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Bad Guy Howlin' Gale Dragons

If you're using a PC, PrtScr or something similar will be on your print screen button. Pushing this takes a snapshot of your entire desktop or alt + print screen takes a shot of the active window.

That image is now on your clipboard, in temporary storage. Open pretty much any picture editing program- Paint will do and either Ctrl + V or use the Edit -> Paste command. That should drop the picture into the program. Save it someplace, ideally as a jpeg (they are pretty small files and almost universally acceptable for viewing and posting) and then upload it someplace.

Fauna has some space for attachments that can be added. There are online photo hosting sites like Photobucket that are free and easy... then use the image tags on the board. [img ]url of the photo[/img ] without the spaces inside the brackets.
 
Already changed...that was quick.
Her BD.org posting still has them labeled as het for trans tho...and I cant figure out how to screen capture. Here is the quote from the posting, however
I have three beautiful Sapphira X Bow Hypo babies for sale they are 100% Clear Nailed (Het For Translucent) and loaded with color two are intense reds and will only get better and one is a stunning Yellow who I think is going to look a lot like his father. All of these babies are eating Great and growing by leaps and bounds they would make Wonderful future breeders or pets as they are so friendly if I put my hand in the tank they crawl up my arm.
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Yeah, I noticed that when I pulled up her site. I was going to post the screen cap myself but it had already been changed.
 
sorry i wasn't able to access my computer the past 2 days. i have made a purchase from nicole.i'll apologize now this may be long... it was back in december of 08. nicole had posted up dragons she "needed" to get rid of to make space for other dragons.i contacted her about 1 dragon as a christmas gift for my gf. during the back & forth questions about the little one,i realized that i wanted 1 also. so i decided to bite the bullet and get both.Nicole quoted me a price. (if its necessary i can post the quoted price.) i asked if she could drop $5.00 off of the price. she responded to me that it was not possible to drop the price $5.00. i replied back to her that was fine,but i only wanted the original dragon now & to let me know how to make the payment to her.she only would accept PayPal (which i had to setup for this transaction). she then im's me that she can't understand how only $5.00 would make me not buy this dragon? i responded back that the only $$$ i had on the available card was $5.00 less than she was willing to sell both for. she did give in & we worked out shipping.
originally i was very happy with the 2 new additions. nicole absolutely breeds beautiful dragons. i guess what should have been an alarm screaming @ me that this was not a good business person was when she started instant messaging me about what breeders are scumbags. she told me NEVER to buy from sunshine dragons because of what they had supposedly done to one of their main breeders "Bow".
Now i didn't know how to take this. was she being cool trying to inform me of the bad business policies? or was she slandering her comp?im not saying she's wrong or right. i just didn't think it was proper to send me messages about them stating they're trying to sue her or fight with her for saying she has there prize breeder.
oh boy this is taking awhile... i'm going to make coffee... there's plenty more. once again i knew this would be long and winded.Sorry. be back soon.
 
& im horrible on the computer. i believe that nicole is "playing" dumb. there was a thread about a Jesse Wisecup where she sure knew her computer info there. she knew he had "altered" thier aim convos. i was going to bring up all this on that thread but Mr. Wisecup was not what i would call worthy to speak up for.
 
as for as never buying from sunshine dragons, that is ridiculouse he is a GREAT guy and a great breeder hes one of the better breeders out there and is an amazeing guy who has amazeing high quality animals.
I would purchase anything and evreything from Mike.
 
Sounds like she has a personal beef with him? When I mentioned that I was getting a dragon from Mike (a while back ) she also spoke of the issue she had with him. I still went ahead and purchased from Mike, and he was very easy to work with, and sent me beautiful dragons. He has also been very helpful with any questions I have had.

One way or another, I do not think it is fair to throw someone on a "bad guy" list without proof of being a "bad guy"

If she has some proof of the issue, she should bring it up in a new thread..

otherwise.

Back to topic. I hope that she does see what is going on here. Its not that people are merely attacking for fun. Its that they want her to see where she went wrong.

drop the pride.. live and learn
 
ok.back now...first let me state that i have seen sunshine dragons @ the area rep show (White Plains) for many years & thought it would be odd that if he was such a "bad" person to do business with how has he been around for years??
where was i? once again when i first received the dragons i was totally happy with them,to the point that i had recommended & praised the dragons she had for sale here on fauna advertised... then 1 day nicole had aim's me out of nowhere that another breeder on here (unique herp i believe) was another "horrible breeder" that i should steer clear of. that he had a clutch of babies drown in a water bowl too large for them. in the meantime i had been checking out beardies for sale here & noticed that sunshine dragons had been leaving very nice comments on nicole's animals. i found it strange that some1 she said was a POS breeder, that didn't care about his breeders, was posting nice things about her stuff.doesn't look to me like he was being difficult. during the aim conversation i brought it up to her asking what was up with him being so friendly when she said he was horrible? her response was i dunno he acting wierd. end of conversation.
2 days later(1/29/09) i get a message thru aim from her yelling @ me saying to stop defending that scumbag!!! at this point i have no idea whats going on,i ask what she's talking about and she starts slamming me saying my friend saw you defending UNIQUE HERP.
folks, i have NEVER had communication with this person @ ALL. unfortunately this aim convo is the only 1 i was able to save(like i said i am a computer retard) because my gf was here & did it for me... i will post that "friendly" message in a little bit. i need to tend to the monsters... they are hungry!!
 
miss tuniwha, i agree if she has/had a problem with them she should have brought it here instead of trying to pull some character assasination. i mean i'm a customer that had no need to be told of her own personal problems with them or other breeders or other customers. THATS BAD BUSINESS! Why would i even need to be told how bad they were when i wasn't even asking?
and now this whole genetics thing is really under my skin...
 
Alrighty now that I have had a few days to cool down and deal with my friends wake/Funeral I have unblocked Aaron and come back here, which I am hoping you can udnerstand I needed to deal with at home issues and the loss of a very good friend and this headach on Top of it. Aaron I only blocked you because I did not want any emails of any type untill I got the chance to COOL off as I did not want to say anything else wrong that I think everyone can under stand because this whole thing still has me pretty hot.

Now Issue one and I want to address this right away as i do not want Mike being dragged into this he has nothing to do with this BOI Thread and I don't know why his name was even brought up

I have NO BEEF with Mike he happens to be a very good friend of mine and we have been discussing this BOI as he has been helping me handle it and the stress I am going through right now, Last Year he and I did have an issue over a dragon though Shlages I have no Idea where yu came up with "Bow" Bow was given to me as a gift by Dragonz Whispers he is Atomic Lizard Ranch X Daichu lines Mike has never owned him the only thing I ever told you was I was having Issues with Mike over a dragon I never said anything beyond that as I do not do things like that. And to correct this Mike and I had a minor issue over a dragon named Lemonade that has been dropped and we have moved on it was not worth our friendship or the headachs it was causing for us.

So please can we leave Mike (Sunshine Dragons) out of it from this point on? I do not want him to have to come on here and deal with his name bring brought up though he has seen this thread and is aware of that.

Two the Bearded Dragon.org Ad you took a screen shot was a simple error on my part if you would go through and look at all of my other posts you will see them labled Poss. Het Trans I do not nor have I ever lied about my dragons genetics but thankyou for bringing that error up as I would have not seen it other wise and I have corrected it so there will be no issues sometimes I type faster then my brain thinks :shrug01: To clear the Trans this up the mother has produced actually Translucent babies including one Hypo Trans but this line that I bred her into this time was not from a Trans bred male and I list Poss Het Trans because I am not sure if the line will reproduce that trait though I hope they do I got rid of my Trans male due to his agression he was a bad nipper.

On the Howlin' Gale Stables site my friend actually built that for me and tought me how to work with site builders that is part of a Horse Sim I use to mess around with in my spare time on days I got bored I have a discalimer at the bottom just so no mistakes happened I do though Own a real Howlin' Gale Stables though none of the horses on that site are mine I own a AQHA Stud and Thoroughbred mare as stated by another member who has been here but the Howlin' Gale name is something I have always run by and always will I even have it on the side of my horses trailer and truck. (Attached Pictures of my real Horses just to clear up that miss understanding)

Now on my internet experience, I am not playing myself as you say it "Stupider" then I am I am truly still lost on Cacheing and hoping my one friend who builds sites will soon answer my email on it...here is a copy of the email I sent.

(We both have AOL so it dosen't show the @aol.com after then names just a little yellow man)

Subject: Internet Question
Date: 6/6/2009 9:43:21 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time
From: FordGalalxy500
To: X8XLoveStoryX7X

Hey I have a question for you, what is Chaceing? Some people tried to explain it I am still confussed when you get a chance could you please explain this to me so I don't look like such an idiot?
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On the other sites I ended up not able to use those site builders anymore Like Freewebs.com because I would go to edit something and i would get an Internet Explorer Error and it would crash for a while my friend was running my websites for me I just recently had enough of relying on someone else and Purcahsed an account through a Friend on BD.org that came with a Site Builder and he set up and Domain Name for me because I did not know how to do any of that. The Site Builder which I think is called "RV Site Builder" is a program where I just Paste the picture write what I want hit save and it changes it to html, I get two options If I knew HTML I could use the HTML editer but because I do not I just can keep going back to the site Builder Editor.

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I am sorry to everyone I was such a damn hot head and yes I do get this way at times I did not mean to take my emotional state out on anyone especially not Aaron and I know I shouldn't have. I hope things can be forgiven I do not want to be bashed anymore If everyone can stay calm in replying to this I will try to do the same I am trying to get back on all the questions and If I have missed some feel free to repost them so I can get to It I think there are like atleast 10 new pages give or take a few so I'm sure I probably missed a few questions along the way.

Aaron was given a refund today I am trying to make good on what happened, agian Aaron I am sorry for the trouble and headachs the past few days and for acting hot headed I just have alot going on right now and it all seems to be hitting in the same week.
 
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I did not bring Sunshine Dragons to the BOI because the issue he and I had for a little bit was personal and something felt had no place ont his board. As for Unique herp the only thing I told you Shlages was he was bad breeder and to stay away he had harassed me on msn calling me names that would be all bleeped on the board because I refused to sell him a dragon then he had killed a bunch of babies keeping them on sand and in huge water bowls I simply warned a few close friends of what was going on with him and to becareful he has actually sold dragons that where ill and sold dragons then never shipped now that part did not happen to me I just saw alot of posts on it at the time I try to keep my clients safe or would you have prefered never being warned and bought a dragon that died or you never got it? There are a few really bad eggs out there including him I do think I remember seeing a few BOI's on him though I am not 100% sure I'd have to look agian
 
I could have been mistaken but I seriously thought that was a knot as the drift wood I get I find on the beaches and carefully sterilize Some of it I sand down some I don't to me it looked like the knot I saw on the wood in a few other pictures.
 
And to make sure everyone is clear I only have ONE dragon from Mike/Sunshine Dragons and I had gotten her before Mike took over the business and thats Lemonade though I do hope to ad a couple of his reds later down the road.
 
and you are right it was lemonade... and mike i did not bring this up to drag you into this. But why is it that i knew what the problem was? you told me she was a rescue that they would have froze because she had fractured leg or pelvis or something... & now that she was healthy & ready to breed again that they wanted either her back or you to pay for her. my point here is I AM NOT IN BUSINESS WITH YOU!!! WHY WOULD YOU TELL ME ABOUT YOUR BUSINESS PROBLEMS????i should not be privy to your situation with mike,unique herp or any other private business matters...i sat back & watched & waited to tell my experience i had from 1 sale with you. & there's still more to come.
 
if you didnt want to bring mike here why did you go out of your way to character assasinate your "friend"?
Mike any of this sound familiar to you? how would i have known any of it & is it any of my business?
 
No you are not in business with me but I do try to protect clients Unique Herp is one of the worse people I have come across I asked a couple people it just this way..

"If I knew someone was a bad breeder/handler and dragons where dieing and ill wouldn't you like to be informed of this?"

Everyone answered yes they would want to know about so they did not have to find out the hard way


Lemonade had a broken upper hind leg, URI, Coccidia, Dehydration, and was Emaciated along with 3rd Degree Burns on her back but like I said that did not happen in Mike's care as far as I know he may have never even seen her in person.
 
I Never Assisinated Mike or however you call it I had considered you a friend and told you I was having some minor issues with Mike I never said anything bad about him or his dragons there is a HUGE difference there. There is a big line between Talk Smack about a breeder and discussing with someone you know that your having a problem I talk with Mike almost every day he is a Great guy with Great dragons.
 
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