Bad Guy Mike Matson of Mike's Phat Frog is a scammer !!

[312Herps]

I don't understand how NARBC allows people like this to vend at their show.I would revoke his vendor pass since he likes to use coming to the Tinley show as a menacing tactic to threaten people's livelihood.

 

[ballchick90]

I also had an unsavory experience with mike. Bought 3 pacs from him, one arrived DOA and he said he'd give me a $22 store credit. I paid $110 shipped for three frogs. One never ate and I had to force feed earthworm chunks. He never really thrived and died. The third one seemed to have a neuro issue or something, fliping upside down and also died. I bought pacs from pat who are doing just fine. When I asked mike later if he had any deals going on so I could use my credit he said contact Pat because he was out of everything. He wouldn't even let me use a $22 store credit, how low is that... Will never buy from again.

 

[4FineFrogs]

Looks like Karma is knocking on Mike's door. It's about darn time.

 

[Black Adder]

Looks more and more like just another punk who was in it to try and make a quick buck.
Zero actual care or interest in his own animals or anybody elses satisfaction.
What goes around comes around....

 

[Wilomn]

I just bought 4 frogs from Mike Matson. Two smaller than a quarter and two that are 2". Recieved on 9/3/15. The smaller one died within a few days. The second smaller one is not eating. I force fed. But not regurgitated food from before. The other two big ones are fine. I have 8 pacmans. 2 small ones I bought from pet store and paid less are doing excellent. I paid him $120 plus shipping and never was told the size of these frogs. I was told a good breeder don't sell them this small. I don't work and was a gift for me and is just ending up being a headache. I'm very upset

Who was it that gave you the information on what size frog a good breeder sells?

 

[ElexisC]

I must say after all of this I have changed my mind. From what I've seen on facebook (not in groups because we aren't in the same groups, obviously where some of the info was pulled from) he seemed like a stand up guy. Seeing several animals dying etc... he will be deleted from my Facebook after seeing all of this. Just wow..

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[knucklesreptiles]

You don't sell.....well let's say I don't think you should sell a frog that small. That's like selling a snake soon as it hatches. Let it get a full meals and a lil size before selling. Not knocking the guy cause I haven't bought from here but it's just to much coming out about frogs dying fast or doa.

 

[Herpguy11]

The biggest problem is that the small frogs he's selling aren't even a result of not getting a few good meals in before they are shipped off. They are intentionally starved as tadpoles so that their growth is stunted.

 

[SamuraiJapanReptiles]

Warning to Mike Matson of Mike's Phat Frogs

It comes to my attention that you, Mike Matson of Mike’s Phat Frogs, are posting a terribly false accusation on your Facebook page and awfully hurting my reputations. You probably received the court order to pay me. Is it why you are upset and attacking me? Just so clear to everyone, you told me numerous lame excuses and your color enhancement excuse made me so laugh that you just showed your lack of reptile/amphibian breeding knowledge. Did you look up what “brown out” is after you met my lawyer? I also feel that I should educate you that Japan and Taiwan are deferent countries. I don’t know about Taiwan’s laws, but misrepresentation of products is also illegal in Japan. I have never seen the color enhancement agent and you are actually the very first person who told me about the color enhancement agent, very inspiring. lol STOP spreading false accusations on my business and hurting my business and reputations. if you continue, I am sadly choose to take further actions.

P.S. If you are presenting to sell “healthy” frogs on your business, you may want to take out “healthy” term. Because it may get you trouble for misrepresentation of products. I know many of your customers have complained about frogs bought from you.

 

[312Herps]

This is in now way a surprise that Mike is slandering people's business' and name. He seems to not have any care for consequence and continues on his FB rants of belittling more people in the industry who he feels in some way owe it to him to be thankful for the diseased animals he is selling them. He says he will be working the Sandfire Dragon Ranch booth at the Tinley N.A.R.B.C. along side of his great friend BOB who is obviously supportive of his actions as he continues to allow Mike to do business through their company currently. I have messaged people in charge at Tinley about Mike's menacing remarks about coming to Tinley and the threats he likes to make. Hopefully they'll revoke Mike's vendor pass and help him realize that this isn't the proper way to conduct business. I'm so glad I made this thread which gave some people who Mike has victimized the medium and possibly some courage to come forth with their stories of sick animals and psychotic threats from this unstable kid.

I sent Mike the frogs May 26 2015 . Here we are 4 months later not one penny sent of the $2250 he owes me and all we're seeing is more people coming forth and opening up about Mike ripping them off and how he's being sued by the gentleman who posted above this post. I wonder how all the people who have been defending him feel now that it's not just a person they have personal grudges towards finally outing Mike.
Mike Matson will always be trash and not someone to be trusted at his word, he is a scammer ,a theif, and a liar

 

[4FineFrogs]

Mike is the exact reason I will NEVER purchase frogs from Sandfire (or Mike himself) ever again. I am very disturbed, quite frankly, that Mr. Mailloux would still associate himself with Mr. Matson, Jr., given the circumstances. I used to recommend Sandfire highly to everyone, but no more... not given Bob's unholy business union with the poster boy of "Caveat Emptor". More's the pity as I love Sandfire's WTF morphs, but it is what it is.

 

[Herpguy11]

I wonder if Bob Mailloux and Phillipe de Vosjoli know that Mike constantly name drops them? He's always talking about "My friend Phillipe".

 

[312Herps]

I wonder if Bob Mailloux and Phillipe de Vosjoli know that Mike constantly name drops them? He's always talking about "My friend Phillipe".

I'm pretty sure they know, they probably just don't care. Ariel and Mike both namedrop Phillipe all the time. Ariel even went as far as to ask Phillipe (when he barely even knew him) to be the godparent to his kids in order to try and solidify a place in the reptile industry... what kind of LOSER does that


I told Ship You Reptiles that he was shipping frogs without any insulation in the boxes and that he was sending sick frogs out left and right , but because they had a personal vendetta with me they replied to me " That thread makes you look ridiculous and litigious. Take your drama somewhere else. You are mistaken if you think we are going to "back you up". You self burned that bridge some time ago." because I treated their company poorly when they lost several , several of my packages. I guess I was wrong for being mad that they wouldn't answer phones for a day when they lost my geckos


I told Brian Potter who runs Tinley NARBC what was going on and this was the response I got " We won't be getting in the middle of this but anything short of perfect behavior will not be tolerated. Nobody is going to harm anyone else at our shows."

So apparently as long as your filling show owners and shipping companies pockets with chump change you can threaten whomever you like as a vendor and ship in whatever conditions you feel like without any responsibility for consequence. What a great hobby. Stuff like this is why I haven't gone to Tinley in over 2 years , another show to gouge your pockets with overpriced animals ... Also why I don't use SYR for my animals , real professional companies don't hold grudges and compensate their clients for things like losing their packages. Not

 

[4FineFrogs]

Name dropping is so juvenile... reminds me of little kids saying their dad is a cop or a ninja, or whatever, to show off or intimidate other kids.

I've run across this same thing when trying to warn people about Mike elsewhere. People are all head up about "getting in the middle", or whatever, so just don't want to be involved; part of that intimidation thing I'm sure. I refer to it as being on the "Wussy Wagon".

I have an unboxing video of those frogs Mike sent me on YouTube... NO Styrofoam at ALL, and just a wadded up lump of soggy paper towels in the container with them, so you aren't the only one with complaints about that. Good for the heads up on SYR btw.

 

[Herpguy11]

Mike Matson continues to harass me via Facebook messages despite me not responding. It is very clear that he gets off on conflict. He just sent me another message now. This has happened for several months. I have not blocked him because I was curious how long he would keep sending me messages when I don't even respond.

His actions further solidify how he is a very immature person, and very bad businessman.

 

[4FineFrogs]

Would love to see what would happen if a whole bunch of people he's screwed over "met him for coffee" all at the same time... let the good times roll there!

 

[SamuraiJapanReptiles]

Warning to Mike Matson of Mike's Phat Frogs#2

I wouldn’t dare claim myself as “the most experienced breeder in the USA with Samurai blue pacman frogs” if I were you. Let’s get it straight. You have spent about $15,000 in total, including the unpaid $3,900 in January 2015, with me. This $15,000 was not only for Samurai blue pacmans, but also for lime green albino, apricot albino, mutants, stolzmanni, and aurita. The amount you spent just for Samurai blue pacman was only about $6,000. It’s a quite bit of money, but it’s questionable amount of investment to claim as “the MOST experienced breeder in the USA with Samurai blue pacman frogs”, in my opinion. I have several customers in the USA spending more than you. Oh, as a side note, I know the fact you sold the Samurai Blue pacman babies I sold you to other people. So, really how much did you invest for breeding Samurai pacmans?

As your friend, I spent so much time with you explaining and advising how to successfully breed Samurai pacmans, starting with how to sex them. Because you were unsuccessful, you started defaming me and my business. It’s a shame. I am tired of explaining to you, since you seemed not listening. But I don’t mind explaining to other people who may see this:

We happened to breed our first peppermint green pacman about 15 years ago. The first peppermint was not as blueish green as now, but it was brighter and blueish than the green pacmans in the USA at that time, therefore we started calling it “peppermint”. We started selective breeding them to make more blue tinted colored pacmans. As we produced more and more blue pacmans, we started seeing different color mutations as they grows. At first, the color mutations we got the most was grayish purple. Then, we realized the blue pacman mutation was less yellow pigment, and the result of lack of yellow pigment is the grayish purple mutation. Generally, amphibian and fish genetic inheritance is more complicated to explain than reptiles. When you breed grayish purple x grayish purple pacmans, you are most likely not getting grayish purple, but will have peppermint or samurai pacmans. Thus, we do call mutants, not morph. But just like you breed high quality colored morphs (such as super hypo tangerine leopard geckos) to get more odds for higher color morphs, the odds to have more Samurai or color mutation will be higher when you breed samurai x samurai, mutant x mutant, or samurai x mutant. About 4 years ago, we also started seeing mutants as babies, not just as juveniles or adults. All colored mutants and Samurai you see in the USA today carries the original peppermint green bloodline. When I decided to introduce my pacmans to the USA, I named the highest grade blue pacmans as “Samurai Pacman” for a marketing purpose. The definition of high grade in our sense is brighter blue color and less patterns. Out of 1000 peppermint pacmans, we can sell only 100 to 250 pacmans as Samurai (average about 20%). We sell only Samurai and don’t sell peppermint in the US or other counties because peppermint is not profitable due to the shipping cost.

I advised Mike to use the higher grade Samurai, to use manured adults, and to feed the tadpoles every 3 hours (8 times a day) for successful breeding. No matter what I advised you, I have no control over how you breed your frogs. You never invested on the higher grade Samurai. I saw your frogs breeding photos and you were using immature frogs for breeding. I saw you were selling very small baby frogs at the Supershow and also pictures that other people showed me. Even our tadpoles are bigger than your baby frogs. I also explained Mike about brownout, which yellow pigments come out as most animals grow up. The well-known examples are ball pythons, fat-tail geckos, leopard geckos, etc. Yellow pigments come out more when a specimen’s growth is slow. I have no control over how you feed your frogs, but I am skeptical that you were feeding your frogs well. It’s quite funny that I never received a complain from my customers for brownout or unsuccessful breeding of Samurai, except you, who claim as the most experienced breeder in the USA with Samurai blue pacman frogs.

So what is your basis of accusetion on color enhancement agent in my frogs and pacman food? Whatever your taiwanese friend or the largest producer of pacman frogs in the world said, it doesn’t prove that I used these agents or powder on my frogs or food. Did they actually state you that I used those products? I told you that you were welcomed to buy my frogs and pacman food to take to a lab and formally tested. You keep bringing up a lawsuit is coming. Why didn’t you do that in the court to repudiate the balance? Why did you wait until the court judgement and starting false accusation? Your suggested simple “solution” doesn’t sound work with your lack of experience and knowledge of samurai pacman breeding. I am tired of hearing your whining but won’t let you and your groupies continue defamation on my business.

P.S. You claimed that you did not produce offspring that were blue like themselves. But didn’t you sell the samurai pacmans as “super blue” and told your customers that you bred them in last January? Hmmm, something doesn’t add up… Oh, is it coincident that you bought Samurai pacmans from me after the Supershow in last January? BTW, you were misinformed by your friend. I am NOT interested in your whatever frogs. Why would I get your sick frogs and take a risk to contaminate my stock? Or is this another lie?

 

[312Herps]

By the way this message is for Mike since I know he's still aware of the conversation. Do you remember the blue mutant that died a couple days after being here that you sold me for $700+ ?? I now know you purchased it from Yusuke for around $200 I showed him the photo . You aren't only a deadbeat breeder , a liar , and a thief , but you can also add flipper to the list ... It's unfortunate what you've done to your father's legacy from what I hear he was a stand up guy too bad he didn't rub off on you enough to make you a man of your word. Please stop acting like a thug Malibu's Most Wanted , you don't scare anybody in the least and I hope when you're at Tinley the names you decide to drop on here come pay you a visit. Maybe that'll teach you to not involve people that have nothing to do with situations

Still waiting for all your friends that are going to show up to the thread Mike .. My ex ? Where is she ?

How about the zombie that's trying to feed you info on FB ? why hasn't she come to your rescue ?

Of course They're just like Ariel's police report about the hacking break in at his work. NEVER GOING TO SHOW UP

I know you don't have to provide proof , but it's stack up pretty high against you here Mike ... All over $2250

Hope it was worth it Mike.

 

[4FineFrogs]

Um, I don't know anything about his father personally, but according to some other BOI posts re: Mikey Jr, his pop wasn't exactly "a stand up guy" either... something about the apple not falling very far from the tree. Like I say, I don't know him, I only know what was posted by people who did.

 

[312Herps]

From what I hear at least his father tried to right his wrongs when it came to money , but if that couldn't be further from the truth it wouldn't surprise me .That might be where she learned it.