Bad Guy Mike Gugliotta - Owes us $5k

[Ed Clark]

When Mr. Luzzi attempted to contact me,I felt it unethical to speak to him about Mr. Breens' buisness as I did not know Mr. Luzzi and had never spoken to him before.

Mr Luzzi is it true that you have never done business with Mr Gugliotta?

 

[REPTILEMANIA]

FINALLY, THANKS

 

[Ed Clark]

We (Wonderful World Pet Suppliers Inc.) have extended $5,000 USD in advance payment to Michael Gugliotta.

Mr Luzzi will you please post proof of your payment to Mr Gugliotta and explain who made the deal and who authorized a $5000.00 payment to Mr Gugliotta.

Thanks in advance for your cooperation.

 

[ophidile]

Mr Luzzi will you please post proof of your payment to Mr Gugliotta and explain who made the deal and who authorized a $5000.00 payment to Mr Gugliotta.

Thanks in advance for your cooperation.

The emails in posts one and the wells fargo statement in post 4 seem to have all this.

 

[bobtard]

Mr Luzzi will you please post proof of your payment to Mr Gugliotta and explain who made the deal and who authorized a $5000.00 payment to Mr Gugliotta.

Thanks in advance for your cooperation.

Are you some super BOI mod hero now?

 

[SirenSanJose]

Mr Luzzi is it true that you have never done business with Mr Gugliotta?

Even if Kevin has never directly interacted before with Michael, he is an employee of Wonderful World Pet Supply, and is authorized to make transactions on behalf of the company -- as one of the two co-owners stated early on in the thread.

Although I know David and Tom and have dealt with them directly, I've also bought, and sold, to Wonderful World using Kevin as my point of contact when Dave or Tom were unavailable.

What in the world seems "off" to you, Ed--or to Micheal, for that matter--for an authorized representative of a company to conduct business in said company's name?

 

[Ed Clark]

We (Wonderful World Pet Suppliers Inc.) have extended $5,000 USD in advance payment to Michael Gugliotta.

Kevin Luzzi is being used as a puppet here.

What in the world seems "off" to you, Ed--or to Micheal, for that matter--for an authorized representative of a company to conduct business in said company's name?

Why would the principles of this business who are allegedly out 5k send someone else to start a bad guy thread for them?

Why would they not file charges with that amount of money?

Something smells fishy and its not the wild caught stink pots I smell!!

 

[Wilomn]

Something smells fishy and its not the wild caught stink pots I smell!!

Of that I have no doubt.

 

[Ed Clark]

Are you some super BOI mod hero now?

Don't hate the player.

My views may be different then yours and others but a different point of view may turn up something you can not see.

I believe the owners of Wonderful World Pet Suppliers Inc. are trying to hide something. otherwise they would have taken legal action for such a large amount of money.instead they send their lacky to try to get satisfaction.

 

[bobtard]

"Terrible post that shows you as a hater!!"

I'm not a hater, I just hate you.

 

[Morelia4life]

Come on guys, try to stay on topic. If someone has a different opinion that is fine. Everyone's opinion about the situation will not be the same. Whatever is going on, I hope it gets resolved.

 

[WebSlave]

Yeah, one of the guys is circling the drain for a 1 year ban if he continues with the off topic sniping. Enough, please....

 

[ophidile]

Don't hate the player.

My views may be different then yours and others but a different point of view may turn up something you can not see.

I believe the owners of Wonderful World Pet Suppliers Inc. are trying to hide something. otherwise they would have taken legal action for such a large amount of money.instead they send their lacky to try to get satisfaction.

I really don't understand this; you've been on here long enough to see that even for this amount, "legal action" is more expensive than coming to an amicable resolution privately, and doesn't guarantee the funds or stock will be recovered anyway.

It seems perfectly reasonable to me that a store employee/partner/whatever who's more familiar with the BOI might decide to post here.

And again you haven't acknowledged whether you wanted additional info than was already posted.

So far OP has provided "proof" or at least undisputed email texts and a screengrab from a wells fargo statement. Mike Gugliotta on the other hand has provided no proof of this alternate agreement, and also has a track record of being years late on musk turtles XP

 

[Ed Clark]

I really don't understand this; you've been on here long enough to see that even for this amount, "legal action" is more expensive than coming to an amicable resolution privately, and doesn't guarantee the funds or stock will be recovered anyway.

No not always, someone trying to hide something will shy away from legal action.

It seems perfectly reasonable to me that a store employee/partner/whatever who's more familiar with the BOI might decide to post here.

We have seen it before here an employee posting for their boss, it was not well received. I believe the person that made the deal should be here posting the info instead of him relaying info that is sometimes translated incorrectly.where is the line drawn with people without first hand knowledge making bad guy threads about someone?Kevin Luzzi did not ever do any business with Mike Gugliotta yet he is posting like he has.

So far OP has provided "proof" or at least undisputed email texts and a screengrab from a wells fargo statement.

A memo line on a wells fargo statement is proof? I would like to see something payable to Mike Gugliotta.

I specifically asked Kevin Luzzi if he has ever done any business ever with Mike G.and he has not replied.

 

[Ameivaboy]

Ed, calling me a puppet and a lacky? Saying you think our company is hiding something?

Funny coming from someone with a reputation like yours don't you think?

I posted this because I know the rules of the BOI and I am the one who uses Fauna.

Dave and Tom both do not use fauna classifieds - Dave doesnt even have an account.

My purpose here isn't to get into pissing matches with the likes if you - I'm doing my job - and if you think the company I work for being out $5K doesnt't affect me as an employee then you'd be quite mistaken.

Dave will be attempting to get into contact with Mike today- and I will be going back to enjoying my day off - drama free

Cheers!!

 

[Ed Clark]

Ed, calling me a puppet and a lacky? Saying you think our company is hiding something?

Dave and Tom both do not use fauna classifieds - Dave doesnt even have an account.

Kevin let me ask this 1 more time.

Have you personally ever done business with Mike Gugliotta?

Maybe its time for Dave and Tom to start talking about their business with Mike Gugliotta then possibly something may be resolved.

 

[Ameivaboy]

Ed,

You mis quoted me - how charming that you left out this part of what I said:

Funny coming from someone with a reputation like yours don't you think?

No - I did not have a personal transaction with Mike.

I am posting on behalf of WWPS Inc. If the moderators feel I am in violation of the rules for starting this thread on behalf of the company I work for - then I will be notified by them (not you Ed) of this violation and the thread will be removed.

The only goal here is to get Mikes attention in an attempt to get the money back.


Not to have some 300 page pissing match with you or anyone else Ed.

 

[WebSlave]

Kevin let me ask this 1 more time.

Have you personally ever done business with Mike Gugliotta?

Maybe its time for Dave and Tom to start talking about their business with Mike Gugliotta then possibly something may be resolved.

Ed, please show me in the rules where it has been stated that ONLY people having direct transactions and/or experience with the parties involved in incidents brought to the BOI are the ONLY ones deemed eligible to post here. Or, failing that, please show me ANY instance where I have stated that as a requirement for participation in the BOI. I don't believe that I have, but if so, please enlighten me.

Perhaps I am entirely missing your point, but regardless, please don't make statements here claiming or inferring that you can make up your own rules of engagement in this forum that others are obligated to obey.

 

[Ed Clark]

Ed, please show me in the rules where it has been stated that ONLY people having direct transactions and/or experience with the parties involved in incidents brought to the BOI are the ONLY ones deemed eligible to post here. Or, failing that, please show me ANY instance where I have stated that as a requirement for participation in the BOI. I don't believe that I have, but if so, please enlighten me.

Have never seen any rules pertaining to that.

Perhaps I am entirely missing your point, but regardless, please don't make statements here claiming or inferring that you can make up your own rules of engagement in this forum that others are obligated to obey.

I did not see Mike G ever responding to Kevin L as he had nothing to do with the deal, I hoped if I could get the owners to start posting that would start a dialog with whoever Mike G did the deal with then hopefully reach a settlement of some sort.

 

[Ed Clark]

Oops did not mean to be so colorful with that post.