Has anyone dealt with Cameron or Ashley Glucheff

[ksshane]

I really dont like posting in these argumentative type posts, but I just wanted to point out that I purchased a yearling DH Ghost last year for 550.00 from Jimmy Horton.

So 450.00 really isnt that low.

Not that this should matter at all.

 

[strayvoltage]

Scott

I Don't see you comming across as a bad guy! I feel that you have acted a a resonable adult! I wish you nothing but the best of luck!

I truly belive that someone or something killed there snake but that someone or something is not you! It seems to me that when a bad guy posts, threatening law suit or leagle actions, and claiming high powered family members it is a last resort of a desperate man, or women.

All they would have to do is provide a necropsy that proved what killed the snake! they can usually tell how long a problem would have had to exist to cause death!

Good luck to you! I hope that you never have to deal with these type of people again! Hopefully we will all remember these names and know who we can saftley deal with! I like you do no usually sell animals I generally trade with friends! or sell one or two by word of mouth! It is a shame that this has happened to you, as you seem to be an honest person (by your Posts) you offered to let a court handle this.

 

[Randy T.]

I wanted to hop on here and apologize for the Mrs Special Ed comment, it was rude and I should have taken the time to reread the spelling of the last name and posted that way instead.

I also wanted to add if it is a physical trauma that caused the death to this animal then a vet can easily point this out. I again say that a vet visit is in order on the poor animal, and if the vet can show that the animal died from a pre existing condition then I will whole heartedly stand behind the request that Scott return the money to the purchaser. But I have a feeling that a vet visit will never be done, as I feel the accusing party knows more about the cause of death then they are leading onto know.

(also why wasn't the kink mentioned right from the beginning? It obviously was noticed and pointed out well before death.)

Later

 

[HerpVenue]

The matter of the age is simply the sellers attempt to not refund the money and is a coward copout.

HUH??? are you lost? If it was just about age he should refund. But it is not about age. It was the buyer who was making it about age. Perhaps a little reading would be nice.

Please do not quote me, respond in your own words and do not twist mine to work in your favor as you are notorious for.

The quotes up there shows EXACTLY what I am responding to. What you are reading right now are my own words. I did not copy and paste them from somewhere else.

And please feel free to try to now bash me because I and many others dont care for this site

yeah I make a habit of going to sites I do not care for.

what are you gonna do sit in from of your computer and discuss what you think about other people problems hahahahhaa have fun debating things having nothing to do to you.

Anyone else see the irony in that statement. Specially after he himself "debated"

So come on Mrs Special Ed.. Get him to the vet..

See that is the little unnessisary comments im talking about.
Why not keep it clean?
..

I forget her name annnd only know she teaches special ed. So I call her that. I myself am in the military.....I do not see you on your white horse "rescuing" me from people who poke fun at my chosen profesion. But that is okay.

In order for a boa to die in 5 days there must have been an illness prior to shipping or injury durring.

I agree with you 100%.
But you forget to mention that the new owner could have done something teribly wrong.
You also forgot to mention that a very sick and injured boa such as you described would not be eating.

Like I said before he is a seasoned care giver and a good member to many forums

This seasoned caregiver wrote to you asking what to do. This seasoned caregiver also responded to the seller telling him everything was a okay

what are you gonna do sit in from of your computer and discuss what you think about other people problems hahahahhaa have fun debating things having nothing to do to you.

By the way after you posted the above quote.....you replied nine (9) more times


To Mrs. Special Ed.....
I guess i will call you Mrs Teacher instead. Flyride might start crying

evermind I went back and dug up the name.............Mrs Gluhcheff

mad dog. you claim you are an adult.
Cameron's partner is also an adult.
The boa was sent to an adult.
So was the kid sold a boa without adult supervision? I think not.

Tell Mrs Gluhcheff ....that she is reaching for straws. Everytime her arguement gets shut down she comes up with a new one.

The boa is dead.
you sold to a minor.
California has warranty
EVERYONE at the show has a WARRANTY
Most states require a WARRANTY on pets.
You mailed it.
I knew about the boa, family friend knew aobut the boa, the partner knew about the boa. Anthony knew aobut the boa. EVERYONE here is an adult except for cameron. And you sold to him without adult supervision.


Someone stop the darn kids from buying candy at the store.
According to Mrs Teacher it is a crime.

 

[HerpVenue]

By the way you kept saying age should not matter.
But you keep harping on the price.....he sold to cheap therefore he is a scammer.

Come on.

I had a hypo that had a striped tail I was selling for $1000
His hypo sister also had a striped tail I was selling for $750
their normal colored sibling had a striped tail I was selling for $200.
People kept telling me not to sell....They said if it was just the hypos that were striped.....then okay because hypos tend to stripe. But because of the fact that the normal sibling are also striped.....that I probably have some kind of genetics thing going on.

The total for all three would have been $1950.
Some guy bought all three shipped for $1000
That is half price. I guess that I too am a scammer.
All scammers ell their stuff half price.

 

[maddog]

Question for Scott,
Would you like the snake to have an necropsy? Cameron has frozen it. I don't think the mother is going to be out any more money or have her son be out any more money to find out that the snake was sick when you sent it. So depending on why the snake died, will you be willing to pay this back and therefor resolve this issue?

And also I am an army vet & last time I checked the National Guard doesn't send units overseas.

Ro Hill, you stated this, why not look into it more before stating something like this. The 81st Brigade from Washington State was activated in November and delopyed to Iraq in March. It has been the first time since WWII that this has happened. Here is a site that may interest you:
http://81brigade.washingtonarmyguard.com/
The 1/185th unit is attached to this brigade that is located in San Bernardino, CA.

 

[hill4803]

Gee since WWII huh?

I always appreciated it when the national guard filled the sand bags for flooding...Hats off. Answer the rest of the questions!

Ro Hill

 

[Wilomn]

Question for Scott,
Would you like the snake to have an necropsy? Cameron has frozen it. I don't think the mother is going to be out any more money or have her son be out any more money to find out that the snake was sick when you sent it. So depending on why the snake died, will you be willing to pay this back and therefor resolve this issue?

Dee unless you are in possesion of knowledge that the rest of us are not I cannot see how you KNOW this snake was sick when sent.

Most snakes DO NOT eat when they are sick.

Most snakes are not REPORTED AS RECIEVED HEALTHY when they are not.

Most snakes that have trauma like the shown by this snake have suffered it at the hands of the people keeping it, not the guy who had it a week before. Especially after the snake was OKed by the recipiant and sucessfully fed.

Do you know something we don't?

The mother or her son SHOULD not only have a necropsy done but should have NO problem paying for it.

Should it turn out that the snake was sick when it arrived then perhaps the seller should pay them for the necropsy as well as definately refunding the purchase price of the snake.

To say she won't get the necropsy done because she KNOWS it was sent sick is rediculous.

Get the necropsy done and end the debate!!!

Wes Pollock

 

[ms_terese]

My guess is that the buyers are off this thread for good......either because the retired Ass't DA (or whomever Cam's grandfather is, didn't want to go back and check) told them to get off of it, or because they got backed into a corner.

However, that doesn't mean their mouthpiece won't still post.

Scott, I'd fall silent as well if I were you. If I've learned one thing in all my years, it's that threats are only warnings.....and Cam's mom was kind enough to warn you ALOT about being sued. You see, if I was going to sue someone, I wouldn't keep telling them how I'm going to sue them......or how I'm going to turn them in for federal crimes.....and how they can be fined $100,000. I would just file my paperwork without giving them the WARNINGS.

That's why the number of people who actually sue versus the number of people who THREATEN to sue is statistically insignificant. They're really just trying to intimidate people.

Teach your children well....

 

[DaveyFig]

"I don't think the mother is going to be out any more money or have her son be out any more money to find out that the snake was sick when you sent it. So depending on why the snake died, will you be willing to pay this back and therefor resolve this issue?
"

The mother wouldn't be out any money at all if her claim is legit. She could simply tack that on to the compensation she recieves in court right?lol
Of course, if she doesn't win, thats just that much more out of pocket. She plans to go to the full extent,wont take responsibility and wont back down, so I say charge it up. Take that snake to the best Vet there is, the most expensive out there, and sit back and wait for the certain victory in court.

 

[CGluhcheff]

To Scott

Scott, I would still like to see the email where I stated, "my business" or " our business" or even "my business partner". Saying partner does not refer to a business partner, now I know you are all old people and all, but have you never heard a young person say "howdy partner" or "hey partner" or anything of the sort???

 

[ms_terese]

I know you are all old people

That's cute.

but have you never heard a young person say "howdy partner" or "hey partner" or anything of the sort???

Of course we have.

I know you're a child and all, but do you not understand that making that statement, then having 2 people send payment for one animal makes them partners in the purchase?

 

[Scooter J]

Pictures

I sent Cameron and Bruce several pictures for them to review in addition to the one posted on reptibid. These pictures were taken about a week or so before the snake shipped out. They had no questions from me at that time, the snake was healthy and eating at least two weeks prior to eating, and if it had severe neck trauma, why didn't it show up on those pictures? The trauma or whatever killed it happened after Anthony told me it was perfectly healthy and doing great. Something happened to that snake after delivery, I don't know what, and I can't prove it, but it is a shame that a healthy, beautiful boa is now dead. As far as paying for the vet bill to determine cause of death, no I wont' pay for it, why?, Well, what if the Vet says the snake died of neck trauma, well when did it happen. What if he says the snake baked or was frozen or whatever, when did all of this stuff happen? I sent a healthy boa and it arrived in good condition, I recieved a good report on its condition. I feel at this point unless they can prove that it had some killer disease prior to this shipment, then I will not pay for the bill. I have acted in a responsible manner, followed their instructions to the letter, and 4-5 days after recieving the boa, it dies, and now you want your money back. HOw do I know what happened from Tuesday through Saturday. This is just too much. Again, I will let the court decide and if they say I am wrong then I will live with it and follow the letter of the law. But I am not wrong and this is just some upset Mother's vendetta to pin this on me. She is trying to throw anything she can at me, and I haven't done anything wrong, except sell a snake to some dishonest people and I will never again sell anything to anyone without references. By the way, if it even matters to anyone, I did request any information on this coast to coast reptiles on this BOI, but no information came back. Therefore, I made, I now know, a wrongful assumption.

Thank You,

Scott J. Cotey

 

[Scooter J]

Why Would I think Its a Business

Well, geez Cameron, let me think, you have an email named Coast to Coast reptiles, you have a partner in Maryland named Bruce and you are on the other coast in California, and you both paid for part of the boa. I don't know why I would think you were a business.

Scott J. Cotey

 

[CGluhcheff]

assumptions

You know Scott, I like the way you assume, but when you assume, you make an ass out of you and you make an ass out of me. Also, the pictures did not have angles to where you could see the kink. Otherwise, I would have noticed it. And, since I am a child I could not fully pay $450 so I had to borrow the rest of the money from a partner of mine. My other partners thought the snake looked really cool and that it would be worth the $450. I t seems easier for him to send the money directly to Scott instead of it being mailed twice, correct? What do you think of this, partner?

 

[MarcAntony]

Add to database:

Persons to not EVER deal with (buyer or seller)

Jeff Johnson of Tampa
Dee Lawson (if that person really exists)
Cameron Kelly Gluhcheff (already a proven liar)(reptibid age TOS, remember?)
Mrs. Gluhcheff (a disgrace to the teaching community, and enabler for a disfunctional child)

The list could get longer...

 

[CGluhcheff]

Thats funny, you say it like any of us would WANT to buy an animal from you or sell you an animal.

 

[DaveyFig]

Still holding out that "partners" last name and age huh partner?

 

[hill4803]

question for cameron...

I am asking in all seriousness...What grade are you in at school? You keep saying you are a child but I checked on some stuff & some really interesting information has come to light! I need to check a date but I think someone on here might be able to do that for me.

Ro Hill

 

[GinoInDaBronx]

dee and ashley

so, dee, you were staying with cameron and his mom?

ashley's husband, is stationed in iraq, right?

you conveniently dont list your age in your profile. but,
i am guessing that you are an adult, right?

do you often stay with married women when their
hubby's are out defending the country?

i think that i know now why little cameron wasn't
supervized while at the computer...

read into that what you want...

sincerely,

gino 'in da bronx' beniquez