Inquiry - Jeff Schofield?

[David Scarboro]

Thats a first!

Its been well over a year,I had 2 hondos and got 1 from you(female)....wrong one.You are right,sorry,Jeff

You have said many times that you "are through posting here". Before you go, lets have some simple answers...

1. In our deal, at the beginning, you said, "sorry no pics, girlfriend broke my camera". Later in the Thread that I started about the way you had scammed me in our trade you said, "what happened, you had pics of all of them". Which is it, broken camera or pics?

2. Later you posted that you had tried to call me, "but my phone was disconnected. Never has been. Why tell that lie?

3. The first pkg. that you sent was returned to you by DHL with a snake hanging out of it. The second was received by me with a snake loose in it and stuck to duct tape. The third pkg. (to make the deal right) only contained a "smelly" gym sock (your words) with a hole in it. The last person to post on the thread (at your urging) was "pebbles" never heard from before or after that. He said that he got a dead snake from you, but you "made it right". (that's your absolution?) You seem to be developing a pattern regarding shipping. How can a self proclaimed "consummate biologist" treat animals this way?

4. Your ads. (seems that I am not the only person watching them) Last year, you had "two gravid maritime garters" up on ks for 5 months. That's a long time to hold babies! This year in January, you advertised "moving, must get rid of all snakes, condo rules etc." A month later, "trade for breeding stock", Then, a few weeks later. "going overseas everything has to sell!" Is this a permanent going out of business sale?

I still have all of our correspondence... I was scammed, and will never forget it. I have moved on but I do love to see you squirm and wiggle like you are doing here. Would you like to continue?

 

[Brad Alexander]

Bravo Jeff, good job simplifying the various situations talked about on this thread. It wasn't ONLY about not getting a pic, it was more about your scamming style of communication. HUGE red flags buddy.

John, I noticed the brumation thing in his first message about it, where he said they were in brumation for 5 months, then later, in another post, he says 5 - 6 months. Nice to see someone bringing it up. Two different stories, AGAIN! On top of that, and maybe even worse yet, keeping them in brumation for that long???! What is this guy thinking?

So lets see, there's all the things I mentioned before and now we can add to it lying (yes, at best, you have only lied about those hondo's coming from Scarboro when they didn't, he sent you females. Call it a mistake, it's still a lie. I'm sure there are MANY others we can hash out as well). We can also add poor husbandry because 6, or even 5 months in brumation is seriously not right, don't even try to justify that one, you'll get hammered by even more people.

You asked me to go to Fauna and to KS to check into you. I did, and I have no doubt that you now regret it.

Whatever you do, do not blame me for this catastrophe.

Brad

 

[herp4fun]

why am I not suprised!

Jeff still waiting on all your happy customers to come to your defense.Where are they? Please send them this link so we can hear someone agree with you and your godlike reputation. I was also wondering how much would it be for a CLEAN empty gym sock shipped? I'd stop while I was ahead if I were you.(Glad im not) This thread will be here for yrs to come,even when all us "NEWBIES" will be the elders as you word it.

 

[SnakesUnlimited]

Well Jeff

I said I wasn't going to respond but calling you a name got me fined so I figured I should at least correct you on one thing. The animals came to me this spring 05 not in 04 I have only had them for about 6 months not a year and a half. I didn't even live in Chicago last spring(04).

John thanks for seeing the 5-6 months thing. I was to wrapped up in the other BS. For the record John here is a great guy and he has to much of my money. His bloodlines are fantastic. In fact to make myself feel better about all this negative stuff I think I will put together a good guy list.

And for real this time the last thing I have to say about this thread. Mike never was a problem. He was not the person i referred to that shipped me a snake in a bag with a hole in it. That was someone else and who that is, is none of your business. He made good on that. Want to know how??? He apologized instead of berating me. You are not in their company at all. The dismal health of the snakes, well... I don't want to pay another $10 to the fauna fund.

Good Bye for good this time. (Unless i have to pay another $10 )

Later Jason

 

[Jeff Schofield]

President of your fan club

David, I brought your name up so I feel you deserve my time here.I would have liked everyone to read what OTHER things have happened in my crazy life so maybe they could overlay all these individual accounts to see that they match up.They do.That said:
1)David I had some pics,my girl lost my camera so I couldnt get MORE.I understand how variable reds can be and I cant blame you(or anyone)for asking for more pics.I told you the truth then and now.Story hasnt changed.Other than I got a new camera.
2)I swear the phone came up disconnected,and will swear on it forever because that is what the operator told me.
3)There was a shipping problem on my part(I know,again).I acknowledged it to you at the time and apologized.BUT there isnt a person here that would send an empty sock overnite delivery,that just makes no sense. If I was going to take advantage of you this is at best fiscally irresponsible.It never happened,you pocketed the extra red milk.To belittle me for supposedly impersonating a biologist--hey,we PICKLE specimens,be happy they were alive,lol.
4)For every time I said I was moving,I was.For every time I had to move all my stuff and change my life(read going to Europe twice)I was. My job now is in marketing so do I creatively word my ads,sure. I dont lie about what I have or how I got it.Sometimes I forget the little details of deals and snakes from years past,everyone does.I have also noticed that it keeps everyone reading them to begin with,and isnt that the object of sales?
Most importantly,David,when you agree to a trade you have to live with it.I sent you everything I told you I would (you had pics of the red,albino,and I cant even remember what else,its been a long time)and went the extra mile to send you that extra milk.You told me you were not into breeding so I sent you a bunch of males.To continue to suggest to me to give you MORE than what I did,(like that email you just sent)I suggest again that NOTHING will make you happy.

Others,you have likely noticed that I dont deal with tropical animals.I have major successes with cold weather brumation techniques that have served me well for years.I suggest manipulating GENETICS of a albino or anery hondo is much more damaging than brumating for 5 months(Oct-Mar)here in Boston.I am not a minimalist when it comes to brumation.I have brumated these months for more than 10 years here with no problems.In fact I have had major successes with colubrids requiring either colder or longer brumation than possible in FL or CA,montane species in particular(are there mountains in the honduran range,hmm).Is this different from the guys who breed hondos in FL and CA,sure.But I never bred Hondos,never claimed to,and honestly dont know if I ever will.These are man made animals,we manipulate EVERYTHING in their entire lives,I dont see why length of brumation would be any different than set diet,mate selection,housing requirements or artificial temps. We manipulate these parameters to fit us,not the other way around.It is weight based after all.
Well thats it,I want to thank Rich again for letting me defend myself and entertain the rest.I waited to answer David,so now,have a nice night.Jeff

 

[Dennis Hultman]

I will end this with another's perfectly phrased retort:

Yeah, I know what you mean about the young bucks. Long on testosterone and short on gray matter...... LOL!

Take care.

Thanks.

Rich Zuchowski

Couldnt have said it better myself,Jeff

Hi Jeff, How you doing?
I have read this thread twice just to see if I missed this quote somewhere, I can't seem to find it.
So, are you posting Private Messages?

I must say that in this thread, the thread starter was on extremely shaky ground, no actually he had zero grounds to call you a scammer after the first few emails. The position of your being a Scammer was extremely hasty.

Jeff, your arrogance did not help the situation at all. I think your arrogance shows more with each and every post you make. Your above quote from Rich makes it appear that he agrees with you on one of your particular threads and is a little unfair to post have a conversation in this manner. Also, if it is in response to this thread it is against the rules to post third party conversations.

In regards to other thread, since it has been brought up here. I do not think you shipped only a dirty sock but I do believe that is all David received. You have to admit, which you have pretty much done so, that your shipping procedures need a great deal of correction. That alone should be a Buyer Beware discussion.
Maybe, just maybe you should have added a minor in shipping practices to all of your studies.

If you did not find yourself compelled to keep responding to the emails, this thread probably would not have been started. Then other Buyer Beware information would not have come to light.
It would seem your occupational needs and your constant moving leave you in a state of disarray. You seem very unorganized and not reliable to conduct business with. It least that is my opinion

It does not hold well that your animals are not in your possession and the difficulties you have with contacting the person who does have physical control of them. There are too many issues of concern with that scenario.

I guess my point would be that the initial complaint might not have been a worthy BOI issue but your responses made it so.

 

[Dennis Hultman]

Jeff, your arrogance did not help the situation at all. I think your arrogance shows more with each and every post you make. Your above quote from Rich makes it appear that he agrees with you on one of your particular threads and is a little unfair to post have a conversation in this manner. Also, if it is in response to this thread it is against the rules to post third party conversations.

*half

 

[Chris@TSE]

I've heard the name somewhere, but where or why the name seems familiar I do not know.

Perhaps the new hit series "Prison Break" would ring a bell?

'tis the last name of the main Character.....

One hell of a name for an alias perhaps

 

[reptilebreeder]

It would seem your occupational needs and your constant moving leave you in a state of disarray. You seem very unorganized and not reliable to conduct business with. It least that is my opinion

It does not hold well that your animals are not in your possession and the difficulties you have with contacting the person who does have physical control of them. There are too many issues of concern with that scenario.

I guess my point would be that the initial complaint might not have been a worthy BOI issue but your responses made it so.

All good points in your thread. His arrogance compels him to continually bring up his degrees, and breeding experience (I use this term lightly), and his tutulage under the best colubrid person ever (whose he talking about BTW?), and when that doesn't sway you, he assumes it's because you're some teenager, and/or you just got into snakes last week.
All that aside, my main concerns are that he should get out of this hobby. He thinks it's no big deal to brumate a honduran for six months. He so much as admits that when he has more important things to do (which is apparently anything else) that he has not much concern with the trouble of packing/shipping snakes, and that accounts for the lost snakes, or snakes stuck to tape. He seems to be constantly packing, and moving his snakes around, and leaving them in the care of other people whom one wonders how well they take care of them. He doesn't want to bother with photos, he'll just sell them for a lot less (even though he supposedly only deals in high end) cause it's not worth the time and effort. Then of course there is Rich's quote (taken out of context, no doubt) that he attempts to use to strenghten his case, that anybody that is not impressed by him is just some stupid young person. Which is funny considering that the average experience and age of FC users is probably higher than it is over at KS, which has an awful lot of newbies, that he seems to hate, yet loves to mention that he has been over there forever.

 

[David Scarboro]

Wrong Again! (you're probably used to it by now!)

2)"I swear the phone came up disconnected,and will swear on it forever because that is what the operator told me."

You talk to the operator??, I usually get a recording!

3)[/QUOTE]"There was a shipping problem on my part(I know,again).I acknowledged it to you at the time and apologized.BUT there isnt a person here that would send an empty sock overnite delivery,that just makes no sense. If I was going to take advantage of you this is at best fiscally irresponsible.It never happened,you pocketed the extra red milk."[/QUOTE]

Wrong Again!


4)[/QUOTE]"For every time I said I was moving,I was.For every time I had to move all my stuff and change my life(read going to Europe twice)I was. My job now is in marketing so do I creatively word my ads,sure."[/QUOTE]

I guess creative could be another word for lying...


[/QUOTE]"Most importantly,David,when you agree to a trade you have to live with it."[/QUOTE]


Sure, If you had lived up to your part of the deal!

"These are man made animals,"[/QUOTE]

Durn! And here I thought God was responsible!

[/QUOTE]

 

[Suncoast Herpetological]

Once again Jeff you are trying to double talk your way out of a corner. Let's take these ridiculous statements one at a time

Others,you have likely noticed that I dont deal with tropical animals.I have major successes with cold weather brumation techniques that have served me well for years.

The fact that the animals did not die and managed to breed after extremely extended brumation periods does not mean that it is optimal or even healthy. It simply means they did not die. I have a buddy down in Florida who routinely drops the temps in his room from 84 to 55 in a 12 hour period to begin brumation. When I pointed out that it was undoubtedly hard on the animals he responded in a very similar way to yours by saying "They do great for me " That is the equivalent of playing Russian Roulette and saying that since the gun did not go off while pointed at your head it must be a safe activity. Just because it doesn't kill them doesn't mean you should do it.

I suggest manipulating GENETICS of a albino or anery hondo is much more damaging than brumating for 5 months(Oct-Mar)here in Boston.

So selective breeing for particular traits is worse than starving and cooling an animal for 6 months? I don't think I can add anything to that to make it sound any more ridiculous.

I am not a minimalist when it comes to brumation.I have brumated these months for more than 10 years here with no problems.In fact I have had major successes with colubrids requiring either colder or longer brumation than possible in FL or CA,montane species in particular

If you can find me a single breeder who follows your bizarre techniques i would like to hear from him. i bred several montane kingsnakes in past years very successfully on a 90 day brumation schedule. Your system seems to be based on your convenience and not on the care of the animals. Not really a big surprise given your statements in thi thread

(are there mountains in the honduran range,hmm).

Cute and glib but hardly worthy of comment

These are man made animals,we manipulate EVERYTHING in their entire lives,I dont see why length of brumation would be any different than set diet,mate selection,housing requirements or artificial temps. We manipulate these parameters to fit us,not the other way around.It

And hear, again, is the topper. Responsiible breeders do not manipulate the conditions to suit their needs. They manipulate the conditions to best suit the animals needs. They do not ship in uninsulated and sub-par packaging. Just because you live in an area with a six month winter does not mean that you abuse your animals because it is the easy way to do it. You buy a couple of freaking space heaters and think of the animals first.

i agree with those posters who thought that Brad should not have started this thread based on the original Email excahange. However Jeff, I believe that this thread has definitely served it's purpose. I am pretty sure that your customer base is dwindling here with every statement you are making

 

[LotsaPetsGarfHt]

Come on Jeff!

Get in on the ground floor, buy some of my PURPLE AVENGER corn snakes. SIGHT UNSEEN of course.

 

[herp4fun]

still none

Jeff, I see still none of your very happy customers that have bought from you sight unseen have yet to come and defend your almighty reputation. Im not suprised. Good luck in life & whatever else it is you do.

 

[Brad Alexander]

Finally the truth

Mr. Schofield has finally posted some pictures of his thayeri in an effort to sell them. As it turns out, they are not the high end animals he was trying to sell me on.

Here is what he told me:
"Brad, I have no pics.All I can tell you is that they are adult females and way better than average ones.no tipping at all. I sold one female last week sight unseen and the guy was totally happy.Can give you his info if you dont believe me,dont know what else to say,Jeff"

Here is a link to the animals in question:
Supposed clean thayeri # 1

Supposed clean thayeri # 2

No tipping? Better than average?

Here's a link to an average, maybe just above average animal:
young but average

Bottom line, he missrepresented them. I stand behind my original opinion 100%

 

[Suncoast Herpetological]

Mr. Schofield has finally posted some pictures of his thayeri in an effort to sell them. As it turns out, they are not the high end animals he was trying to sell me on.

Here is what he told me:
"Brad, I have no pics.All I can tell you is that they are adult females and way better than average ones.no tipping at all. I sold one female last week sight unseen and the guy was totally happy.Can give you his info if you dont believe me,dont know what else to say,Jeff"

Here is a link to the animals in question:
Supposed clean thayeri # 1

Supposed clean thayeri # 2

No tipping? Better than average?

Here's a link to an average, maybe just above average animal:
young but average

Bottom line, he missrepresented them. I stand behind my original opinion 100%

Brad

If you recall i was one of Mr. Schofield's most vehement detractors in this thread. His overall lack of concern for his animals and apalling lack of interest in husbandry left us all with a surplus of contempt. I am sure that Jeff has done his reputation permanent damage by his ill considered statements here.

That said.....

You are beating a seriously deceased equine on your specific situation. No one here thought that his initial exchange with you warranted this thread. He hung himself out to dry here on his general disregard for the animals.

Let's address the pics you just posted.

The first is a lousy pic of a reasonably average animal. Not bad but nothing to write home about.

The second is a poor pic of an above average specimen. A decent photo would demonstrate that without a doubt.

Your pic is a professional quality well lighted shot of a truly exceptional animal, not a slightly above average animal.

Besides, average above average and exceptional when referring to variable species like these are very subjective terms.

In short, I still see no reason for this thread to have been started and I don't find your new evidence to add to your case in any way. I am however, glad it was started because it gave Jeff the opportunity to show his true colors here

 

[Chris@TSE]

Hey John, you may be forgetting this thread started as an inquiry, not a bad guy post.

Inquiry - Jeff Schofield?

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Anyone know this guy? I have an interest in thayeri and he is trying to sell some. He was very pushy with me, trying to get me to buy them sight unseen. I didn't appreciate his abrasive selling tactics, so, I called him a scam and told him I had no interest in purchasing any animals sight unseen. He became overwhelmingly deffensive, belittled me on several levels, of which, his favorite seems to be that "I am a no name punk". According to him, a person should just trust his word and buy snakes from him sight unseen because he has a very good reputation. And besides that, they are super nice animals, no tipping or anything. Of course, these are his claims and cannot be validated. For all I know, he may have some truly nice thayeri for sale???

Thanks,

Brad Alexander

I see perfect reason for such a post..... Obviously just like any other inquiry on the BOI, searching for information on an individual to whom he was communicating with regarding a possible transaction. He seemed questionable and it seems to me like a good use of this resource. According to the possible buyer, he may have seemed abrassive but he was still searching for information to say otherwise, or confirm his gut feelings.

Just figured you may have confused it with a bad guy post.

ttyl bud

 

[Dennis Hultman]

Hey John, you may be forgetting this thread started as an inquiry, not a bad guy post.

Inquiry - Jeff Schofield?

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Anyone know this guy? I have an interest in thayeri and he is trying to sell some. He was very pushy with me, trying to get me to buy them sight unseen. I didn't appreciate his abrasive selling tactics, so, I called him a scam and told him I had no interest in purchasing any animals sight unseen. He became overwhelmingly deffensive, belittled me on several levels, of which, his favorite seems to be that "I am a no name punk". According to him, a person should just trust his word and buy snakes from him sight unseen because he has a very good reputation. And besides that, they are super nice animals, no tipping or anything. Of course, these are his claims and cannot be validated. For all I know, he may have some truly nice thayeri for sale???

Thanks,

Brad Alexander

I see perfect reason for such a post..... Obviously just like any other inquiry on the BOI, searching for information on an individual to whom he was communicating with regarding a possible transaction. He seemed questionable and it seems to me like a good use of this resource. According to the possible buyer, he may have seemed abrassive but he was still searching for information to say otherwise, or confirm his gut feelings.

Just figured you may have confused it with a bad guy post.

ttyl bud

It may have been posted as in Inquiry but he was alluding to him as a “Bad Guy” by post four with the reason being his email exchanges he posted on post #14.

Weak indeed, but I strongly agree with

I am however, glad it was started because it gave Jeff the opportunity to show his true colors here

 

[David Scarboro]

I am however, glad it was started because it gave Jeff the opportunity to show his true colors here

Amen!

 

[reptilebreeder]

Let's address the pics you just posted.

The first is a lousy pic of a reasonably average animal. Not bad but nothing to write home about.

The second is a poor pic of an above average specimen. A decent photo would demonstrate that without a doubt.

Did somebody change the links Brad posted? Cause I see two very average thayeri, when I click on the links. I gues it's one of those opinions are like as e's things....we all have one. Sorry, I like some of these new smilies.

 

[Brad Alexander]

Well, regardless of what one or more think of my reasoning for my post here, it seems obvious that Mr. Schofield purposely misrepresents himself. This is but one example of several that have been brought up; "they are way better than average" "no tipping". These animals are NOT way better than average and they are loaded with tipping.

The argument about my reasoning for my original post makes zero sense, especially when I did say that Mr. Schofield specifically asked me to look into him here (and posted the email where he says that). I don't know why there are a select few that wish to make me look like a bad guy along side the obvious someone whom obviously misrepresents the animals he is trying to sell. Mr. Schofield has shown his true colors, the argument that I should not have shown it here or that a baited him, or whatever, makes no difference, he is who he is, nothing more, nothing less. If anyone here wishes to defend Mr. Schofield by attacking me, be my guest, I certainly can't stop you. The bottom line is that I was correct in my opinion of this guy. This has been proven on several levels. So, stating that I did not have good cause to bring this subject to the BOI is absurd at best.

Brad Alexander