Kingsnake problem, anyone else had this problem with classified account?

[Adam Block]

Okay Ritchie! Now I will give you some praise for finding something nobody else including myself could!

A resident agent of a NV corporation is the person who gets the mail, the person in charge of the articles of incorporation, and is basically a name to sue if something goes wrong. All corporations in NV must have a resident agent that lives in the state of NV.

The resident agent can't be sued for something the corp does. The resident agent is basicly hired for a fee of maybe $100-$500 a year to be there normal business hours so if the corp is sued the papers can be accepted or signed for by them.

As I said, this is very telling to me. NV corp doesn't mean you're up to no good but being up to no good means a NV corp if you catch my drift.

I said from the start she incorporated in NV and that was my thinking only because if I were up to no good I would have picked it and most do.

Not that we know much more about this person based on this facts but we do know a few things.

1) She incorporated I would assume to cover herself with the intention of doing something she shouldn't. Corps are not an extension of you like a normal business so if you ask me she felt like she would need to make sure she couldn't be touched for what the corp did.

2) She picked NV for a reason.

Well, regardless we still don't know nothing but to stay away from her before she can do any damage.

 

[Ken Foose]

The reason she picked Nevada is because to incorperate here is cheap, very cheap. It's also very easy, no background checks etc. And yes sir Mr. Block, it is to have papers served to sue in case something goes wrong. And yes sir, it is the resident agent that has his name on the law suit. And yes sir, I know this because I'm the resident agent of a corperation in Nevada, and I have had it sued, and I was named in the lawsuit along with it. Please don't correct me when you don't know what you are talking about pal. And, just because you incorperate in Nevada does not mean you are up to something shady either. It's because it's cheap and fast. I noted from Richies post that the business in question has been incorperated for less then a month. I would be interested in seeing who the shareholders of this business are. For tax and legal purposes, a LLC would have been the more logical way to go, and would have had the same effect as a corperation protection wise. A LLC is more geared for individuals, a corperation more for multi investors that own stock in the business, which would indicate more then one person with a financial interest in the business.

 

[brucestephenson]

Tens or hundreds of thousands of people incorporate in Nevada. If you will recall, at the height of the stock market boom, radio talk show hosts like that guy who used to drive taxis urged their listeners to incorporate in Nevada. It is definitely a legitimate financial strategy.
Besides, the U.S. Constitution guarantees freedom of association. Just because you know or do business with someone with a poor background or reputation does not mean you are that person, or are responsible for his misdeeds.

 

[Suncoast Herpetological]

The Articles of Incorporation should be available obline if someone has the time to dig them out. Generally the website is a page on the main State site. At least it works that way in Florida. All of that information is public record.

 

[Suncoast Herpetological]

The interesting thing is that according to the Nevada Secretary of States website, they did not file a list of officers at all. I wonder why? Due to the fact that the Corporation was only formed a few weeks ago, the Articles may not yet be available online but I am sure they will be in the near future. I tried both Savannah's and Jeff Millers names in the search engine under Officers of Corporations and came up blank.

This just gets better and better.

 

[MikeWilbanks]

Besides, the U.S. Constitution guarantees freedom of association. Just because you know or do business with someone with a poor background or reputation does not mean you are that person, or are responsible for his misdeeds

This is very true. The Constitution protects you from criminal prosecution because of an association. But, if the corporation has a shareholder or officer with a 2.4 million dollar judgement against him, then his shares can be seized as part of the satisfaction of the debt. Also, if Jeff Miller were a shareholder or officer of the Morphspecialties corporation, it would seem to support the front theory.

 

[Bob Clark]

Harassment

I have never harassed Savannah. Everyone has now seen every one of my emails to her. I've been polite and never raised my voice on the phone. She promised to call and talk this through but she didn't Instead she got a court order to keep me from contacting her. She cannot support her position on this thing and has gotten the court to stop the dialog rather than give me the information I want. My lawyer in Arizona says that this kind of court order can be had for the asking. There is no requirement of proof from Savannah. Savannah's Petition for Injunction against Harassemnt is a hand written form that mentions 3 emails on 10/21/03 and when asked on the form what harm might might come as a result of the injunction not being granted Savannah answered " harassment, theft, slander". She says on her web page that I threatened to take her animals, this is nonsense. If the court were to determine that the animals belonged to Jeff Miller, the court would take them on my behalf. I told Savannah that I meant her no harm and only had interest in her and "her" business if Miller was associated with it. She told me she didn't even know the name Jeff Miller.

A corporation can be formed in Arizona for $60. There may be some benefit for her to incorporate in Nevada. I don't know what it is. I see that Savannah has been on line through this discussion the last few days but she hasn't responded. She is under no obligation to respond but it does leave many questions unanswered and conclusions drawn from this may or may not be valid.

 

[W.Wedeking]

Legally, once she stated that she did not want you contacting her again, the minute you hit send, it was harrassment.

 

[HerpVenue]

Morph Specialties Inc., was started and is owned by me, Savannah Sernas; in the very hot state of Arizona. After a few years of working very hard to obtain the best connections we are finally able to offer you the very best in wild caught morphs. The Morph market has become very strong in the last 10 years due mainly to Ball Pythons. I value all your business and am willing to prove our quality. Though we feel our animals speak for themselves.

We specialize in all Pythons, Balls, Retics, Bloods, Burms etc. We also on occasion get morphs of all reptiles and amphibians. Let us know what you are looking for and with time there is a chance it will pop up. We almost exclusively deal with wild caught morphs unless they are “farm” hatched. We have all the main countries covered and can obtain morphs from all of them including Asia, Africa, and Central and South America.


Let me personally thank you for looking at our webpage and please keep in touch.

Savannah Sernas
Morph Specialties Inc.

Well someone already said it. AnyONE can incorporate.
She is 18. According to her She (We/US) have been working to on getting the best connections for YEARS.

At that age, the only thing I wanted to connect to was the opposite sex. And if I were to start a business......connecting with shady characters would have been the last thing on my mind. Unless of course one of thsoe connections was a shady character who was able to manipulate me.

Wow ....she is "connected" to some of the "finest" names in the industry.
While being connected to someone and having friends does not mean you are doing anything wrong.......it does however make you raise your eyebrows. Being connected to one person is kinda okay. Sometimes it happens...people do and will have friends. But being connected to two of those names does start raising some heads. Then also the fact of being in the same city (Buckeye) as another one of those names is not really relevant......Until the truth comes out and we finally know where all the "facts" stand.

Personally I would not have known how to get in touch with Anson Wong's wife. Unless of course I had "friends" like Miller.

Miller was indicted by the United States Court for the Northern District of California in January of 2000 on charges of smuggling wildlife and conspiracy.

I wonder who the WE and US is that she talks about in her website.

Charged with Wong in the San Francisco case are James Michael Burroughs, of San Francisco, Calif.; Beau Lee Lewis, of Buckeye, Ariz.; Jeffery Charles Miller, of Mesa, Ariz.; Robert G. Paluch, of Mesa, Ariz., and Yuk Wah "Oscar" Shiu, of Hong Kong, China. Burroughs has pleaded guilty to several charges and awaits sentencing; Wong's other co-defendants currently await trial.

I also wonder how many of these other names will surface.

I also wonder why the name of the person who shows up on that address is different from any other names.


Anyway this case is getting interesting to me.
And the players's list seems to be.....well.........I don't know

In addition to Wong, seven other defendants have been convicted or pleaded guilty to federal crimes associated with the smuggling ring. James Michael Burroughs, of San Francisco, pleaded guilty in 1999 to conspiracy and two felony smuggling charges in connection with his role as a human courier of smuggled animals in airline baggage. He awaits sentencing. Arizona reptile dealer Jeffery Charles Miller pleaded guilty in February 2001 to conspiracy and four smuggling violations in connection with his role in receiving FedEx shipments of animals from Wong and selling them to buyers in the United States. Miller will be sentenced later this summer. Arizona reptile dealer Beau Lee Lewis was convicted by a federal jury in March 2001 of 16 federal felonies, including conspiracy, money laundering, smuggling and wildlife offenses, in connection with his receipt of six smuggled FedEx shipments of animals from Wong in 1997 and 1998. Former FedEx employee Robert Paluch., tried along with Lewis, was convicted of four federal felonies, including conspiracy, smuggling and wildlife crimes, for his role in facilitating, with Lewis, the importation of FedEx shipments from Wong which contained smuggled animals. Lewis and Paluch will be sentenced on August 2. Arizona residents Brian Luebking and Nancy Mott also pleaded guilty to misdemeanor federal crimes in connection with their facilitation of the scheme and have been sentenced in the District of Arizona: both received fines and probation.. California reptile fancier Mark Biancaniello pleaded guilty to a federal felony wildlife offense for receiving smuggled animals from Wong. Biancaniello will be sentenced in San Francisco later this summer. A ninth individual, indicted with Wong and his U.S. associates, Yuk Wah "Oscar" Shiu, a Hong Kong resident who runs a wildlife import/export business in that city, is a fugitive.

I see that Savannah has been on line through this discussion the last few days but she hasn't responded.

Yes I know. The the page she had specially for you has disappeared. Maybe it is temporary maybe it is permanent. Maybe my comments of who is really harrassing who made her think. Maybe Jeff told her to leave you alone so he does not involve you any further. Maybe maybe maybe. We will never know.

Perhaps Savannah would like to clear up some of the questions raised.

Someone here says I should ask you some questions. Don't know what to ask really. Your stories seem pretty straight forward. And the questions I had if any seems to have already been answered.

 

[Suncoast Herpetological]

Posted by Wendy


"Legally, once she stated that she did not want you contacting her again, the minute you hit send, it was harrassment."

Not always Wendy. There are several exceptions to that rule such as debt collection.

 

[W.Wedeking]

That only applies if it is the person who owes the debt. She does not, and apparently a Judge agrees with that because she has a restraining order. Even with collections there are legal parameters within which you have to work and going outside of those parameters puts you at risk of losing what is owed.

I gather from the very specific wording that Savannah has in her emails to Bob, that she has sought legal council.

For $2 million I would think it would be in Bob's best interest to hire a collection agency and let them handle it. If I am not mistaken, they work on a commission basis/percentage of what they collect.

 

[reticpaul73]

A restraining order has nothing to do with whether or not the judge agrees that she owes nothing. The restraining order is simply applied due to the aledged harrassment by an individual. Everything else is for another venue. I really wish this could've been handled better.

Paul Snyder

 

[W.Wedeking]

It wouldn't be harrassement if he had "legitimate business" with her.

 

[HerpVenue]

I gather from the very specific wording that Savannah has in her emails to Bob, that she has sought legal council.

You noticed that too?
And I thought I was just seeing things.
It seems someone is in the background telling her what to do as well as what to say. This is truly getting very interesting.


I still think when she says we have been working for years to get the best connections.................my gut feeling is the we is not really Savannah. The we is someone else. The we is the person who told her to get a restraining order. The we is the person who told her to get in contact with Wong's wife. (Am I right Jeffrey CHarles Miller?.........yeah I am talking to you. ESP (gut) tells me you are reading this. Anyway see you when I get back home to Arizona)

Maybe I am just immature.
But at 18 I did not know how to start a business. Someone (maybe the we and the us) would have to be there to hold my hand. Someone would have to tell me what paperwork to file etc etc. Someone would have to hand me their little black book of connections.

I am also stuck.
Knowing one person can be okay.
Knowing two raises some eye brows.
Having connections to the same two who were both busted for smuggling....raises more eyebrows. But if they were in the same town could be okay. but these two are on opposite sides of the world. Coincidence?.........could be. But my gut......my BIG GUT tells me otherwise.

 

[reticpaul73]

She is 18. According to her She (We/US) have been working to on getting the best connections for YEARS.

Savannah is obviously a prodigy when it comes to entrepreneurialship. Her website also indicates that she has followed the reptile market over the last decade. I wish I had her business-sense when I was 8 years old! But getting those great importing "contacts" right out of highschool that's the real trick!

Paul Snyder

 

[Rob @ RK Reptiles]

As I have written in an earlier post Savannah wrote me and told me that they imported some of the first Chondros. Well this is really interesting as Chondros were imported into the US in the 70's first. So how was she able to import some of the first Chondros when she was not even alive is another question I am interested in the answer of. When I wrote her privately about it and asked her how long she has been importing she would not write me back. This entire situation seems "off" to me but then again it could be just me:laugh:

 

[W.Wedeking]

I agree, some one is in the background telling her what to say.
I would think that if she wasn't who she said she was, she would not have been able to get a restraining order. This is a legal proceeding by which you must appear before a judge (I believe), so you do have to have legal ID.

On the one hand, she could be getting advice from very nurturing parents who could have also funded her business venture.

On another hand, she could also be getting advise from a close friend or aquaintence.

Never the less, the wording was very specific in her emails and should have set off red flags immediately.

 

[Adam Block]

The reason she picked Nevada is because to incorperate here is cheap, very cheap. It's also very easy, no background checks etc. And yes sir Mr. Block, it is to have papers served to sue in case something goes wrong. And yes sir, it is the resident agent that has his name on the law suit.

You say it as if you know why she incoporated there? Many other States are as cheap if not cheaper.

So you're telling me that a resident agent can lose money in a lawsuit against the corp? I've never heard of this, being named in the suit may me a legal issue but I never knew they could have a judgement against them.

Also, why does NV have the highest Corp. audit rate of any State? Cause people incorporate there to do no good!

As I said, I think a corp is a verp smart thing and I'm not saying anything negitive about owning one. I'm saying in this situation I think she was up to no good.

 

[HerpVenue]

Nurturing parents who told her to give someone else's address.
Because there are other Sernas in Buckeye.
but none of them have the address she gave on that website.

I too noticed how she said the following the markets for decades thing.
At eight I was following girls. at 18 I was following girls.
At kindergarten i was following girls. I was in the market for girls.
I guess you can say I was following the market too.

If she really had nurturing parents. They would have told her to take her @$$ to college instead of starting a business with her boyfriend or whoever he really is to her.

(Note I did not say her boyfriend was you Jeffrey...................just to let you know....I too like em young......so comeon Jeffrey. Come out of the wood work. You do not have to be scared of Bob Clark. he is a pu$$y cat...a sweetheart........you have nothing to worry about with him...............come out and talk to me.........move her away from the keyboard and type to me............I don't bite)

 

[DThomas]

Also, the zip code given is not Buckeye (makes me think it's just the wrong address or something) and the arial photo of the house well, shows nothing. Not that I thought it would but I wanted to look.

The zip code is correct according to the deed of trust filed on 01/05/99 with the Maricop County Recorder's Office. The deed is in the name of Jamie and Brenda St Vincent, a husband and wife. They have records recorded back into the '80's so it would appear they are an older couple. Maybe grandparents?