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Inquiry: Dachiu

varnyard said:
Rumor has it she has been knowing about having the virus since 2002.
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Bobby, calm down. You have a source? Name it. Otherwise this is "anonymous third party information" that does not belong on the BOI and you know it.

Emotions are obviously running very high on the part of many here. Let's try to stick to the facts folks, please. Comments like "this is all about the money" don't really help. If this is a full time job for a breeder (as it is for many here) it is about the money as that is how they pay their mortgages and buy groceries. No harm in a business making a profit. Unethical behavior, if that occurred, is a different issue entirely.
 
Jim O said:
Bobby, calm down. You have a source? Name it. Otherwise this is "anonymous third party information" that does not belong on the BOI and you know it.

Emotions are obviously running very high on the part of many here. Let's try to stick to the facts folks, please. Comments like "this is all about the money" don't really help. If this is a full time job for a breeder (as it is for many here) it is about the money as that is how they pay their mortgages and buy groceries. No harm in a business making a profit. Unethical behavior, if that occurred, is a different issue entirely.
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It is all in there, you need to follow the link posted above.
 
We're done for the night... 7 hours is long enough.

But if anyone knows where to get a blood PCR done, please pm me.
 
yes,its all the facts that prove vicky dachiu is knowingly selling adeno positive beardies and she is not notifying the buyers,she also exports them to canada!
 
walker75 said:
Wes, out of the EM testing that was performed in Ill. from August 2006 to date - which is when all of this started (with Wendy) we can account for 5% of the slides tested.


LIE"s again This did not start with Wendy get the facts straight ...

Yep trying to blame this on Wendy now Vicki


Wendy can you comment if you are the first person as to when this all started?
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In all fairness, I am pretty sure Vickie is saying that the testing Lou Ann is giving data on started with the tests I sent in.

I am quite certain that Vickie knows this has been around for quite some time. She can elaborate on that if she would like, as I am curious how long she has been aware that adenovirus was an issue in the U.S. dragon population.
 
Stardust said:
As I bought from Vicki and Rob Dachui I thought it only right that I start this thread. It is me who is paying for the testing to get done. And it will officially be on their own thread if people are to inquire about them as opposed to Denise's thread.
Has anyone else bought Beardies from this company that has tested their animals of adeno or have had animals die or have been lied to?
The disclaimer on their site states clearly that they do not test their breeders or the babies before selling. :angry:
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I'm going to try to give a run-down on what's gone on here. I'm sure a lot of this information isn't important to most, but may be important to someone.

In all fairness to Vickie, my original group of dragons are said to be from Dachiu, and I purchased them on Reptibid from a guy that said he bought wholesale from Vickie. Because they didn't come directly from Vickie, and because I didn't do any testing until the beginning of this year, I can't say that they were positive when they left the Dachiu facility. Anyway, that original group consists of Aphrodite, Fiera, Athena, Apollo, Angel and Ivory. Aphrodite, Fiera, and Athena are all living and Fiera and Athena test positive.

Apollo, Angel and Ivory all passed away late 2005/early 2006, and no necropsy was performed. I did not test any of them for Adenovirus. Of Apollo's offspring, and that I have been notified of, 1 currently tests negative, 2 test positive. Apollo's "widow", the mother to those offspring, tests negative.

There is some discrepancy that I need to straighten out with Lou Ann regarding Aphrodite between what I was explained to me on the phone and what my results, say, but I'm sure she's positive. Please keep in mind, this discrepancy is probably just my hearing, nothing to do with Lou Ann. Two of Aphrodite and Hercules offspring have tested positive that I am aware of.

Newer additions to our group who were acquired directly from Dachiu (but not necessarily by me) include Hercules, who tests positive, and Annie, who I no longer own, and has not been tested by her new owners, as they claim she is a pretty pet, nothing more.

Although I don't have Annie anymore, her offspring that we kept are Sugar, Fireball, Fury, Teenie Tiny and Itty Bitty, of whom 2 were tested and are positive for Adenovirus. I don't believe the new owner will be testing the father of these babies, but I do know that one of his brothers tests negative. I don't know if that makes any difference or not.
 
Dachiu is also no longer a forum moderator over the bearded dragons forums on this site.
 
Vickie,

I understand that many dragons have been diagnosed with Adeno and have lived long happy lives. I aint trying to dispute that. I dont even care if you sell Adeno positive dragons. I just think it is only right and fair, that by your own admission, that you say on your website and in ads that you believe your breeding colony has a good chance of being Adeno positive. Dont twist it around in a bunch of legalese, be straight up with people. Your customers have a RIGHT to know and then to make a choice for themselves. And dont tell them that all dragons have this. That is an opinion and nothing near a fact. Selling any other way is sleazy and underhanded to say the least. The fine folks here on the BOI would not give anyone else a pass for this type of crap. Anyone.

Secondly I cant believe how willing you were to ruin the reputation of an innocent person for your own selfish reasons. And were willing to let Bobby take the fall all by himself over it. Since you failed to address this in the other thread I will repost it here.

Vickie,

I dont even own a dragon. Never have. I stumbled into this mess while researching dragons because my little girl wants one. She has spent the last two years proving with her leos that she is responsible enough.

So I had no dog in this fight. Right up until I seen people trying to turn Denise into a bad guy. I dont even know Denise. Didnt matter. I just knew it wasnt right. You say you didnt encourage Bobby, but I sure didnt see you make a single post publicly trying to discourage him. Not a single post saying, "Bobby we dont know the truth yet". For 3 days you kept pointing out inconsistencies in Denise's posts to Bobby and showing him other info to contradict Denise. Then set back and watched him go after her publicly. Not once did you try to correct Bobby publicly or try to discourage him in any way in any of these threads. NOT ONCE. You wanted him to go after her or you would have stepped forward and said something publicly. I firmly believe that.

You seen what he was doing for 3 days. And kept pumping him info on the phone/PM/email to use against Denise. You may not have said "Bobby go do this", but you sure made sure he had ammo and you seen for 3 days what he was doing with it. So you sure didnt object to what he was trying to do. Which was to hang an innocent person.

Bobby,

Correct me if I am wrong. Did you not tell me that after Vickie went on and on to you that no PCR blood test existed, then she found out that it did and posted about it.... the first thing she said to you on the phone was "but Bobby we dont even know that she really tested".

That dont sound to me like someone trying to discourage Bobby. It sounds like someone who flat out wanted him to continue going after an innocent person.

To which Bobby replied, "That is correct Sammy!!"
 
she also refuses to change the disclaimer on her website that states she does not test for adeno :angry: the public should be made aware that she HAS tested and has found adeno in her colony.
 
varnyard said:
Here is proof she posted, it is her test results.

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=45361

She is selling beardies with a killing virus!!!
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So is virtually everyone on this page:

http://market.kingsnake.com/index.php?cat=51

Why is Vickie worse than all of them?

Bobby, it seems you are letting your injured pride get in the way of your usual rational thought processes. I understand that you believe that you were "played" but in the end you made the choice, many times, to hit that submit button. There is no real hard proof that her beardies are carry a "killing virus". They probably carry adenovirus like you and I probably also do. After all, her babies are thriving and they do carry a six week health guarantee There are only a few anecdotal reports of babies dying from it. I guarantee that I can culture killer bacteria off multiple sites on your body. Does that mean you shouldn't have contact with other humans?

I'm not defending anyone here, just trying to make the point that some other relatively cool headed people have made that we really do not know how significant an issue this is.
 
varnyard said:
It is all in there, you need to follow the link posted above.
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Bobby, you posted a link to a test result from 2007 and a "rumor" from 2002. Where does the "rumor" come from?
 
dachiu also sell to france and Japan.

This is most likely a world wide condition due in NO small part to the uncaring actions of vicki and rob dachiu.

That pretty much sucks. Bigtime.
 
Jim O said:
Bobby, you posted a link to a test result from 2007 and a "rumor" from 2002. Where does the "rumor" come from?
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I have to agree with Jim on this one Bobby. You gotta name your source.
 
Her Canadian distribiter Jim Dike, JimD, AKA J&J Reptiles, admitted importing Dachiu dragons into Canada last year.
He claims Canada knows that he is doing it.

Jim O, you need to do some reading in the other thread, you might want to catch up a bit.
 
Wilomn said:
dachiu also sell to france and Japan.

This is most likely a world wide condition due in NO small part to the uncaring actions of vicki and rob dachiu.

That pretty much sucks. Bigtime.
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Wes,

Now you're part of a lynch mob. You have no idea whether there were AV positive colonies in those countries prior to receiving said exports. And the Dachius are likely not the only exporters. And even if they are solely responsible, it may have happened before anyone was aware of it.
 
jim o,we are talking about the sneakiness,and the devious ways vicky is selling the beardies and what she DOESNT state on her website.yes,alot of other breeders have adeno in their colony but here in this thread we are talking about vicky and rob dachiu.have you read the entire thread that we linked?have you seen the way things have transpired?its absolutely discusting
 
varnyard said:
Her Canadian distribiter Jim Dike, JimD, AKA J&J Reptiles, admitted importing Dachiu dragons into Canada last year.
He claims Canada knows that he is doing it.

Jim O, you need to do some reading in the other thread, you might want to catch up a bit.
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VERY TRUE! jim o you need to do some reading before you jump to conclusions on this thread.
 
Dachiu said:
But if anyone knows where to get a blood PCR done, please pm me.
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Your vet already verified that the Cali Lab does indeed accept PCR BlOOD TESTS. They then send the PCR BLOOD test to a private lab to have it tested. So why dont you have your vet find out from the Cali lab who does their PCR BLOOD testing for them since vets are the only people the Cali lab will talk to.

Dont you think that would be the intelligent thing to do?
 
CheriS, told her about it in 2002.
 
I disagree JimO. Given the numbers of animals they produce, the lies they have told, the lengths they have gone to in order to downplay this, I think I am well within reason to make such statements as I did.
 
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