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Has anyone dealt with Cameron or Ashley Glucheff

Dee...

You can not remove a snake from a shipping container without holding it. I am sorry, thats the way it is.
You also cant put it in a tank without holding it.
By holding I mean either with your hands, or tools designed for it.
If that snake wasnt held for two days, does that mean it was in the shipping box for two days?
 
Re: Time line

maddog said:
Cameron purchased snake.
Snake shipped to Anthony.
After 2 days and not handling the snake, when Anthony did handle him noticed the kinks.
Snake died Saturday, Cameron received the snake shortly after.
This is when Mrs. Gluhcheff contacted Scott.

Please take the time to go back through and read ALL posts before posting!

Oh, as to my creditablity, why don't we check ip address's today?
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Where is the time on this timeline, since you chosen to insult me.

I asked when this snake was purchased specifically because I knew the answer was not 4/2/04 when the picture of the snake was taken.
 
teacher-great!!

I too am a teacher of 14 years and the first thing you learn is that kids lie!!
Her son, IMOP, is the one who should be held responsible for whatesver happened to the snake after it's arrival. Let him suck up the $350.00 loss and maybe he won't be so quick try to put one over on mom again.
I have 7 kids(9-24) and THEY are held responsible for their actions and have been since an early age. NO WAY would I be theatening to sue over this. Oh boy, my son has a hangnail, I'll sue the store that sold me the nail clipper !!!! I think Judging Amy would have fun w/this mom!!
Rhoda Allen
 
handling

I did not state that he did not touch the snake, in handling I mean taking it out to look at, allow it to wrap around arm. Handling the snake as you need to so it becomes use to you. Also you should not handle a snake right away after being shipped. It needs to adjust, some down time. So Anthony did not handle the snake after recieving it, giving it a few days, then noticing it.

Sorry I do not have all the dates. I was not doing a dated timeline but from what has been written. As for the picture being taken on 4-2-04, who is to say Anthony did not have the date on his camera correct? I can not explain why that is the date on the picture.
 
Where is Anthony? It sounds to me like he is the only one who can answer these questions yet he is the only one involved that has not posted.
 
Plain and simple, Anthony could not say that the snake was alive and doing great if he had not looked at it. You don't just say everything is fine, and expect to come back later and say that the condition was pre existing.
If it wasn't fine, he shouldn't have said it was.
If it was fine, what happened to it that caused this in those two days?
 
mad dog!

What the heck are you talking about! anyone who has had animals shipped to them and waits two days to inspect? seems odd huh? Also as soon as the post office finds out that Mrs. Special Ed. has filed a false report she may need that Daddy Of Hers!
 
show

The only show that this person could have attended would have been the WestCoast show in Victor Ville at the San Bernadino Fair grounds 4/24 and 4/25. Since the registured name is in Apple Valley that show would be right around the corner from them.
 
Re: handling

maddog said:
Sorry I do not have all the dates. I was not doing a dated timeline but from what has been written. As for the picture being taken on 4-2-04, who is to say Anthony did not have the date on his camera correct? I can not explain why that is the date on the picture.
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Now this one is interesting.. the picture of the dead snake

It was taken 4/20/04 at 6:51pm

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date of dead snake

Now this I can personally say is the wrong date and will check/correct the camera. I was there Saturday when Cameron brought the dead snake home and watched him take the pictures. So that picture I can DEFINITLY say was taken on 4-24-04, the time is correct.

Why must we be so degrading here? Mrs Gluhcheff does a job that MATTERs with children that are mentally challanged. Lets look at the facts, not judge the people who are involved!
 
Davie I never suggested to feed the animal I simply informed that I have a younger female that had a slight kink in her lower body from birth but after some time and the snake put some weight on it decipated and is unnoticable. I also informed to simply keep and eye on the snake for abnormal health behavior.

Now as to the whole handling issue everyone is dweling on I beleive anthony picked the snake out of its shipping box and being that it was not his and wanting to take good care of his friends snake placed it in its new temp home for a short while to relax and settle in. Like I said before he is a seasoned care giver and a good member to many forums and knows plain and well not to handle after shipment. Now maybe after two days and looking in at it through its glass noticed the kink.

Now the other teacher Mrs toadellen on this site that has numerous children claiming they lie you need to also remember this snake was never given to cam alive. He received it dead from the adult that it was shipped too. So please refrain from your immature comments about his age because like I said before the death of this animal has nothing to do with the purchasers age.

Personally Scooter J I believe you are a SCAMMER! Think about it everyone. To sell a Hypo db het ghost for only 350$ out of a personal collection there is something fishy. I believe that you knew about the kink and that is why you wanted to sell it so fast at such a low attractive price. And for this I will be sure to inform anyone I chat with inquiring about you how I feel.
To avoid the negetive impact this could have on you deem you are labled as a scammer you can post maybe an arial pic of the snake, im sure you took pix of it before you sent it to prove its overall health to protect you from accusations like this.
 
facts we are trying to sort the facts

Fact#1 the snake arived ALIVE AND HEALTHY
Fact#2 Instead of contacting the seller about the lump/ dent
Your friends called someone else!
Fact#3 NO NECROPSY HAS BEEN DONE
Fact#4 your friends brought up that they had a retired DA in
the family, and also stated what they do for a living!
Fact#5 You and your friends continue to quote laws that
they are making up as they go along
Fact#6 They only want to post when they feel that they can
hurt someone
Fact#7 this educater does not teach integrity or she would not have tried to work this matter out with out mentioning minors and contract!
Fact#8It is illeagle to file a false report with the federal government!

Come on and list some facts for us Beside the one that state that the snake is dead OR the person who recieved the snake should show his face and post!!
 
Once again ill say it.
Buddy your facts are completely irrelivant when it comes to the health of the animal that is in question

Fact#4 your friends brought up that they had a retired DA in
the family, and also stated what they do for a living!
Fact#5 You and your friends continue to quote laws that
they are making up as they go along
Fact#6 They only want to post when they feel that they can
hurt someone
Fact#7 this educater does not teach integrity or she would not have tried to work this matter out with out mentioning minors and contract!
Fact#8It is illeagle to file a false report with the federal government!


that has nothing to do with a scammer selling someone a unhealthy animal.

And I never stated they were my friends just aquaintances from other forums.

Please before you instigate a fight further that does not include you look at the facts that actually matter in this situation. There is no need for everyones cheap shots and rude remarks. This is a site for inquiry and people needing help in moderation. And also if you want to prentend your the jury please look at both sides!

Hypo het ghost 450$ hmmmmmmmmmmm That is sometimes cheaper than the price of a normal hypo. This has scammer written all over it and you all are buying it by listening to the irrelivant age issue. And yes the puchaser should have got a necropsy performed however they may not have been aware being a new herper to what methods you have to take when dealing with a SCAMMER!!!!!!!
 
HUH???

I said ALL children lie at some time. Yes, even mine have lied to me on occasion. Take away my mother of the year award.
You ask a class of kids where their homework is and you will get a boatload of lies starting in primary school. The ones I like best usually start w/"my mom..." and my response is"your mom is not in my classroom and not responsible for your actions" I teach 1st grade and yes I expect then to be responsible because obviously their parents don't.
I never made any comment on the age of Cam. I don't care exactly how old he is. But obviously old enough.
Rhoda Allen
 
And as for the other "facts"

Fact#1 the snake arived ALIVE AND HEALTHY
Fact#2 Instead of contacting the seller about the lump/ dent
Your friends called someone else!
Fact#3 NO NECROPSY HAS BEEN DONE

Like I mentioned before it was sent to another person other than the purchaser. Who may not have wanted to handle someone elses animal in fear they may harm it and be responcible. And about the kink it is not that persons place to contact the seller and have you ever thought maybe cam the purchaser wanted to see the aminal in person to see it for himself before contacting the seller. And like I said about the necropsy. Not everyone knows what exactly to do when ealing with SCAMMERS and the common instinct is to freeze tha animal.

So Mr Strayvoltage, your facts are irrelivant to this issue and please try to find another angle to make someone look like tha bad guy when in fact they are someone that was simply taken advantage of by a SCAMMER that wanted to unload a defective unhealthy animal!
 
Thank you Jeff. I think you are the first person to confirm that Mr. Marquez is infact an adult, and that the snake was never sent to a minor.
As far as Scott being a scammer, I talk to Scott online nightly. He expressed an interest in some of my pastel boas, and we just kinda got to chatting and have been friends since. He talked to both myself and Randy about selling that dh ghost before he advertised it anywhere.The price of $450 (not 350) is what he paid for the snake. He was just trying to break even, as he no longer needed a DH Ghost having recently recieved One of Linda Hedgepeths (you may have seen his posts on the boa think tank). He no longer needed the DH ghost, so he sold it for what he paid for it. No scam at all.
 
Why must you dwell on that toadellen, Ok think about it. This animal was shipped to an ADULT seasoned caregiver who cared for it the whole time till it was deceased. At no time did cam come in contact with the animal while it was alive. So the problem that is standing which is that there is a dead animal and someone is responcible for it.

The age I will say again is not an issue and should not be refered to when it comes to the animals health!
 
Im sorry Davie I just feel something fishy about the db het for 450. I understand that is what he may have paid for it but what if he got burnt on it and just wanted to unload it.


I think the only way for this guy to clear the scammer stamp is if he posts a above picture of this snake proving no previous kink.
 
I was responding to mad dog

And I don"t agree that the price matters this past fall I was sold 3 two year old triple het striped corns for $100 because they did not fit into someones breeding program! also I ahve given away albino and het burmese that I did not need! I also don't think I would give a refund to anyone that had an animal shipped to a third party! I do think that the third party needs to come on here and state his side. It is really easy to threaten lawsuits. This whole deal Was cooked up by a proven lier Cameron! (reptibid TOS) a judge will love looking at these transcripts Just think of all the work we arer saving them! BTW where is that necropsy!
 
Cam made the arrangements to buy this snake and have it delivered to a different address than his own. He falsely represented himself, now mom is crying foul. It makes me wonder if there is a pattern here?
Rhoda Allen
 
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