Bad Guy Eyelash Exotics

[eyelashexotics]

Marvelous. So she still wants me to look like a jerk. Okay.

 

[Mystic Exotics]

Marvelous. So she still wants me to look like a jerk. Okay.

You don't get it.
Ariel's post to you, was supposed to gather sympathy for him, because he's been 'targeted', but if you read through the thread *he* started the thread, under a different name.
She called him on his 'poor me' post, by linking that thread.

 

[Fangthane]

Why didn't Bob just post the initial "20 hateful emails" in screenshots? Not even names. Just the one posted to defend me after he called me a name on my own business page. Everyone questions everything I am accused of and everyone NEEDS proof on my end but not his?

Interesting that, at one point, you chose to acknowledge the existence of the messages that you chose to maliciously solicit against him. Now, suddenly, you seem to be denying them:

...
evidently a few people I know have now admitted to messaging him rude things, which I can understand why he would have reacted rudely toward me.

Can't imagine why anyone would have trouble believing anything you say. It's not like you're flip-flopping at all.

Really? That's what you think? I had no intention of making a website at that time. I saw the names were the same and I emailed you before I talked to anyone about anything. This is ridiculous.

Well, since you're in the mood for evidence, how about proving that you did try to handle this rationally, before siccing your dogs on him. Turnabout is fair play, after all.

Thank you for that. I didn't even see it because, honestly, I don't read over most of these posts because they all say the same thing.

I appreciate you pointing that out to me.

Maybe take your own advice. I believe you've given it out on several occasions:

Can you read the whole thread before trying to comment like this?...

All your lame rationalizations are exactly what tell us that you still see this as a joke, and that you're still taking no responsibility for it. Much like the guy you quoted, Acurit1, we have no reason to think that anything you say has any basis in reality. It's pretty comical that someone like that would come to your defense, and that you'd be so quick to latch on to it. I suppose that you're missing the irony of being defended by someone, who, like yourself, relies purely on denial.

Even when your insincerity is painfully obvious to everyone - except maybe your buddy rick - you're still droning on with the same old 'poor me' song and dance. Give it a rest, and maybe this train wreck of your own creation will die down. Maybe go have some nice cheese with all that whine.

 

[David Scarboro]

Actually

Marvelous. So she still wants me to look like a jerk. Okay.

You are doing an excellent job of looking like a jerk. Lucille is only pointing it out. If you continue with the attitude and insist on getting the last word, this thread is never going to end. A proper apology would have ended it on page one. Pick your battles wisely. By continuing to apologize and then qualify it, you are only digging in deeper.

 

[Lucille]

I don't read over most of these posts because they all say the same thing.

If everyone is saying the same thing, perhaps they are right?

I do want to apologize for how snobbish and rude I appeared to be in this thread, but

There you go, apologizing and then qualifying your apology. Try just leaving out the 'but'. You've wronged some people, they deserve better.

This needs to end. Now.

Sister, you have a long way to go before you can call the shots here. If you understood a little more about human nature, you would understand that you yourself are keeping this thread going by your qualified apologies and comments about the thread.

 

[Lucille]

I have had a VERY sick baby for a VERY long time, and I don't need to be dealing with any more emotional, unnecessary crap in addition to what I already am, ESPECIALLY when it deals with reptiles.

This is a pet peeve of mine. People who use facts about themselves to garner sympathy when they have screwed up in a business transaction. The fact that they are a parent, or they are in the service, or they are in the midst of some personal crisis.

If you have had some sudden disaster, everyone would understand. A house fire. A car accident.
But if it is a long term situation that you have had time to be aware of, you have choices.
If your personal situation is such that the reptile business is taking more of a toll than you thought, sell off the critters. Or if you take joy in them, by all means, keep them. But if your reptiles are a business, and involve other people, don't do something questionable in your business dealings and all of a sudden play the mommy card when what you did comes back to bite you.

I believe that motherhood is one of the most important jobs on earth. But if you voluntarily take on the responsibilities of a business owner as well, you need to consider your customers.
And you need to do what every other vendor in the business is called upon to do: be responsible for his or her actions as they relate to customers and others involved with the business.

I send my sincerest wishes for your child's well-being. I myself have a chronically ill child.

 

[Acurit1]

Hypocrisy is the state of promoting or administering virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that one does not actually have and is also guilty of violating.[1] Hypocrisy often involves the deception of others and thus can be considered a kind of lie.[1]

 

[Fangthane]

Hypocrisy is the state of promoting or administering virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that one does not actually have and is also guilty of violating.[1] Hypocrisy often involves the deception of others and thus can be considered a kind of lie.[1]

I'm pretty sure we caught that the first time. Are you excited about having learned a new word? Maybe "Salvador Robles" taught it to you. Here's another term that you might find interesting. I suspect it's already in your vocabulary:

Sock puppet:

A sockpuppet is an online identity used for purposes of deception. The term—a reference to the manipulation of a simple hand puppet made from a sock—originally referred to a false identity assumed by a member of an internet community who spoke to, or about himself while pretending to be another person.

If a supporter like yourself was the best I could hope for, I think I'd rather just stand alone.

 

[Acurit1]

Again.. Dan Graybeal,
Since you did not get it the first time.. I don't know you.. so here it goes.

Hypocrisy is the state of promoting or administering virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that one does not actually have and is also guilty of violating.[1] Hypocrisy often involves the deception of others and thus can be considered a kind of lie.[1]

 

[aleria]

Again.. Dan Graybeal,
Since you did not get it the first time.. I don't know you.. so here it goes.

Hypocrisy is the state of promoting or administering virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that one does not actually have and is also guilty of violating.[1] Hypocrisy often involves the deception of others and thus can be considered a kind of lie.[1]

How about this, I agree with everyone's sentiments on you being shady and a liar after reading over your history. Thing is, I don't fit in your little definition of hypocrisy since I've never felt the need to lie, deceive or pretend to be someone else for any reason. I've also never felt the need to play the poor me card because I haven't done anything that required admonishment in the first place.

So how about you stop trying to make yourself the center of attention in someone else's thread and move on? If you feel like talking about yourself some more you could always go do so in your own thread again, seeing as how you did so under what, two or three different user names already? Get your fill of drama and pity elsewhere because you aren't going to get it here.

 

[Acurit1]

To Jessica Waller,
I admitted my wrong doing and wanted to share my experience. You on the, other hand, continue to attack. Now it's me. I apologized to Lynn.. Please read what I had written. If it had happen to you, you would think different. Please read this carefully:

Hypocrisy is the state of promoting or administering virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that one does not actually have and is also guilty of violating.[1] Hypocrisy often involves the deception of others and thus can be considered a kind of lie.[1]

 

[aleria]

To Jessica Waller,
I admitted my wrong doing and wanted to share my experience. You on the, other hand, continue to attack. Now it's me. I apologized to Lynn.. Please read what I had written. If it had happen to you, you would think different. Please read this carefully:

Hypocrisy is the state of promoting or administering virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that one does not actually have and is also guilty of violating.[1] Hypocrisy often involves the deception of others and thus can be considered a kind of lie.[1]

Right, and I'm sure you can point me to the post where I "attacked" someone and have "continued to attack" someone? I read everything you wrote, both here and on the other posts/accounts, and all of it keeps coming back to you referring to anyone that states the following "An apology is not an apology if you qualify it with excuses and buts", as a hypocrite. That doesn't even make sense, seriously.

 

[Acurit1]

Do I know you Jessica Waller? You are attacking me.. I have done/ said nothing to you. I did not use any name calling. I did not "bully" you. There were no "buts" to my apology to Lynn. So you oppose the things that Lynn did and yet you partake in it. Again:

Hypocrisy is the state of promoting or administering virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that one does not actually have and is also guilty of violating.[1] Hypocrisy often involves the deception of others and thus can be considered a kind of lie.[1]

 

[meowmeowkazoo]

I don't think there's any point in continuing to reply to Ariel. He's obviously enjoying the negative attention in a thread that isn't even about him.

 

[aleria]

I don't think there's any point in continuing to reply to Ariel. He's obviously enjoying the negative attention in a thread that isn't even about him.

That's pretty clear. It's obvious he didn't understand a single thing I stated when I said that this thread is not about him or his issues or apologies, it's about her. Yet he replies to everyone that posts with his quoted definition of hypocrisy as if we're talking to him with each post and attacking him.

Sorry but no, every post I made up until the one that directly quoted him, were not addressed to him, they were addressed to either the entire forum in general or to the subject of this entire thread, Lynn. And even when I did quote him it was stating that I in particular was not a hypocrite by his definition for making a post stating what is and is not an apology specifically meant for Lynn. How he can take a post directed at the subject of this thread and twist it around in his own mind to make it about him I'll never be able to understand.

If the following statement is seen as an attack or offends you, any of you, then maybe you should reevaluate yourself.

"An apology is not an apology if you qualify it with excuses(whether you believe they are explanations or elaborations they are still excuses) or buts."

 

[312Herps]

 

[Clay Davenport]

Warning: Enough with the off topic bickering. Ariel is not the topic of this thread. If you want to continue take it to PM.

 

[eyelashexotics]

Everything I say gets picked apart.
I brought my personal life into this, which someone had the nerve to criticize. I have more important things to be dealing with.

I have nothing more to say. This is all over between Bobby and I, and that was what mattered.

 

[Lucille]

I have nothing more to say.

I think most people will be relieved that you have nothing more to say.
After many posts trying to rationalize your behavior, then calling Michael Roberts and requesting that he throw himself under the bus, you finally brought in your personal life.

Not surprisingly, every time you absolve yourself people 'pick apart' the excuses you should not have made in the first place.
I think that what will matter to folks in the future reading this thread is the kind of person you have shown yourself to be. They can decide how they feel about your actions by reading this thread, no amount of direction by you will change people from coming to their own conclusions.

 

[Serenescales]

Everything I say gets picked apart.
I brought my personal life into this, which someone had the nerve to criticize.

Honestly, no one asked you to bring up your personal life, your problems, anything that did not directly related to your business.

I know you've heard it all before, but:
The problem is that you're basically saying, "I'm sorry for what I did but here's why I did it so everyone can sympathize with me" when you should be saying, "I know what I did was wrong and I am very sorry for it, is there anything I can do to you, Bobby, to make it up? I'm also sorry for reacting in such a way throughout this thread. Nothing can excuse such behavior."

The way you're replying is why no one is taking your apology, you're basically trying to explain your actions when there is no rational explanation for sending a pack of dogs after someone.

I understand you probably feel bullied and such, but imagine that this is most likely how he felt coming home to an inbox full of messages from your fans. Now that you've been in his shoes, its not nice at all is it? So, if you want to craft a good apology, just imagine what you'd want everyone here to say to you. Would you want them to apologize to you as honestly as they could or would you want an apology filled to the brim with their excuses and personal problems?

Either way, I'm sorry if my own posts hurt you or came off as attacking. I honestly hope that, with this thread, you can learn how to properly deal with a business and act in a professional manner. Insulting potential customers and having others attack someone, on your behalf, whom you have had no interaction with is never a good idea.