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Has anyone dealt with Cameron or Ashley Glucheff

I am not a fan of the TV shows such as judge judy and the ilk but, I have heard a rumor that I never persued before.

Is it true that she is NOT an actual judge? She and those TV judges are not able to sit in real courtrooms and judge actual trials?

If this is true then it lends that much more credence to the theory that attention seeking is wondermon's main goal. After all, if daddy is a DA or whatever he was one would think her RESPECT for the law would preclude her from tarnishing it by using such TV justice as these shows.

Next she'll want to be on Springer. I here he's ALL about facts and the truth too.

Wes Pollock
 
Actually~ I have no idea Wes. I listen to them as I do my work around here~ they are the kind of show you can wonder in and out of a room and not really miss anything you needed to keep track of the program. (I don't have time to sit down and listen to TV, but I get lonely if it's too quiet around here) I've never paid enough attention to tell if they are "Real" judges or not~ but I think they get paid to air their dirty laundry on TV and have to agree to abide by the ruling~ I *think*

Either way~ I think it would be funny to see super mom try to explain this one on national TV
 
The national TV "stage" is a crock and shouldn't even be considered (I unfortunately have had to watch the Judge Judy show, and she has sided with the person who imo was guilty far too many times)

An actual court of law is the only stage I would even consider to take this whole debacle of a snake deal.

As far as the answer that you keep waiting for Mrs Glucheff (sp?) yes you should take the snake to a vet for a necropsy. You should also know that not taking the snake to get a vets trained opinion will ruin any chances you have for winning a case in a court of law.
 
I have told you people all along that this thread is based on complete fabrication. What real or sane person would threaten to call a Judge Judy or Judge Brown? What real or sane person would brag that their son has his own bathroom?...or that they spend 350$ on getting the dog groomed? etc. etc. etc. Come on. James Tyler
 
uhm OMG Judge Judy PAAAAAALEASE

Teacher mom wonderwoman who ever you are when you come out of that phone booth you have beside the computer,
Why on earth would you want to go on the hack judge show ... i mean come on i think you would have had more cooth then that you started out hell bent and bound to make a example of scott then you finsih up with wanting to go on what is the equal to Jerry Springer without T&A being flashed and people sleeping with their aunts uncles sisters midget brothers girlfriends brothers sister that is married to the father .Your straws have came up short now you seek the attention of such a well renowned judge as Judy or Joe!!! lol i bet your father that was this big bad DA or whatever he was /is wanted to be is in the process of disowning his daughter right now for her incoherient actions of wanting a TV judge to settle this traumatizing ordeal.


ok now ... if you have bought so many reptiles for lil Cam and you openly admit you have not a clue on them then why are you so pissed that his buddy killed his snake ?I mean if you bought him a reptile at a show and then 5 days later it died due to his friends caretaking wouldnt you blast the person you bought it from ? ohh no because you knew he bought that one , or you bought that one or well who knows who bought that one . what we do know is that the croc hunter anthony had a big hand in this snakes death and didnt want his rollmodel status tarnished by having to tell lil Cam he kileld his 450 snake he just got by not having a clue what he was doing ...


And when you take all his lil friends in that camper on vacation .. i hope they to dont over heat and die on you all while the camper is drudged all over the nation they do get AWFUL hot ya know. but still doesnt make sense why a woman who make the reptiles stay on the other end of the house cause of her admittedly not likeing them would want to sleep in a friggin RV with them smelly nasty vile critters ... they are going to really smell ya know , and i hope you map out petshops along your voyage , or are you going to take the needed food with you on this saga?

i would personally stick a boot in my sons but for not telling me what he did and for spending that kind of money ... what does he do that he has $350-$450 laying around in his room ? or if he has a bank account why didnt you know he did this ? just to many why comes in your story
 
Hey Faithful Fauna Readers, I've got to come to wondermom's defence here for just half a minute.

Since there are for sure TWO and perhaps more people ALL using this user name it may be possible that sonny boy has said SOME of the really stupid things that have been posted here. Not to take away from wondermom, she has also said some REALLY stupid things but, with sooooooo many people using the same sign in name it's sort of hard to tell them apart all the time.

They don't believe the rules apply to them unless they have made them up, or so it seems since they have been CLUED in to this not being allowed. Oh well.

Still waiting to hear that the snake is at the vets.

Wes Pollock

ps, Anthony, where oh where are you, master of snake keepers?
 
Hey Fly Ride

It seems to most of us that your friends are the "SCAMMERS". Little Cam And His Mommy have had plenty of time to post the emails or bring Anthony here to rectify this situation! What kind of light does that shine on You! Oh thats right, youn don't feel that facts are relevent! BTW Mrs Special ED you need to try and Teach your Son! the proper way to do business! And spend more time learning what he is doing Instead of making Photo OPPs. Start with Integrety 101. You have seen that No one here cares about what your father did for a living. So that threat will no longer work! This is an open forum to post proof! I know that truth is not important to you, However if you go back and read older posts you will see that the tides change when Proof is shown!
Remember that a judge will only Make a judgement based on facts! Not based on "my little Boy said this." Also guess what a judge is going to need to talk to all three corespondents. Also since your little boy is not the only owner of this animal the other owner will have to show up in court! As well as Anthony! Guess what they both better be in court! Maybe someone should file creulity to animals charges against him, Cam, and the mystery Bruce! then the A.S.P.C.A will do the best Necropsy possible. Of course they will wonder Who Cooked the Snake! Get your Daddy to explain to you that LITTLE CAM IS ONE OF TWO OWNERS! and that the adult who informed the SELLER THAT THE SNAKE IN GREAT SHAPE ! better ALSO BE READY TO TESTIFY .
 
If I was you, I would not address this situation any further with the mom or son. If they want to sue, let them. People do this kind of stuff everyday. If they decide to sue you for $350, I can tell you it will cost them a heck of alot more in legal fees and time spent. Either way, it is a shame that boa is dead.
 
It has taken me a couple of hours to read through all the posts in this thread and a couple of things have become obvious.
1. Scott a hobbyist sold a snake he no longer wanted to someone he believed to be a reptile business of some sort.
2. Cameron Kelly Gluhcheff et al misrepresented who they were.
3. The snake arrived at the address it was supposed to be sent to alive.
4. The snake was apparently healthy on arrival because it ate at the destination site.
5. The snake was left in the care of someone other than Cameron Kelly Gluhcheff the purchaser for an abnormal period of time before one of the purchasers could find the time to check on it.
6. The mother of Cameron Kelly Gluhcheff or Cameron Kelly Gluhcheff pretending to be mom is blowing hot air in an attempt to get the money back for this snake in spite of the fact she has made claims that the amount is trivial to her.
7. The receiver of the snake has never been clearly identified as anything more than someone that is supposed to know what they are doing.
8. The receiver of the snake does not have the intestinal fortitude to come here and explain what happened while the snake was in their care.
9. The Cameron Kelly Gluhcheff side has offered no evidence to support anything they have said.
10. There is some question as to the status of the snake because all of the pictures posted thus far have not shown a dead frozen snake but rather an injured snake that may or may not have regurgitated and the healthy snake before shipping.
All this makes me wonder what mom & child are not saying. Mom or Cameron Kelly Gluhcheff pretending to be mom is spouting off about crap like Judge Judy where they could only appear IF Scott would also agree to a circus trial. People cannot be forced onto those shows.
I believe that the Cameron Kelly Gluhcheff side is just blowing hot air in an attempt to get something for nothing. They would have no standing against Scott in a real court and they know it. If they really thought there was a case they would never have started spouting threats in the first place. People that really have a viable law suit make one or two offers to accept settlement then they take action.
My finding on this case is that Cameron Kelly Gluhcheff is a scammer.
gavel rap, Case Dismissed
Hmmm, I wonder if Cameron’s mom is really involved at all.
John E Dove
 
Cameron and Ashley,
You both really should have your own log in name. It is difficult to tell which one is talking at times.
I believe that is a rule of the BOI also.
 
We know who posted the last one, unless of course it was his partner.
 
Hmmmmm....

I think the problem here is this:


Mrs. Special Ed Teacher is over her head being a single parent while Mr. Special Ed Teacher is away. My dad went to Korea for 10 months when I was younger, and it was difficult on my mom too(not the Korean War, just to a base in Korea). I think, from what I have read, the "child" just needs a good spanking from Mr. Special Ed Teacher, and a very good talking too. I really think the mom needs to get money from either the person that the snake was shipped to, or drop it. If you are so well off financially, making over $350 a day, I would say money well spent for a good lesson learned. If you were smart, you would just have asked Scott for a "wholesale" price on a baby when he has some more available.

Dave
 
Login

The reason we have been using the same login is that it says she does not have permission to acces this page on hers, but she DOES have one.
 
Cameron,

Since you are on line watching this thread, maybe you could give us an idea about why Anthony has not come on here and responded about all of this since he is the pivotal person in this situation. He has to know this is going on.
 
Wow, what a thread.

Hey all,

I've just read this thread through from start to finish. This is what I see:


An animal (the boa in question) was shipped by request of a buyer to a third party. Once that request was made, responsibility for the welfare of the animal was transferred from the seller to the third party.

The third party indicated the animal was received in good order, further absolving the seller.

The purchaser did not arrange for a herp vet to see the animal upon arrival at the shipping address.

Further claims indicate that after verifying that the animal arrived in good order, the third party successfully fed the animal, despite the volumes of literature that contraindicate feeding a reptile that has undergone stress due to shipping or being placed in an unfamiliar environment.

Another claim indicates that the third party observed a "kink" or abnormal presentation in the animal. The statements of the buyer do not indicate that they sought medical assistance from a herp vet for the condition. If the buyer was not informed of the sudden change in the animal's health status, preventing timely examination and/or treatment, the onus is still upon the third party and not the seller.

Warranty was not discussed until after the fact.

And finally, caveat emptor.


As it stands, the buyer and the third party did not take the initiative to ensure the health and well being of the animal. It is one thing to purchase an animal from the humane society, with all its shots and current medical info. It is another altogehter to enter into the purchase of a living creature, from someone whom you have no previous dealings with, and not take measures to ensure the health of the animal, and the validity of the transaction.

The seller entered into a "good faith" transaction, as the medium on which the sale was initiated (ReptiBid) requires its participants to acknowldge they are in the age of majority. The argument presented by the buyers mother is that the buyer is a minor and therefore not responsible for their actions. That leaves the mother in the dilemma of explaining why a minor, whom she believes is not responsible for their actions, is left unsupervised while accessing the Internet.

The seller has honored the transaction, as both sides have defined it. The buyer knowingly violated ReptiBid policy in order to make the purchase, and did not take the proper measures to ensure that the animal purchased was in the condition the seller claimed.

That's tough for the buyer, but that's life. As above, caveat emptor - "let the buyer beware"
 
Hey Cammy

you can tell mommy that when shes on your computer that she can use that cool little feature called LOGIN since she has one , this would be easy to do and not take but a few seconds for her to type in her username ... and let me guess she will have just had registered when you do , i mean she does ?
 
The reason we have been using the same login is that it says she does not have permission to acces this page on hers, but she DOES have one.
If she is using a work computer, it may block access to certain websites. However, she can log off your account on your computer and log in as herself. Regardless, you could each take the time to sign your posts to avoid any additional confusion.

So far, we've heard the following:

Cameron is 15 years old and
cannot legally enter a contract to make purchases of this sort. He purchased
this snake without my permission or knowledge. I expect you to return his
money.
Pet store and reputable dealers give a 7 day warranty on snakes and other animals ( I can prove this in court).
When you talk to your attorney make sure that he verifies that the Law in California and in most other states that there is a seven day guarantee of life on all purchased animals. This will hold up in court and I guess I will see you this summer in court.
You
do know that I have looked into it and you mailed him illegally.
AND, this is not about purchasing without consent or anything like that, this is about a DEAD SNAKE. I don't know why it went from, "the snake died" to "shame on you for buying it". The simple fact of the matter is that we purchased a snake and it died.
I wonder which direction the blame will take today?
 
something caught my eye a few pages back...

While I can appreciate that the Gluhcheff's are "livin' large" what I really wonder about is the comment that mom made about not going to Cameron's portion of the house. Does she really not check his room? What did Camerom think he was going to do with a large boa (cause they tend to get big, I got 2 in a 6' x 2' x 2' cage that couldn't be hidden in any house if someone came looking!) This is a concern...what if Cameron bought a venomous snake & had it in his room? (and of course, mom knew nothing of this secret purchase) If one of Cameron's friends came over & got a nasty bite.......Mom would probably be in jail & would certainly be looking at a MAJOR civil suit. The judge would not buy the excuse "I didn't know", because you should have! I don't think you want to lose your big house or other belongings. Homeowner's insurance would cover a bunch but not all of it. Mom, you need to make it your business to know what the "children" are up to! Has Cameron made other "purchases" that you may be unaware of? It is surely a shame that a snake had to die because of all of this. Get the necropsy!
 
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