabel Per se is baised on the action of defimation... lets see

that goes back to the Words FALSE STATEMENT... NOT GUILTY



I therefore recant my statements and offer the following

retractions .

That.............

1 Erik Stoops and the center for reptile and amphibian research

is not a bad guy so far.

2 Erik Stoops is not a small time con artist or a thief or a dead

beat buyer who can not be trusted.

3 If you need to file a fraud charges on Mr. Stoops or have a

claim against him for either non payment of a debt or another

issue in need of attention Please disregard my information

provided. Youll need to get it yourself.

4 By the above retractins. I believe have met the requirements of

the letter received.

 

[John E Dove]

I just have one question.
Did you or did you not receive what you were supposed to receive from Mr. Erik Stoops?

 

[Ballroom]

I have received nothing but a demand letter.

 

[John E Dove]

In veiw of the fact that you did not receive what was agreed upon and in spite of the fact that Mr. Stoops paid some lawyer to email you it is my opinion the following is true.
1. It is my opinion that Mr. Erik Stoops is a thief.
2. It is my opinion that Mr. Erik Stoops is a con artist who uses others.
3. It is my opinion that Mr. Erik Stoops is a fraud.
4. It is my opinion that Mr. Erik Stoops is a liar.
5. It is my opinion that Mr. Erik Stoops and anyone who associates with him should be avoided like the slime I consider him to be.

 

[ravensgait]

Michael, now I could be wrong but I don't think that Law firms email people legal documents like that, unless they have already mailed or had them served.
Randy

 

[Ballroom]

Mr. Dove.
Interesting opinion....
Randy,
1 Congratulations on that Bolens female ...
2 The e-mail was a notice and attachment of a letter that had been mailed both I can only assume to My attorney and to myself.
Its A legit lawfirm. I checked it out.

 

[Ballroom]

P.S> Sorry about the format on the long post,
I had it saved in another program and copied and pasted it making it Very hard to read...

 

[dprince]

Irregardless of what the letter from the lawfirm states, I can't think that they have a half a leg to stand on. I can't believe any lawfirm would take it on.

 

[Ballroom]

It is my belief that almost any law firm will write a letter of intent for you for a price.. That does not mean they are going to take your case. It usually I thought Meant that they would review the case and see if it had any merit.. But then again in todays world. You can sue for anything no matter how right or wrong you are. It is great for attorneys as they get paid no matter how good or bad the lawsuit is..

 

[Ghi Reptiles]

Letter or no letter...the facts are still the same and that goes a long way in this business. What comes around goes around...

 

[dprince]

It is my belief that almost any law firm will write a letter of intent for you for a price.. That does not mean they are going to take your case. It usually I thought Meant that they would review the case and see if it had any merit.. But then again in todays world. You can sue for anything no matter how right or wrong you are. It is great for attorneys as they get paid no matter how good or bad the lawsuit is..

It's just out of control. I'm sure you're right, but it's still ridiculous that any lawfirm would bother with this with all that I've seen in this thread.

I agree with the PP, what goes around comes around. Good luck with all of this.