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Bad Guy Kevin manning of Leatherneck Boas

Im pretty sure I've revealed all the dirty layers so for the public to chop and skew at their disposal. This isnt about social acceptance. Its about business ethic, moral value and the thievery that is taking place in our hobby. Jackie you pushed to know the whole story. Why are you being so judgemental and negative? We really dont need personal opinions on lifestyles. The necessary facts have been presented.
 
Im sorry if the majority doesn't like what I have to say. I have smoked pot 4 times in the last 2 years. I kid you not. That means I smoke pot. You may be a porn star. He may manufacture drugs. Im not here to judge life choices. I'm here to present facts on a case about someone's collection in jeopardy. So from here on out this has nothing to do with drugs. It has solely to do with the matter at hand.
 
KOGarrison91 said:
Im pretty sure I've revealed all the dirty layers so for the public to chop and skew at their disposal. This isnt about social acceptance. Its about business ethic, moral value and the thievery that is taking place in our hobby. Jackie you pushed to know the whole story. Why are you being so judgemental and negative? We really dont need personal opinions on lifestyles. The necessary facts have been presented.
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I truly do not mean to come across as judgemental. I am simply trying to understand exactly what is going on. There has been so much innuendo involved (including drug use and associated debt) that I am having a difficult time understanding if the animals are being held hostage for monies owed for drugs, simple association with unsavory characters, or a pathetic vendetta for no apparent reason.
Once again, I do not mean any disrespect, it just seems, due to the insinuation, that there may be more to it than what is being said.
 
I wouldn't call it drug use for smoking marijuana, and monies owed are to mike Adams @ 200 and him and I (on the second arrangement after Kevin made up something else) were going to o a trade to clear the 200 and that part (the only money involved) would be settled. Kevin has nothing do do with this until he greed to send my boas back home then sent the money right back.. and now that mike hasn't chimed in at all on this but has been watching every post, makes me think since him n Kevin are great friends and live close, they have something going on together. Who knows, that's just speculation since he hasn't jumped on. Or maybe them two (other than sleeping being this late) just want my boas altogether and mike is letting Kevin take the fall. Again, speculation. Who knows. Hope that clears it up. No money, no drug use, ect ect
 
This is Brenda Bidinger and this childish activity has been blown up way out of proportion...I have been gone all day and got home late tonight and just read all of this crazy childish talk...Kevin is not going to take any boas to any pet shop, I will get this resolved as soon as i can and get Kenny his boas asap..
 
KOGarrison91 said:
This isnt about social acceptance....We really dont need personal opinions on lifestyles. The necessary facts have been presented.
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Nope, not about acceptance. And you're correct that this thread shouldn't continue to be disrupted by such things....though you did bring it here, and some of what you presented was far from necessary. Unless the marijuana is relevant to this thread, there is no reason to continue discussing it here. If the boa "cliche" is so enamored with the stuff, they can talk about it someplace else

* To be clear, there was no issue with the questions about how marijuana fit into this mess...I'm not discouraging RELEVANT questions/discussion
 
usmckmanning said:
I really hope your kids don't take after a drug addict and hope they don't loose there own kids to drugs. Make all the call you want. I won't loose any sleep over it. You say I am stealing snakes you you gave the boas to brenda and I. I told you I had to work and Mike couldn't come get the snakes and you can't come get them. What does that tell you? Sometimes it just doesn't work out. Also I hate you. I really hope your kids don't end up like you.
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So did he give them to you ( like you have stated so many times) or Brenda?

After reading the texts (especially where you encourage him go kill himself) and your responses here one can only come to the conclusion that you are a greedy liar, thief and bully who can not be trusted in any type of business transaction. Way to cut yourself off at the knees
 
So we have people stealing snakes, cheating on wife's, slut accusations, Facebook posts, lies about genetics, relations to others BOI threads, & drug use. I feel less like I just watched the Jerry Springer show. It's no wonder some people look down on the reptile community. Thanks almost everyone involved for letting me know never to do business with them in the future.
 
Durante said:
So we have people stealing snakes, cheating on wife's, slut accusations, Facebook posts, lies about genetics, relations to others BOI threads, & drug use. I feel less like I just watched the Jerry Springer show. It's no wonder some people look down on the reptile community. Thanks almost everyone involved for letting me know never to do business with them in the future.
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:thumbsup::thumbsup: Ding ding. :iagree::iagree:

Too much karma given today, sorry, Chris.
 
Durante said:
So we have people stealing snakes, cheating on wife's, slut accusations, Facebook posts, lies about genetics, relations to others BOI threads, & drug use. I feel less like I just watched the Jerry Springer show. It's no wonder some people look down on the reptile community. Thanks almost everyone involved for letting me know never to do business with them in the future.
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:iagree: Amen!

There are so many of us trying to earn the respect of the general business community, and then another dispute gets taken down to the "your mama" level, for thousands of people to see.
Sad.

Noelle
 
I have a life and can't be involved with all this DRAMA.. This whole thing is BS, i have my own issues with CHRISTOPHER BOAS.. yes kenny and I wkd out a deal where I get his abby in return I give him back the jingle I bought and pick up the snakes from kevin and ship them back to kenny, this would also clear the debt kenny owes me. I was unable to make it to kevins house these past 2wks myself, plus kevin is wking out of town on bussiness ( wk ) from 5am -8pm. All this he said she said is pointless. I don't know why kevin is holding kennys animals, I'm not his mother, further more I don't understand why kenny can't wait 3wks for kevin to get back from wk.. and yes I told kenny not to go on the BOI, as he stated and we agreed ipon was when he received his snakes all would be deleted and was never to speak of kevin, Brenda or I About this ever again. Kenny felt kevin was trying to steel from him and felt that 3 wks was to long to wait, so here we are. So kenny reneged on our deal! Othet then this, I shouldn't havr my name be slanderd on the BOI.. these two need to wk this out like grown men.. and its crap like this that kills the hobby for everyone...
 
mikeadams said:
I have a life and can't be involved with all this DRAMA.. This whole thing is BS, i have my own issues with CHRISTOPHER BOAS.. yes kenny and I wkd out a deal where I get his abby in return I give him back the jingle I bought and pick up the snakes from kevin and ship them back to kenny, this would also clear the debt kenny owes me. I was unable to make it to kevins house these past 2wks myself, plus kevin is wking out of town on bussiness ( wk ) from 5am -8pm. All this he said she said is pointless. I don't know why kevin is holding kennys animals, I'm not his mother, further more I don't understand why kenny can't wait 3wks for kevin to get back from wk.. and yes I told kenny not to go on the BOI, as he stated and we agreed ipon was when he received his snakes all would be deleted and was never to speak of kevin, Brenda or I About this ever again. Kenny felt kevin was trying to steel from him and felt that 3 wks was to long to wait, so here we are. So kenny reneged on our deal! Othet then this, I shouldn't havr my name be slanderd on the BOI.. these two need to wk this out like grown men.. and its crap like this that kills the hobby for everyone...
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So you're telling us that you were trying to coerce him into covering up Kevin Manning's slimy ways by keeping this all under wrap? Wow. You just took a serious hit to your character.

I am also curious to know where the "3 week" wait comes from when Kevin Manning plainly states he is dropping the snakes off at a pet store 5pm Wednesday.

I do seer some good coming out of this though..... there'll be way less competition when I start selling babies.
 
This is Brenda Bidinger and all of this childish talk needs to stop....This should have never been brought to BOI by Kenny......Kevin is going to send Kenny his Boas as soon as he gets back in town....Kenny just wants his Boas NOW and Kevin is not home at this time.....If there is a way to get Kenny's Boas to him sooner then we will do that......But in the mean time i just ask everyone to please stop commenting on this thread......

Thanks You......
 
I can see how u may think I look Bad covering up for kevin about the BOI post and I regret even texting this to kenny as kevin asked me to tell kenny if he gets his snakes not to go here... as kevin CLEARLY stated he's not going to lose sleep over this! Ask any of the 500 friends on FB about me and my demeanor and u will hear nothing but gd things from me. I have done no wrong by kenny and I'm upset I was even brought into this.. I felt I've cleared my name of any worng doing.. I'm done and staying out of this. Kenny and I talked to day about his snakes, I will hold my end of the deal if Brenda gets the snakes as I will pay for shipping...
 
Brendas Beautiful Boas said:
This should have never been brought to BOI by Kenny......
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Brenda, while I respect your opinion, I disagree. This kind of thing needs to be brought to the BOI. First off, from everything that has been posted, any debt owed was between you and Kenny, not Kevin. Secondly, as someone presenting themselves as a breeder in this hobby/community/industry, his actions and comments speak loudly about how he handles situations. I as a customer, choose not to do any business with him after seeing his replies, insults and behavior. From my point of view, if I paid him my hard earned money for a snake and then upset him by asking too many questions because I am a noob or requesting an unusual shipping manner, how would I know he wouldn't refuse to ship or send me my money back.

Brendas Beautiful Boas said:
Kenny just wants his Boas NOW and Kevin is not home at this time.....
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It has been proven in earlier posts that Kevin is in the general area and he himself stated that "someone" is watching his snakes. That "someone" could very easily meet you or Mike to deliver the snakes and end this. Also, think about what if someone else had your animals and you were worried about their condition/safety, I'm sure you'd want them now also.

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If there is a way to get Kenny's Boas to him sooner then we will do that......
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I'm sure the OP and those of us watching the situation appreciate anything you can do to help resolve the issue.


mikeadams said:
I can see how u may think I look Bad
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Mike, I appreciate you the fact that you are able to look at others perspectives and came forward with what you know, what you did and how you are willing to help resolve the issue.


mikeadams said:
... as kevin CLEARLY stated he's not going to lose sleep over this!
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That alone should be a red flag to those of you who consider him to be a friend/associate/aquaintance. It speaks of his character and how he treats people. While "you" (collectively several of the people that have posted in this matter) are clearly not the villain here, there is an old saying about birds of a feather... so if you don't want to be judged, be selective with whom you deal.


mikeadams said:
Ask any of the 500 friends on FB about me and my demeanor and u will hear nothing but gd things from me.
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I'm glad that you have had several good/great transactions and that people are satisfied with you and your animals. There is another saying my father taught me about working with people regardless of the occupation/hobby... "You can have 100 atta boys but 1 ah s%*t wipes them all away."


We are all hoping that you, Brenda or someone will post that the snakes are safe and that they are in process of being returned and that the debt owed you has been repaid.
 
I won't comment on this thread again, because I'd rather not become part of the problem. But seriously, some of you have completely inserted yourselves into this issue and need to just bow out of it now. This thread is completely muddled and it's next to impossible to grasp the actual issue with all of the mudslinging. I know some of you are friends with each other and really emotionally involved with this, but maybe you should take a step back and just let some of the outside parties offer some perspective.
 
****update**** I Mike Adams will be picking up kennys snakes friday nite or sat depending on kevins wk schedule. And will meet with Brenda to have them shipped this coming monday as I'm paying for shipping. Further more kevins wk did get in the way of kennys snakes being shipped 2wks ago. Kevin NEVER had plans on KEEPING or SELLING his sakes regardless of what he said, He did this to teach kenny a leasson and give him grief for what he had put kevin, Brenda and I Through since he's been down.no ones perfect and we all make mistakes, learn from them and move on. I've already contacted kenny about this tonight via phone call.
 
mikeadams said:
****update**** I Mike Adams will be picking up kennys snakes friday nite or sat depending on kevins wk schedule. And will meet with Brenda to have them shipped this coming monday as I'm paying for shipping. Further more kevins wk did get in the way of kennys snakes being shipped 2wks ago. Kevin NEVER had plans on KEEPING or SELLING his sakes regardless of what he said, He did this to teach kenny a leasson and give him grief for what he had put kevin, Brenda and I Through since he's been down.no ones perfect and we all make mistakes, learn from them and move on. I've already contacted kenny about this tonight via phone call.
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So, Kevin is a liar, vindictive and immature. Got it.

This is something he should have done from the get go.

I think the people involved in this mess should take a real hard look at who they choose to associate with.
 
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