Rozann you are always such a good example to me.
Scott please excuse what I'm going to say, as given the "evidence" in this "court of public opinion", I believe you are fine. But I want to suggest a hypothetical situation....
Let's say Scott is the bad guy. He's not well-known on this site, he isn't everyone's Buddy, he COULD be the bad guy here, and the Gluhcheff's are the Good Guys. Hypothetically speaking.
The way the Board of Inquiry works, he would come here posting a "bad guy" thread on the Gluhcheff's (please pardon me if I'm getting the spelling wrong). His hope, as the bad guy, would be to discredit the Gluhcheffs before they could come here to discredit him.
So as a Bad Guy he has wracked up the points, hasn't he?
* He sold a snake to a minor
* He sold a sick, kinked, "too cheap" snake.
* He has stated he will NOT give satisfaction unless the courts tell him to.
Those seem to be his primary faults.
The biggest problem, in this scenario where the actual truth of the matter is that Scott was the bad guy, is that when the "good guys" the Gluhcheff's came online, they would not answer questions asked of them, they had friends post in their defense who stated that credibility wasn't necessary, following TOS wasn't necessary. They stated with supposed conviction about laws that didn't exist. They brought up their relatives as any good bully does (My dad is bigger than your dad and he'll beat you up). So if they are the good guys here, they did not handle themselves in the manner necessary to convincing those people in this public forum.
Now, because Scott was the professional one, answering questions and providing the sort of proof that is "required" here, he is currently ahead on this thread. He has more people pulling for him as the good guy and the Gluhcheff's as the "bad guy".
Yes, there were 19 emails between Scott and myself. This does not include any email between him and Cam! They were done through our personall accounts and not posted on a forum for everyone to see. They actually started on4/24/04 at 11:18 pm. This is a civil matter and will de decided in a civil court and not on a forum.
So you say he's a bad guy for not sharing those emails. Even though YOU have them too, that doesn't say anything about you? Come on... if he's a bad guy for not sharing them, then so are you.
If I wanted to I could also have all of my friends stand up and defend me. They could also take everything out of context and twist it to fit their needs. So when you are well informed feel free to comment but at this point you know only the portion that Scott has chosen to share.
You are correct, since YOU refuse to share anything from those emails, we are limited to what Scott is showing us. And I don't think anyone on this thread, except perhaps one or two people, have ever met or even know who Scott IS! we aren't his friends. We're just people presented information/evidence and who are making our minds up based on that information that is given to us.
Did he share his first THREAT where he was going to take me to the board of Inquiry (I emailed him back that I didn't know what the Board of Inquiry was) NO
Actually since he did bring it here, it wasn't a THREAT, it was a statement of intent which he followed through on.
Or where he said that the I would have to take him to court because he wasn't resposible- NO. Does he share the email where he tell me that he has an attorney- NO and when I requested his address so I could forward the papers there does he send it to me -NO
It sounds as though he weighed the provided evidence... his own knowledge of the health of the snake... the spoken "alls well" from the mysterious adult receiver, and decided that without further viable proof, he would not/could not in conscience give a refund.
Does make you wonder how much you didn't see? He has no problem sharing my email to him but what about the ones he sent to me- Have you seen them? Or only small portions?
You're the only one who can say that, but you never share them, so how am I to know. I don't wonder about every little detail in the lives of the people who post here, I just take what is posted and use that to make up MY MIND.
Scott....You posted my email to you but you forgot to comment on the question that if things were reversed how would you handle it. That is a valid question.
You are right, and if he chooses to respond, I think that he would respond to this. If I received a snake, had it sent to someone who knew about snakes, and they said "all is well" to the person shipping the snake, and then it showed up dead in my hands five days later, I would either go after the money from the person who got the snake shipped to them (unlikely) or in the interest of friendship I might let it pass and take my losses. I certainly wouldn't go after the seller of the snake if it arrived and was stated to be in perfect condition.
If Cam mailed you a snake and it had a kink and died in four days would you ask for your money back? If you bought a $350.00 pair of shoes and wore then for four days and they fell apart would you take them back?
The thing is that the seller knows the animal did NOT have a kink when he mailed it. THAT is precisely why he and most sellers of live animals over the internet cannot guarantee more than a live arrival. we have NO CONTROL over what is done with the animal once it is received and declared good. If you bought a pair of $350 shoes and then whacked them apart with a hatchet, would the manufacturer refund your money? I think not.
I am willing to spit the cost of having the snake checked out and it is Cameron's fault I will not only give a a public apology but refund the money for your half of the test. But you would have to agree in writing that if the snake was sick and did not die from something Cam or Anthony did to it you refund all of Cam and Bruce's money and my share of the test. I would also expect a public apology. If you have a better solution feel free to share it!
The problem is that any way to proove that the animal had a SICKNESS is gone, once you froze it. There are two things that a necropsy could show.... the animal had a defective-from-birth neck ... in which case this could not have been the cause of death, as I believe that the animal has lived this long without any problems, eating and so forth. OR the animal had an injury that happened during shipping (negated by the positive "he's fine" upon arrival) or that happened after. So as the snake was not ILL, as the cause of death is listed as a kinked neck ... I see the only way this could have happened is in the care of the receiver.
Sasheena- my comments to Richie was the fact that he talked about the National Guard and did not have any of his facts straight. I know that earlier on the forum he was given a website that talks about the deployment and the missions. Did he read it-No. Instead he went on about something he has no knowledge about- that is ignorance.
Ritchie is IN the military. When it comes to such things I consider him to be somewhat of an expert. When that isn't enough, I turn to my husband (ooh, using relatives, bad girl!) who served in the Navy.
The word repungnant came from Scott's email- like you I just twisted it to fit my needs.
The word is REPUGNANT. You misspelled it both times. Yet you get on others' cases for not having perfect and precise grammar. I'm sure there are typos in my message here.
I was making a point and you obviously you didn't like it. I have yet to figure out how what you have to say in this matter is important.
My opinion is important to me. Since this is a public forum, I choose to share it with the people here. So far I haven't been laughed out of here or treated as though my opinion is less
or more than it is.
You are a third party who does not know the entire story. How many of the 19 emails have you seen and I don't mean quotes or pieces of them but he entire email. Do you always make an opinion without looking at the big picture?
Well let's see... I make an opinion based on the facts presented by BOTH SIDES. Since you haven't presented any facts, just been huffing and puffing and full of bluster! Scott on the other hand has presented facts and answered questions. Since YOU won't share the emails in question, I have to go with what he says.
And yes, I agree with everyone there IS nothing to really see here, it's like a merry go round with nothing new spewing forth, so I shall ENDEAVOUR to not continue to add fuel to the fire. Besides, hubby just found one of our escaped snakes ---ALIVE!!! --- in our swimming poool... yay! Gotta go take care of that before going to school to teach the next generation!
