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Heavy parasite load found in ball python from Ed Clark

All the fighting... pointless.

The info presented here that is of use has nothing to do with "he said or she said" ... the names don't matter.

Protecting our precious pets, better testing procedures- this is something we can all evaluate. If one scrap of information here enables this, that is all that is to be gained.

Remove emotion, look for facts & ability to improve. There is no blame... there are only contributing facts on both sides.
 
All the fighting... pointless.

The info presented here that is of use has nothing to do with "he said or she said" ... the names don't matter.

Protecting our precious pets, better testing procedures- this is something we can all evaluate. If one scrap of information here enables this, that is all that is to be gained.

Remove emotion, look for facts & ability to improve. There is no blame... there are only contributing factors on both sides.
 
XDeus said:
No, that won't prove anything. Her other snakes could have just as easily been infected by Ed's snakes.
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It actually depends on what they test positive for. Any parasite with a direct life cycle can be transmitted to the rest of the collection, even by YOU. But the ones who require an intermediate host, REQUIRE that certain set of circumstances to advance to the next stage of life.
 
How many times do people buy snakes then cry later about parasites?
I have never bought a snake from any herp dealer that had any type of warranty only live arrival.
I was sold snakes that died all at once more than once!
you call let them know they might take care of it they might not.
But its absurd to think ed is at any fault here ten months later his live arrival guarantee had run out as far as I figure a week later.
so is he bound for the life of the snake to keep it healthy and to train the buyer how to take care of their snakes
which happened here?
boi worthy no!
I don't care who i get the snake from or if they tell me its clean as they come.
same procedures Fecal,quarantine, for at least six months.
i might treat them any way just in case i missed something on the slide.
If you all remember when it happened to me a bit different but same
out come it was my fault for not being carefull enough.


So ED if you give these 10 month plus extended warranty
i will be buying a snake from you soon! :rofl:

so to say all this thread was done for the animals or the other people that bought from him is utter rubbish!
this is another example of the BOI being used for other dark reason.
 
bud mierkey said:
How many times do people buy snakes then cry later about parasites?
I have never bought a snake from any herp dealer that had any type of warranty only live arrival.
I was sold snakes that died all at once more than once!
you call let them know they might take care of it they might not.
But its absurd to think ed is at any fault here ten months later his live arrival guarantee had run out as far as I figure a week later.
so is he bound for the life of the snake to keep it healthy and to train the buyer how to take care of their snakes
which happened here?
boi worthy no!
I don't care who i get the snake from or if they tell me its clean as they come.
same procedures Fecal,quarantine, for at least six months.
i might treat them any way just in case i missed something on the slide.
If you all remember when it happened to me a bit different but same
out come it was my fault for not being carefull enough.


So ED if you give these 10 month plus extended warranty
i will be buying a snake from you soon! :rofl:
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Show me any of the posts here where Emily asked for ANYTHING from Ed other than information? What "warranty" did Emily try to redeem? Emily wanted information on these "supposed" CBB snakes' history. Ed told her he'd check back and his only response here was to point fingers back at Emily, but did not offer ANY information. His responses on other forums illustrate that he had no intention of offering Emily any further information. Shame on him!

I'm hopeful that this will prompt others who have purchased animals from ANYONE to get their animals tested if they haven't already.

No one will ever be able to say conclusively, but if all of Emily's collection test negative, and the only ones that test positive are ones she acquired from Ed, well - that's up for the viewers of this thread to interpret.

Ed certainly isn't denying any culpability here in this thread. In fact, his silence is very telling.

It certainly leaves one wondering if Ed did in fact send Emily CBB animals, or mis-represented CH animals as CBB. No one can prove it, but one can wonder. Again - Ed's not here disputing that's what he did.

Again, Emily has not asked Ed for ANY compensation, only information about these particular snakes. Ed can't even provide that. I don't know about you, but that's not the type of person I want to ever buy from, one that will just run and hide when you ask questions. Hide and hope it goes away. Typical.
 
Really people, does anyone think rehashing this over and over is helping anyone? Here is the issue as I see it:

1. Emily bought snakes that were SUPPOSED to be CBB.
2. They have heavy parasite loads confirmed by a vet showing they were probably captive born not CBB as Emily was told.
3. Emily contacted Ed to inform him, Ed said tough luck.
4. Emily posted here to let others know he is misrepresenting his CBB snakes so the spread of parasites is stopped as quickly as possible.
5. Ed has not responded to any of this.

END OF STORY.
 
norsmis said:
Really people, does anyone think rehashing this over and over is helping anyone? Here is the issue as I see it:

1. Emily bought snakes that were SUPPOSED to be CBB.
2. They have heavy parasite loads confirmed by a vet showing they were probably captive born not CBB as Emily was told.
3. Emily contacted Ed to inform him, Ed said tough luck.
4. Emily posted here to let others know he is misrepresenting his CBB snakes so the spread of parasites is stopped as quickly as possible.
5. Ed has not responded to any of this.

END OF STORY.
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Actually he has responded, just not here. This is what he has to say at http://fatfrogs.7.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?p=22716&highlight=#22716:

Not worried about it. I do enjoy a heated debate...its just pointless because I KNOW nothing like that can come out of my collection.
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Ed "KNOWS" and isn't even willing to consider the possibility. Pathetic.
 

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Not worried about it. I do enjoy a heated debate...its just pointless because I KNOW nothing like that can come out of my collection.
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Ed I do believe you are worried about it and what heated debate you have not done anything but avoid the whole issue. Thats piss poor in my book and shows a lack of character and Balls. She isn't asking for anything but acknowledgement. Man up Ed
 
ExoticsExpress said:
Too bad Bud and Bruce's membership just cant be terminated!

Anthony Allis
[email protected]
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I think Ed's membership should be considered for termination - I would personally chip in towards any reimbursement towads his dues back that he paid for his status - He aint nothing but a dirty snake pimp - proven time and time again - Let him take his garbage to another board...
 
I think he's afraid. He's afraid of everything and everyone, especially me. He's afraid, a little coward who has, once again, been caught lying and stealing.

He's a bad guy.
 
I personally find it funny how he can talk a good game on another forum when there is nobody there to "Debate" him :shrug01:
 
Why did the chicken cross the road?

I don't know mr. clark, why did you cross the road?

Was it to avoid the questions you've been asked here? To run away from the lies you've been busted telling?
 
It is truly amazing the cowardice exhibited by mr. clark.

He is bumping ads for snakes he has for sale, even as I type he is in the ball pythons for sale forum, he has responded to a question I asked there about the possibility of the snakes he has for sale being infected with parasites. mr. clark stated, again, that his snakes are randomly tested and that he is sure the snakes for sale have no parasites. He did not, however, state that he produced them himself.

I wonder why he can post there but not here?
 
Well Wes have to give you that one, just looked and he is there as I type.

Erin I agree with you , though I hope that if it were me that I'd handle the situation a whole lot better than Ed has here..

Randy
 
I took fecals collected from 9 of the snakes in my collection (not any of those from Ed) to the vet today and they all came back with negative results (note the DOB is just the current date again). These snakes are various ages, from various sources.

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I was not able to get fecals from the other females that came from Ed. I will be feeding them tonight and taking their fecals to the vet on Monday or Tuesday (or as soon as I can get them) for testing.
 
cookreptiles said:
I took fecals collected from 9 of the snakes in my collection (not any of those from Ed) to the vet today and they all came back with negative results (note the DOB is just the current date again). These snakes are various ages, from various sources.

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I was not able to get fecals from the other females that came from Ed. I will be feeding them tonight and taking their fecals to the vet on Monday or Tuesday (or as soon as I can get them) for testing.
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VERY interesting. Don't you agree, mr. clark?
 
Serafim said:
Thats piss poor in my book and shows a lack of character and Balls. She isn't asking for anything but acknowledgement. Man up Ed
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Well, apparently Ed is having issues with "manning up" to anything. I suppose because he's been handling other guys Balls for so long, he's still not sure how to handle his own. ;)

Thank you for posting your vet results so far, Emily. Interesting, indeed.
 
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