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Indigo umbilical scar

umbilical scar

This is the best pic that I have of an umbilical scar. It has not healed yet and you can see that it is only two scales in length. This is a ball python. I have one of an indigo but it is very poor quality. Scars that involve more that two scales are defects . So if you see more than two scales involved it is a genetic defect. These should not be breed . And not to be sold as umbilical scars. Hope the pic shows the area. If not , I have another clutch that is due in about 32 days. Stan Ordonez
 
Sorry- "umbilical scar"

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Hi, this is my first time here . I'm not really a fan of snakes. I think I have seen an eastern indigo in my neighborhood . It seemed to be about 7 ft. I just happened to catch the tail end of it . It was a beautiful black cast blue as it went by . Any advice ?
 
Hi Kimberly, welcome! How cool, be very thankful :) And try not to let anyone hurt it! They keep down the rodent population as well as eating rattlesnakes and other venomous too! Totally harmless to humans. I would absolutely love to have wild indigos in my neighborhood :)
 
So if I happen to see it again ,which I've heard it is few n far between ,I will let it be n live in peace. Thank you ,lovin2act . My husband n I did some research but what I read said nothin about its true temperament . What about dogs n cats . It won't come after me when walking my dogs
 
Wild indigos are some of the most gentle spirits you can encounter. They are as tame as a wild animal can be. As long as you keep your dogs away from the snake, it will likely slither down the nearest hole before you even notice its there.
 
How old do you think it is . All I saw was about the last 1/4 of it . You know it didn't run . It was like ,it walked on by .
 
There's no telling how old a snake is from its size. It's probable you encountered a male, because males are larger than females in indigos (in most snakes it's the other way around). You definitely encountered a mature adult though. They don't get much larger than that.
 
+1.

I caught wild indigos, decades ago...they puff up and flatten their necks, but they do not bite humans, and probably won't bite cats or dogs, either. I have five cats, and five indigos....they don't interact, but I am absolutely certain that my cats are safe, even if they should ever meet. An indigo will NEVER attack anything that won't fit in its belly. (Which means a small rat, at best). Furthermore, they eat rattlesnakes, cottonmouths, and other native poisonous snakes, which means they are your allies, in protecting your family.

You're very lucky, to have that snake in your neighborhood. Protect him.
 
I will . I would feel horrible to even think of moving it from its area . Still not much of a fan but knowing what y'all have told me makes me more comfortable about his presence around us . I totally appreciate all the feedback . All of you have a great evening . I will look for more advice if I encounter him but I doubt I'll see him any more . I'm not going to lg off . I will check,y'all 's posts on this indigo later tonite . Thanks soooooo much .
 
You'll see him again; while indigos are non-confrontational, they are also unafraid. compared to the "average" non-venomous snake.

They are considered some of the most intelligent snakes, and I will say that my snakes absolutely recognize and trust me. Yesterday, one ate a meal sideways, but trusted me when I helped her squeeze it to fit, with my hand touching her jaws. No other snake would ever abide this.

This snake is VERY special, and you will be very happy that you trusted your instincts, and created a mutual trust with this snake.

By the way, these are a Federally, and State protected, threatened species. To help convince your neighbors to help your conservation efforts, the Orianne Society may give you great info


A newborn human baby would be absolutely safe, with this snake crawling over him or her. Even under the worst circumstances,{which won't happen, ever} the snake can only cause an ugly cut, about like a blackberry thorn when you're running............in short, the snake is in danger, but you and your family are not....in fact, the snake is protecting you.

Thank you for being so peaceful and wonderful, as to seek the best way to deal with this creature in an understanding and heartfelt manner!
 
Thank you BMWdirtracer.i have been dreaming about this snake. Mostly like the snake in a Disney cartoon. But ,I will not bother him .i walk there every day since I got my dogs who are now three years old . They wanted to go there but now they just walk past just looking cause they know its over there. Do the indigos travel in a large area or are they hang around by their home. You know. Don't think I will say anything to my neighbors. I don't know who might be an opportunist n try to catch it . I find that those types don't care about the laws . You know what I mean . If any of my neighbors come to ask about seeing one if they are concerned I will tell them what I learned here . This site has a great group of lovers of this snake . It seems crazy to think that it probably knows me n sees me .oh, I wanted to ask how do you think it made it to my neighborhood . Talking with my husband we discussed that it could have already lived here but my neighborhood has been here since 1969 . I suppose it hasn't been here that long ,lol. Or somebody had these indigos and just set them loose ,you think ? It seems that when I moved here I remembered seeing a little black snake but I was told it was a garden snake . Is that another term people use to describe this indigo ?like I said at the beginning ,I know absolutely nothing . Not a real fan . The more I learn I wish I could get "him" to come to my yard . Lol.
 
There are many different smaller snakes that can be black. Eastern hognose, black rat snake, water snakes, black racers, garter snakes, etc. all have black forms. Even some venomous snakes, like timber rattlesnakes and cottonmouths can be black.

The most common "black" snake you'll see are the extremely fast and aptly named black racer. These look like indigo snakes in miniature, down to their very smooth scales. They are also harmless, but are pretty spastic and likely to bite if you catch them (which is no big deal). Black racers have white chins, if you can get a glimpse of one long enough to see it.

Eastern indigos, on the other hand, will be far chunkier, slower, uniformly black, and more curious, even at younger ages. They are truly a magnificent animal and one of my favorite creatures.

If you ever do encounter a snake and need immediate identification, feel free to post your smart phone photos to the Snake Identification Facebook page. That page is run by a colleague of mine (Christopher Smith) who is a biologist with the Minnesota Department of Natural Resources. The page has numerous professionals on it, who are all dedicated to giving rapid, correct identification to anything that is posted. This has saved many a snake's life, and more recently helped a dog in Florida get rapid veterinary attention after it was bitten by a cottonmouth (the dog is on the way to recovery now).

You are always welcome to post here in Fauna and I encourage you to do so, since we can go into far greater depth here than on the Facebook page, which is solely for rapid identification.
 
Wow. It's nice to know that there is a group that is very knowledgeable about this subject. I will keep in touch with y'all n let y'all know how "my" indigo is doing . I would love to see it again . I'm truely to scared to even go over there ,but me n my dogs will keep a look out . My dogs are Weimaraners . They listen to me very well soooooo, they will also alert me when we co e close to let me know if "my indigo" is around . They are very good dogs n listen when I say ,stay away . They haven't alerted me since ."he" must be staying away from us . That's ok . I don't want "him" upset in any way . Thank you also Snoegyre.
 
The indigo snake is one of the most intelligent snakes in the world; they actually know one person from a different person. They are not fearful, like many snakes, and therefore they are "curious", much like your dogs, or my cats.

I'm sorry that I can't explain it much better than that. Your snake is not going to follow you around, and yes, he has a significant range. But while he'll be justifiably scared of your dogs, he's not likely to react much to your presence, because he has no reason to believe that you are a threat.

Most Eastern Indigos will not bite human beings, even when confronted or lifted from wild surroundings.
 
That's exactly what I was wondering . I haven't seen him but I have seen his presence meaning when he catches a bird ,feathers are in a rectangular circle.his trails .little things now that make sense to me that I noticed in the past . Truly relieved and waiting for the next sighting . No touching . I would like to see it in complete length where it lives . I would probably have to camp out and wait without the dogs . I'm amazed .
 
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Here's a young E. Indigo that I returned. This is the snake that started this thread . The seller said these split scales would no longer be present after a year. As you can tell these scales are split. This was his version of a perfect E. Indigo. I returned this snake. I did not feel comfortable with it. I hope the seller learned something form this. I know I did. I do have two E, Indigos that I purchased after this bump in the road. They are now over four feet long and strong. I hope the pics come up. Have a good day, Stan
 
Hi Stanley,

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