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Fred Albury... BUYER BEWARE!!! BAD GUY!!!

It's amazing how these defenders require detailed emails and pick at the little things
DUH
1. full name is required on this BOI -- I guess that is so hard for you to comprehend since you can't read.
2. When making an accusation. You need to post all the details. it is required for all people not just Fred's attackers.
3. FRED IS WRONG. FRED IS GUILTY. cab you read yet?

how come I do not buy from fred right now? oh gee what a great come back. Send me the money I lack and I will.

you accuse that Fred is Lying about his relation to the people in the crash. I a court of law you would be required to show proof.

Burden of proof is upon the accuser
 
This just in.................................

Attention everybody: Fred still hasn't refunded Landon's money or sent him the snakes! Therefore, Fred hasn't done the right thing. Still! This same debate took place months ago on another forum and the same praise was given to Fred for being a great guy and admitting that he was wrong in not shipping the snakes then or giving a refund. This was the issue then, and it hasn't changed now.

Ritchie Luna - what fire could possibly fuel your campaign to defend Fred Albury? Yeah we know you said that "Fred is Guilty and wrong", but Fred said that himself. Plenty of times in the last 11 months. The problem is: what comes out of Fred's mouth never seems to match his actions. You've compounded the problem by supporting what comes out of Fred's mouth, and you know the old saying "actions speak louder than words".

I know of three people who attempted to raise Fred Albury by posting on public forums in the past 6 months. Public embarassment seems to be the only way for his victims to get a response. He's not a nice guy. Step aside and stop trying to sabatoge the guy that got stiffed. Otherwise you look just as bad as Fred.

Albert Applebaum

PS I'm not Chris Kennard, although I'm very impressed that you were resourceful enough to come up with the witty revelation that we're both from PA.
 
One more thing Ritchie.................

This isn't acourt of law. A little common sense will suffice. I think that at this point, after all the drama, the burden of proof might be on Fred to show that his brother/step-brother really did die in a plane crash. After all this was one of his biggest excuses for not sending Landon the snakes. Don't you want details?

Albert Applebaum
 
The burden of proof has been satisfied by Landon. Fred's excuses(lies) have not yet been addressed. So let's recap, shall we?

In Fred's first response to Landon he states "Western Hognose eat toads when young but can be converted to mice rather easily". Cut to 8/15 where Fred then says "they eat when they want to and only eat scented food items at first. This takes time and work. An AWEFUL lot of time".

Next excuse, 2/19, Christmas bungles??? That's a good one.

Next excuse, 1/3, Fed Ex opens box, blah blah blah. That whole story is ridiculous. Read the e-mail!

Next, Fred ignores Landon's e-mails, ceases contact.

Finally a response from Fred on 2/11. They just ate, will ship next Monday.

The next e-mail on 2/11 is my favorite. Fred gets nasty to a guy who has been nothing less than patient and understanding(not realizing he's lying) and says "it's a good thing we are not closer in proximity". The birth of the plane crash excuse comes into play. That's already been addressed several times by me. Go back and read my previous post regarding that issue. He lied! Period!

2/17, a new excuse emerges. Too cold.

Cut to 4/23. Yet another excuse. "Complete upheavel in my life". Shipping to be "coordinated(good one) within two weeks.

5/18. Ho-hum, low and behold another excuse! " The male of the pair rolled on me".Oh, and bad weather again. By the way, any e-mails to and from Rick Treeny Fred???

Finally Landon's desperate attempts to contact Fred though e-mail are blatantly and COMPLETELY IGNORED to date until Landon exposed Fred, forcing him to address this issue. I can see why you guys would want to give Fred the benefit of the doubt though.

I think it's insulting when a seller takes a buyers money and spends it on something that has nothing to do with their transaction. It's disrespectful. If anyone needs more proof than what Landon has supplied to know that Fred is a fraud, than you're delusional. Say what you want, but as long as Fred refuses to step up to bat to demonstrate the truth behind his "excuses', he will remain a liar and a fraud.


P.S. Hey Ritchie, what difference does it make how many times I posted? You have about as much to do with this transaction as I do, so lose the holier than thou attitude.



Chris Kennard
 
You've compounded the problem by supporting what comes out of Fred's mouth
You are absolutely right. Fred I take it back. You are NOT guilty like you say you are.

Step aside and stop trying to sabatoge the guy that got stiffed. Otherwise you look just as bad as Fred.
I am not trying to sabotage Landon. Your hatred of Fred because he hurt your feelings have made you go blind. Landon deserves his money. Fred is guilty. And you need to post proof of all your accusations.

The birth of the plane crash excuse comes into play. That's already been addressed several times by me. Go back and read my previous post regarding that issue. He lied! Period!
So you got proof that he lied about the plane crash? Lets see it

2/17, a new excuse emerges. Too cold.
correct me if I AM WRONG. but I thought I saw somewhere that Landon agreed it was too cold.
 
Fred and I have been in contact and he is sending out my snake
tomorrow (Thursday) for delivery on Friday. I am satisfied with
the reasons he has given, he has admitted that he dropped the
ball and he is making it right. I will post as soon as she arrives and I get her situated.

I would do business with Fred again. I don't think for one minute that he took my money with no intention of sending my snake, I
do think that he was "up against a wall" and things got out of control for him. He has been through a rough time and I am not referring to this plane crash business. It is not my desire to delve into that space and I have no knowledge of it. Other things can happen, too.

One thing that I don't think will ever be disputed is that Fred has nice, clean animals. I think it would be nice if some of the peeps
that have previous experience with Fred would post in his behalf.
Everyone who is serious about breeding knows that it takes years of waiting and being selective to do it right. How hard would it be to have to start all over again? Frustrating to say the
least. I hope he doesn't have to give up everything he has worked so hard for. That would be a shame.

Ann McCabe Miles
 
Do you have proof that he didn't lie about the plane crash? Of course you don't. Neither does Fred. I challenge you to do your own investigation on that issue as it is the ONLY way you will be satisfied. Nothing anyone can say to you is good enough. So what could possibly be stopping you from looking up the facts of that disaster??? Again I gave enough information in a previous post to support my stance on this. Way more than Fred or yourself can give to support your stance that he is telling the truth. His story in no way coincides with any facts surrounding the victims of the crash. The niceguy, remourseful, atoning facade Fred is displaying will never undo the injustice he has perpetrated on the true survivors of those poor unfortunate victims.



Chris Kennard
 
So, Fred is supposed to prove that he's not lying?

Firstly, it is nearly impossible to prove a negative without being omniscient, so let's just leave that there where it lies. Secondly, Fred is the accused in this scenario, it is up to those doing the accusing to supply the actual facts of the matter (Landon did, and it was appreciated greatly). Thirdly, it is a completely moot point once Fred makes the deals good! If his customers are satisfied, they'll say so...if not, they'll say so.

Why do you two keep hounding Fred over something that happened months ago, has been hashed out on another forum, and involved neither of you in the first place???? I don't know Fred personally, and I am dissappointed that he let any reason keep him from fulfilling his responsibilities for nearly a year, but he says he was wrong and he's going to fix the problem. What more are we supposed to ask of the situation, given that NONE of us (other than Landon and Ann) were personally involved?

If Landon or Ann does not believe that he is fully compensated, and he wants to leave a permenant "BAD GUY" mark on Fred for his actions, it may very well be deserved, and I doubt Fred will say otherwise. But beyond THAT, I just cannot see what it is that you expect to accomplish from behind a keyboard? The way you chase Fred around the net, as it appears you are doing, makes you look like the electronic equivalent of Ahab chasing his personal white whale! Kind of sad, really.
 
Enough already Mr. Ken!

I posted on this board because I felt I had exhausted all avenues in trying to resolve this issue.

I posted similarly on KS.com MONTHS ago to try and locate Mr. Albury, who, unbeknownst to me was having personal issues that came before business issues. I posted there because the KS forums was where I met (and was recommended to) Fred Albury.

Mr. Ken, you are using my situation to further your apparently personal dislike for Fred Albury. I think this is wrong. If you have no BUSINESS dealings with him, then it is not your place to contribute here. As I stated to you in a private email and to the Forum itself, the flame war is ridiculous. You can turn it around and make it my fault if you want to (and I'm sure you will) but the fact remains: other than giving me some support and telling me that you thought I was wronged, your continued posts are counterproductive, superfluous and not entertaining in the least (read: WASTE OF TIME).

I deserve to have the merchandise I ordered. Mr. Albury has agreed with this and as I recently posted has once again agreed to make this right by the weekend. I think the posts need to stop on this thread until I can state what did or did not happen this week with the order. There really is nothing more to be said. I don't need a sympathy vote from anyone (although it's nice to know people care) and I certainly do not need someone posting on my coattails to push forward their personal vendetta towards Fred.

I do not think that Fred is a crook; I just think that this has gone on long enough and it is time for closure, that's all. And that's all I am working towards. This deal has been promised and then not delivered too many times, and I do know that Fred DID attempt to ship me an order but got 'caught' by FEDEX. Not my fault, but surely my concern...

I agree with the BOI members asking for proof - I would want that if I were in Fred's shoes. I was more than willing to provide what was asked for, especially in light of the fact that Fred has a lot of people who think highly of him and they were right to ask for proof from someone who just popped up on the BOI one day out of the blue. I applaud the members for sticking together and not accepting my complaints as gospel and demanding some verification.

Mr. Ken, where is YOUR proof?

Once again, STAY OUT OF MY BUSINESS UNLESS YOU HAVE SOMETHING CONSTRUCTIVE TO SAY!!!

Landon Johnson
 
Not to mention, Mr. Ken...

... that you REGULARLY lie about your identity so that some poor suckah will read your posts. So what if Fred 'lied' about the plane crash - that has NEVER come up between him and me, it does not change whether I got my order or not. I am not an NTSB investigator and have no affiliation with the FAA hence I do not profess to know that he did or didn't lie about it and I don't care. As I asked in my last post, you made the accusation, where's the proof? PUT UP OR SHUT UP MR. KEN!!!


Landon Johnson
(pissed as hell, can ya tell?)
 
Do you have proof that he didn't lie about the plane crash?
no I don't and I am not accusing him of anything.

I guess you people can't read
If you have allegations show proof.

I challenge you to do your own investigation on that issue as it is the ONLY way you will be satisfied. Nothing anyone can say to you is good enough. So what could possibly be stopping you from looking up the facts of that disaster???
you are right nothing you say is good enough. until you show proof.

Hey Chris and albert. do you know how to read?
Then read this.
Show proof

saying somethig is not proof.


hey guys I own a ferarri. and for those who don't believe me. I have proof. My proof is. I own a ferrarri.

doesn't make to much sense does it.

what fire could possibly fuel your campaign to defend Fred Albury?
Can you show me where I defended him? last time I checked all I was doing was asking a couple questions to a couple guys who refuse to answer questions. I was only asking questions to a couple guys who made alegations and have no proof to back them up. I was only asking acouple questions to a couple guys who got their feelings hurt
 
Some factoids for Ritchie......................

I don't know Fred Albury enough to hate him. I've been offended by some of his many condescending and disparaging posts in the past on another forum. I've responded to him with trash-talk that he deserved. I said my piece, and I was perfectly satisfied to leave it at that.

In the matter with Landon, however, someone got hurt as a result of Fred's actions, and I'm simply voicing my opinion, JUST LIKE YOU! Should I accuse you of hating Landon because of your obvious agenda to rehabilitate Fred's tarnished image? For your information I only know of Landon through his posts and he and I are not fans of one another. But that doesn't stop me from speaking out against an obvious fraud.

Landon is one of three people I've seen speak out on a public forum in the past months in order to raise Fred (you see there's a pattern). Public embarassment seems to be the only means of getting a response from the guy who likes to hold on to other peoples' money. That doesn't have anything to do with the question of whether or not you think I hate Fred.

Lastly, having seen you carry on in Fred's defense, despite the blatant way he jerked Landon around for 11 months as told in the emails, I have to wonder if you might actually be one of Fred's alias's.

Albert Applebaum
 
To Ann...................

I hope that Fred honors your deal, and if he does, don't think for a second that it's out of respect for you. His recent promise to you may be more than coincidental in reference to the heat this forum has provided him. Remember - all eyes are on Fred. he really doesn't have a choice now in sending both you and Landon what you both already paid for. If he does happen to come clean, please don't go overboard in praising a grown man for finally doing (under the spotlight) what he should have done in the first place. And, maybe you should think twice before buying his stories of personal hardship, hook, line and sinker.

Albert Applebaum
 
It's unfortunate that people like you give people like Fred the ammunition to walk all over you and get away with it. Trust me, I'm not here to "entertain" you and no one is riding your coat-tails,lol. Get a grip.:eek:
 
Lastly, having seen you carry on in Fred's defense, despite the blatant way he jerked Landon around for 11 months as told in the emails, I have to wonder if you might actually be one of Fred's alias's.
In Fred's defense? I am not defending him. I am asking you for proof. Which you did not see. It is there in big black bold letters. Show proof


It's unfortunate that people like you give people like Fred the ammunition to walk all over you and get away with it. Trust me, I'm not here to "entertain" you and no one is riding your coat-tails,lol. Get a grip
I ain't givin him sh!t. I am just asking for proof.

Should I accuse you of hating Landon because of your obvious agenda to rehabilitate Fred's tarnished image?
So asking you for proof is the same thing as defending someone?


You know what? This is silly. I am gonna be asking for proof until a hundred pages from now. Why don't I just go ahead and realize you have no proof because you both are just here because he hurt your fellings.

Lastly, having seen you carry on in Fred's defense, despite the blatant way he jerked Landon around for 11 months as told in the emails, I have to wonder if you might actually be one of Fred's alias's.
Partly right dude. ANYONE and everyone who has done business with me probably knows that Fredrich is my name. I do not hide that fact. In fact I posted that on Kingsnake a long long time ago. I believe that is also somewhere in the old BOI. Some people call me Fred, But most everyone I know calls me Ritchie. Ritchie is from the last part of Fredrich. Sort of like getting Bill from the name William. So yes you can say Fred is another of my aliases. OHH you got me. I am in trouble. My whole Family calls me Ritchie. All my friends call me Ritchie. Some of my "enemies" call me Ritchie. Some of them call me Bitchie. All my e-mails say Ritchie. My website says Ritchie. When women scream my name they say OH GOD. OH GOD. Some of them say OH BABY OH BABY. But I still prefer OH Ritchie. Everything I have is being slowly convereted to Ritchie. Some of my bills now say Ritchie. A couple of my accounts say Ritchie. So Ritchie is my name. Ritchie is who I am. I have not tried to cheat anyone by changing names.
 
Okay, enough is enough....

To Mr Kennard and Mr Applebaum- This site is not here for you to pursue your personal vendettas. I could care less if you don't like Fred's posts on kingsnake.com or if he pissed in your Wheaties. That is outside of the scope of the BOI.

I suggest that both of you either abide by the rules of this site, or stop posting altogether. If you need help with the latter, I will be glad to be of assistance.

One way or the other

Regards
 
Which side of the fence are you on now

Landon? 2017 "hits". Only because of your "Beware of Fred Albury" post has this transaction become EVERYONE's business. I suppose Fred's pissed at you now, and unless you can do some damage control for him, you'll never get your snakes or money back? Stick to your guns! Your ambivalence is suffocating!

Albert Applebaum

PS Fred, it wouldn't hurt to post a pic of yourself together with one of the Albury's that was in the crash. Their picture was all over the web. How about you and one of them together?
 
Wait, you're both annoyed by Fred's posts? You're not even trying to be different people anymore. Because we all know there's only one human being on Earth annoyed enough by them to come here and complain about it.
You're also not even reading Ritchie's posts. Why participate in the thread? Why don't you just start your own website called 'random blathering' so we don't have to go read it?

Erin Benner
 
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