Bad Guy Exotic Pets (Ken Foose)

[Slim]

He stated that he was sorry for the MISTAKE of missing the status of the tail. IF he thought that the tail was in good shape, wouldn't he have asked for pictures but he clearly states " no photos are needed".

The no photos need comment was Ken trusting his customer...truns out that was a mistake.

Which in my opinion, states that Ken either clearly knew about the tail before hand but didn't metion it just to get a sale, or doesn't check his animals health and condition before shipping them.

Based on your previous post in this thread I would say that your opinion ain't wortht the square root of a fuzy rat's butt.

but ken i thought you dont sell bad snakes you claim that you sell snakes are perfect! and you dont sell garbage. you are such a lier i am glad i read this thread got caught! good for you you deserve it! hahahahahah!

You Sir, are a moron, and a criminal.

It is difficult to photograph as I had a hard time taking a picture of it too, but I think it depends on the angle.

Most things that aren't there are very difficult to photograph

hey guys i just wanted all you to read this email that ken just sent me and you tell me if he a good guy or bad guy. i told him i knew about this thread on him and he got very angry and wrote me this tell me what you guy think of ken now!
You're such an idiot. Fool, there's nothing wrong with the snake. Did you even bother to read the whole thread? This just proves that you are more of a fool and idiot then I even thought you were. But I expected you to chime in sooner or later. I would have if it was me. So, bravo for you on that one. But, hey, stupid, can't you see that the snake I sent is perfect and the customer is just trying to get her money back because she was scared of the snake. Read the whole thread again, carefully. Perhaps you will get it through your stupid ass thick skull. Or not. You are such a low life fool. Now I'm smiling. And I'm pleased to hear that I made you smile too. Believe it or not, laughing matters. I know I chuckle every time I think about your retarded self. Have fun. If you want to keep bothering me, I'll just have both of your bad guy threads pulled up to the top of the page again, and we can watch you bury your stupid ass all over again. It was funny the first time, should be wonderful the second, or third. I've already won my bad guy thread, it's about over. You can never turn yours from a bad guy to a good guy, because you are not a good guy. But I am, and prove it every day. Or you can go ahead and post on the thread about me some more, and it will just make you look stupid. In fact, I can't wait to see some of the responses to your post about me. Should be fun. You should really stop while your behind.

Funny how Ken sounds just like you in this email????

your a stupid ass i am not talk to you any more! ken a crook a lier and bad guy get over it and except that even one of your good boys can make mistakes on here and stop being so one side good nite losers!

The loser here is you, moron. And you're a bad loser at that.

Actually, the first picture shows it quite nice. You can see where it cuts off. I also forgot to mention that, the day he received the boa, he reposted it on Kingsnake for the original price and did NOT mention that the tip of his tail is missing! I guess he thinks he can get away with selling people flawed animals since he is planning not to inform the next buyer! Great business there!

Ah, no I can't. There's nothing wrong with that snakes tail. Also nothing wrong with relisting the animal. Why would Ken mention a flaw thats clearly not on the animal?

Ken Foose owner of Exotic Pets in nevada sold me a pair of childrens pythons for $120 that died within 20 hours of purchase. When I had them examined by a profesional they told me that they were malnurished and looked as if they had mites and other illness. The snakes were suppose to be 6 months old yet they were the size of hatchlings. When I contacted Ken Foose he told me he would only maby give me half of the money back so I then had the person who examined them to call him he told her that he would give me my money back. When I called him back he told me off and said I could take half of the money or nothing. I just want my the whole purchase price of the snakes refunded, that is $120

As currently posted, wouldn't this fall into the catergory of third party information? Or, at least a down right lie? Victor posted this with no credit given to the original agrieved party, if there ever was one, so as I read it, this is his complaint. But since we all know that it's not his complaint, it's either a lie, or third party. Victor, refresh my memory again on what the penalty is for posting third party garbagage? You really are ignorant.

 

[Slim]

He ships animals illegally and with improper packaging

Pretty serious charge. What proof do you have to back it up?

 

[hhmoore]

Also his mother was a hamster and his father smells of eldiberries (I don't know if I spelled that right)

I didn't know Ken was French, but that is a classic example of French taunting. This could get serious.....since Victor hasn't gone away, it is likely that Ken will taunt him a second time. (sorry, but I couldn't resist)

i have a little surprize you guys dont worry!

Is that some kind of threat, Victor?

 

[MikeCurtin]

this thread is not about me ken its about one of your boys selling people deformed snakes! so do your job and address the person in this thread ken exotic pets LV thank you

And yet you've hi-jacked it so nicely just to let everyone know what kind of ASS you are. Thanks for that!

 

[Slim]

Pretty serious charge. What proof do you have to back it up?

Sorry; Victor's illiterate posting style led me to believe that he was posting about Ken being an illegal shipper. I just realized Ken posted this about Victor, and Victor who is aparently unable to master the "Quote" function just cut and paste it into his post...in which case I totally agree. Victor has shipped snakes in an illegal manner and has admited to such.

Sorry for any confusion.

 

[reptilesplus]

if the truth hurts so be it! we made a mistake he should be held responsable for it like everybody else. you dont sell customers a snake with its tail chopped offf and the bone showing with out tell the customer first that the snake has a piece of its tail missing. i still say ken bad guy!

 

[Slim]

if the truth hurts so be it! we made a mistake he should be held responsable for it like everybody else. you dont sell customers a snake with its tail chopped offf and the bone showing with out tell the customer first that the snake has a piece of its tail missing. i still say ken bad guy!

Have you seen the pictures Ken posted? Bone sticking out? There was no bone sticking out, and that tail looked perfectly fine.

Chopped off / bone sticking out / piece of tail missing.....Victor, go look up Hyperbole in the dictionary...you might learn something.

 

[JCCS]

I do not believe that anyone has brought this point up yet. The snake in question's tail looked perfect to me. BC occidentalis have very short stubby tails compared to other subspecies. The first time I saw an adult male, I could have swore it was a female until I saw it's spurs. Their tails are very noticeably shorter than a Colombians, which I am assuming is what the OP had experience with. I saw no bone protruding and I think she is just more inexperienced than she thinks she is.

Chris Canada-Smith

 

[reptilesplus]

we i read the begiinning of this thread and the customer even said it wa missing the tip of it tail. heres what she wrote I recently purchased a male argentine boa from Exotic Pets in Las Vegas. Prior to purchase, I also inquired about his temperament and was told that he was very good and did not bite. The day I received him, Friday, February 27, I noticed that the tip of his tail was missing. I could feel the bone slightly protruding from the tip
so go to begiining and read it god! i dont know why so many people on here are protecting ken is he paying you guys to write these things on here on his behalf or something! the piont is the customer was not happy he should have
handled it differently instead of trying to cover it up!

 

[Slim]

we i read the begiinning of this thread and the customer even said it wa missing the tip of it tail. heres what she wrote I recently purchased a male argentine boa from Exotic Pets in Las Vegas. Prior to purchase, I also inquired about his temperament and was told that he was very good and did not bite. The day I received him, Friday, February 27, I noticed that the tip of his tail was missing. I could feel the bone slightly protruding from the tip
so go to begiining and read it god! i dont know why so many people on here are protecting ken is he paying you guys to write these things on here on his behalf or something! the piont is the customer was not happy he should have
handled it differently instead of trying to cover it up!

You need to direct your mongrel cur eyes to the pictures of the snake that were posted. There is nothing wrong with that snake's tail. Simply stated, she was mistaken in her evaluation of it's condition, and you are perpetuating her mistake.

A picture is worth a thousand words, and probably worth two thousand from and inexperienced keeper.

And based on the way you butcher the written word, I can't even begin to calculate an exchange rate between a picture and your words.....

 

[Uroboros]

we i read the begiinning of this thread and the customer even said it wa missing the tip of it tail. heres what she wrote I recently purchased a male argentine boa from Exotic Pets in Las Vegas. Prior to purchase, I also inquired about his temperament and was told that he was very good and did not bite. The day I received him, Friday, February 27, I noticed that the tip of his tail was missing. I could feel the bone slightly protruding from the tip
so go to begiining and read it god! i dont know why so many people on here are protecting ken is he paying you guys to write these things on here on his behalf or something! the piont is the customer was not happy he should have
handled it differently instead of trying to cover it up!

You should probably go do that, pictures were posted. Why do I get this feeling that you read the first few posts and then just hit the "Post Reply" button?

if the truth hurts so be it! we made a mistake he should be held responsable for it like everybody else. you dont sell customers a snake with its tail chopped offf and the bone showing with out tell the customer first that the snake has a piece of its tail missing. i still say ken bad guy!

Wow. "We made a mistake he should be held responsable for it" Go back and read, the tail issue was acceptable by the OP, the snake was returned because they were afraid of it.

i still say ken bad guy!

I take that like a double negative where now Ken is a really good guy.

hi this guy ken from exotic pets try to sell me a snake on kingsnake.com that was defective and did not tell me. the animals has a pieces of its tail missing and he is advertizeing it online as a animal with no defects. decieveing the consumer online. Herpguy21 saint petersburg, Florida
U.S.A.

And what is this? Is this third party information? I thought that was clearly against the rules. Or are you just fabricating things.

OP, Ken did way more for you than I'd expect someone to.

Victor, everybody else told me that you can't hold your breath underwater for more than five minutes. I told them that you sure can! They're being dumb, prove them wrong!

 

[rattyrugrats]

Wow, I'm tired of reposting facts that are just being looked over so that you guys can nitpick at irrelevant information. You can FEEL the bone in the tail. I said it wasn't a lot, but it is not smoothly rounded like snake tails should be, it cuts off pretty dramatically. He gave me only ONE option for dealing with the flaw which required a financial loss to ME when it wasn't MY fault! I shouldn't have to pay for someone else's mistake. Sorry!
Wow, you guys will do anything to defend one of your own! Go back and read the facts! If mine and Ken's roles were switched right now, then you guys would be all over me regarding bad business! But you guys like him and will, therefore, overlook his obvious bad business in this situation.
Oh, and Ken, I LOVE how you said that just because we discussed it over the phone doesn't mean it didn't happen... We NEVER talked on the phone besides when I paid! If you're lying about that, then who knows what else you could be lying about! And every decent business person knows that, even if something is said over the phone, you should send an email to confirm what was discussed and decided.
And he posted the snake the SAME day he received it and didn't mention the tail! This was BEFORE he supposeably found that the snake's tail is fine (which it's not). And can you show me the email where you said that you wouldn't refund the original shipping? Because I guess it must have gotten lost in limbo or something! And your TOS isn't posted on your website either.

Thanks,
Jessica Miller

 

[JCCS]

Again, this shows lack of experience Jessica. I have kept boas for ten years now and bred boas for five. I have kept just about every locality and subspecies around. Every boa constrictor has a pointed tail tip. I have never seen a rounded tail except in snakes where some of the tail has been removed. Their tail comes down to a conical scale on the end that is sharp enough to scrape skin, as I have found out on occasion with really "grippy" individuals.
The fact is, given those photos (and you have not disputed that they were of the animal in question) you don't know what you are talking about and are now digging a big hole for yourself by continuing to post. Be glad that Ken offered you what he did, I would not have done the same in that situation.
As for me being paid by Ken, this is hilarious. I have never spoken to, contacted, or been contacted by Ken. I have seen his posts around and he always seems to be level-headed and how he continues to do so when dealing with this level of humanity is beyond me.

Chris Canada-Smith

 

[JCCS]

I am unsure how to indent on here, neither the Tab key or the space bar worked so my apologies on my lack of paragraphs.

 

[Slim]

Wow, I'm tired of reposting facts that are just being looked over so that you guys can nitpick at irrelevant information. You can FEEL the bone in the tail. I said it wasn't a lot, but it is not smoothly rounded like snake tails should be, it cuts off pretty dramatically.

The pictures Ken posted tell a different story, and as you posted no pictures, I can only go with what I see, which is a smoothly rounded tail that doesn't appear to cut off dramatically.

Wow, you guys will do anything to defend one of your own! Go back and read the facts! If mine and Ken's roles were switched right now, then you guys would be all over me regarding bad business! But you guys like him and will, therefore, overlook his obvious bad business in this situation.

I don't know Ken from Bobby's House Cat...Never met him, never been in his store. The issue here is that you turned out to be a bad buyer who didn't like her mean snake, and can't seem to be able to chalk up the shipping expense as a lesson learned.

And every decent business person knows that, even if something is said over the phone, you should send an email to confirm what was discussed and decided.

So does every decent buyer. Please post your email confirmation of the phone discussion.

And he posted the snake the SAME day he received it and didn't mention the tail! This was BEFORE he supposeably found that the snake's tail is fine (which it's not). And can you show me the email where you said that you wouldn't refund the original shipping? Because I guess it must have gotten lost in limbo or something! And your TOS isn't posted on your website either.

The reposting of the snake for sale has already been covered, and there is nothing significant to report about the tail, so that's a non-issue.

Can you show me an email where Ken said he would refund the original shipping after you came down with a case of buyers remorse?

Jessica, the missing tail is a dead issue, the photo's clearly show you were, and continue to be wrong about the tail. Not to mention the tail isn't why you sent the snake back in the first place. Drop the tail thing, it's getting you no where. If you had pictures disputing what Ken posted as proof, or if you want to assert that the snake in Ken's photos are not the same snake you were sent, then you might have an arugment. But I have not seen either of those things from you, so, dead issue.....not that you won't bring it back up.

You sent the snake back because of it's temperment; yes, I know you say Ken told you the snake was calm, but he could have also told you it juggles basketballs and can sing Ave Maria, but common sense should tell you that might not be the case, especially given the species.

You didn't give the snake time to settle after shipping before determining that it was to nippy for you to handle, and you sent it back. Buyers Remorse.

 

[Craigh]

Wow, I'm tired of reposting facts that are just being looked over so that you guys can nitpick at irrelevant information. You can FEEL the bone in the tail. I said it wasn't a lot, but it is not smoothly rounded like snake tails should be, it cuts off pretty dramatically. He gave me only ONE option for dealing with the flaw which required a financial loss to ME when it wasn't MY fault! I shouldn't have to pay for someone else's mistake. Sorry!
Wow, you guys will do anything to defend one of your own! Go back and read the facts! If mine and Ken's roles were switched right now, then you guys would be all over me regarding bad business! But you guys like him and will, therefore, overlook his obvious bad business in this situation.
Oh, and Ken, I LOVE how you said that just because we discussed it over the phone doesn't mean it didn't happen... We NEVER talked on the phone besides when I paid! If you're lying about that, then who knows what else you could be lying about! And every decent business person knows that, even if something is said over the phone, you should send an email to confirm what was discussed and decided.
And he posted the snake the SAME day he received it and didn't mention the tail! This was BEFORE he supposeably found that the snake's tail is fine (which it's not). And can you show me the email where you said that you wouldn't refund the original shipping? Because I guess it must have gotten lost in limbo or something! And your TOS isn't posted on your website either.

Thanks,
Jessica Miller

Facts would involve pictures that disprove the ones Ken has posted.
You must of missed my post on how the BOI works so here it is again ...

The BOI was created for those involve in the transaction to post there sides and for everyone that reads it to make up there own minds. Its not that people are picking sides . Just happens in this thread more people reading through the thread are siding with the seller.

 

[Seamus Haley]

I do know Ken. Have for close to a decade now, give or take. I've been to his store, bought things from him and seen him deal with his customers and his suppliers.

I've never once seen him be dishonest in his dealings. He does have a retail store and does deal with thousands and thousands of animals a year (a good number of which he also produces for the species he chooses to breed)- given the volume that he handles the mistakes, when there are actual mistakes are very few and far between. More importantly than the rare oversight of something that left a customer less than 100% satisfied is the way he handles those issues when they do arise (including issuing a complete refund to a customer on a couple sand boas that I missexed for one of his employees while I was visiting Vegas). I have never, ever seen him take unfair advantage of a customer or a supplier; he's always made an effort to make sure that people are happy with their purchases, probably because he knows that satisfied customers are repeat customers.

And as much as he may not be immune to making the rare mistake, they are just that- rare. He may own a pet store and sell some animals online but the man is, first and foremost, a herpetologist. He knows more about reptiles and amphibians than I could ever hope to, as much as I may aspire in that direction. He knows what a healthy, normal tail looks like.

I sent him a private message the day this thread was started asking if he could shoot me some photos of the tail. Knowing what I know about his expertise (a word I do not use lightly) I wanted to see what had slipped past his observation of the animal in question. The resulting photos ended up posted in this thread.

He's too nice of a guy to say it, so I'm going to go ahead and do so as a third party observer... Jessica, you are completely full of ignorant crap. That tail is perfectly fine. Furthermore, that animal seems to behave perfectly well when it's not being stabbed with a goddamn hanger, since it's sitting in Ken's loose grip and didn't take a chunk out of him when he restrained it's tail for those close up photos. You obviously do not know reptiles... and snakes... and boas... as well as you seemed to think you did. Five animals for a couple years isn't devoid of value as a way of learning but the sheer audacity of trying to shout down the people who you're arguing with given that miniscule amount of experience is absolutely insane.

Being naive is fine. People need to start learning someplace. A line is crossed when someone who is naive decides to start throwing accusations like Jessica did in this thread though. Then it's just plain stupidity and ignorance.

 

[reptilesplus]

above post another good example of one of ken paid cronies. this is unbelievable seller makes a big mistake and everybody on here trys to make excuses for him and try to sweep it under the carpet. only in america!
in book ken is wrong and he should have satified the customers concern! no exceptions!

 

[Craigh]

above post another good example of one of ken paid cronies. this is unbelievable seller makes a big mistake and everybody on here trys to make excuses for him and try to sweep it under the carpet. only in america!
in book ken is wrong and he should have satified the customers concern! no exceptions!

Who the hell do you think you are ? Have you once satisfied any of your dissatisfied costumers. I have read through your all of your badguy threads. Where you where proven to be a horrible jobber, a bad seller and with out dought a lunatic . To go around bashing anyone is beyond me. If jessica would of proven Ken wrong on the pics that where posted that would be another thing. Her own words saying she didn't want the boa any more do to it nasty and the tail but the tail was proven not to be deformed. ( She never let him settle in after all the stress it went through). If she would of proven Ken wrong in any way most people would be on her side.

I have no clue who Ken is and I have to say after reading all of what was posted I wouldn't hesitate buy from him.

 

[reptilesplus]

Wow, I'm tired of reposting facts that are just being looked over so that you guys can nitpick at irrelevant information. You can FEEL the bone in the tail. I said it wasn't a lot, but it is not smoothly rounded like snake tails should be, it cuts off pretty dramatically. He gave me only ONE option for dealing with the flaw which required a financial loss to ME when it wasn't MY fault! I shouldn't have to pay for someone else's mistake. Sorry!
Wow, you guys will do anything to defend one of your own! Go back and read the facts! If mine and Ken's roles were switched right now, then you guys would be all over me regarding bad business! But you guys like him and will, therefore, overlook his obvious bad business in this situation.
Oh, and Ken, I LOVE how you said that just because we discussed it over the phone doesn't mean it didn't happen... We NEVER talked on the phone besides when I paid! If you're lying about that, then who knows what else you could be lying about! And every decent business person knows that, even if something is said over the phone, you should send an email to confirm what was discussed and decided.
And he posted the snake the SAME day he received it and didn't mention the tail! This was BEFORE he supposeably found that the snake's tail is fine (which it's not). And can you show me the email where you said that you wouldn't refund the original shipping? Because I guess it must have gotten lost in limbo or something! And your TOS isn't posted on your website either.

Thanks,
Jessica Miller

the above is the truth they will do! {Wow, you guys will do anything to defend one of your own! Go back and read the facts! If mine and Ken's roles were switched right now, then you guys would be all over me regarding bad business! But you guys like him and will, therefore, overlook his obvious bad business in this situation} these people are all friends and connected in some why that why you can win with these people on here they are totally one sided and on the side of their so call good guy/bad guy friend ken of exotic pets just do buy from these people. there is plenty of other people you can buy from that dont their bull and their high prices. they are no good! btw yes ken is a big lier!!!!!