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Mike Shoemaker, Rebel Dragons -- Great Guy!!

I will be posting my thoughts on Mike shortly in regard to a telephone conversation we had together not too long ago.

For the time being...Mike if youre reading....can you please remove the link to my website from your webpage? I would apprecaite it greatly.
 
critical bill said:
Mike if youre reading.....
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He is.

For a moment stand up and do what's right.

Mike, I know you are using your mother’s name to view this thread. Stop the games. Log off and log on your screen name.

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Viewing Thread Mike Shoemaker, Rebel Dragons -- Great Guy!!

We are coming to a fork in the road. Do the right thing now and admit your shortcomings or you are going to have a hard fall.

How would you prefer it?
 
South Dixie Dragons said:
Dennis & Jim,

Can you all post screen shots of the IP information on this thread?
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I believe most know how I feel about the BOI. I hold this forum in high regard. That also goes without question members here. Even with those I disagree with on occasion.

Sorry, No. I will not respond to that question until Mike either confirms or denies my post.
 
South Dixie Dragons said:
Dennis & Jim,

Can you all post screen shots of the IP information on this thread?
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I based my post on information provided to me by Dennis Hultman who has no dog in this fight, and is beyond reproach.

Mike, we know you have been reading this thread. It's time to say something.
 
I had a long talk on the phone with Mike lastnight and he seemed like a good guy

Mike and i have our differences but at least he tries to be civil on our conversations
I find it hard to beleive that he was doing those things that he is Accused of
 
Dennis1 said:
I had a long talk on the phone with Mike lastnight and he seemed like a good guy

Mike and i have our differences but at least he tries to be civil on our conversations
I find it hard to beleive that he was doing those things that he is Accused of
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That's the kiss of death Mike, when you're being defended by Fauna's number one troll. Consider who else he has defended recently.
 
Jim O said:
That's the kiss of death Mike, when you're being defended by Fauna's number one troll. Consider who else he has defended recently.
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Look Jim I dont want to turn this thread into a circus
So could you PLEASE try to refrain from Provoking me?
 
whoa, Whoa, WHOA

Wow, sounds like a lot of "he said she said" "He said He said" What is this, the Jerry Springer of fauna???

Mike, do you have anything to add to this nightmare..........I've never spoken to you or done business with you either, however, based on the good folks that have posted here so far.........what in the world are you thinking??? Care to share?? Or is it just fine and dandy to post and read under false names?? Funny, I could have sworn that you jumped all over another member of this board for the same thing?? Tisk, tisk................

Dennis H. once again you prove to us that you are a well respected and ethical member of fauna!! Good investigative work my friend!!
 
Jim O said:
That's the kiss of death Mike, when you're being defended by Fauna's number one troll. Consider who else he has defended recently.
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It's not the kiss Jim. The relationship has been culminated (which in THIS particular instance is really telling) and the sound you hear is dirt hitting mikey's coffin.

Ever vigilant must be the way.
 
Ok...two cups of coffee in the system so here we go....

A short while back I had given Mike some flack regarding a post or two. Nonsense stuff that occurred in "Hell" I believe. I really ticked him off. It never developed into anything greater, both of us leaving each other alone to play quietly. A short time after that I noticed a thread about Mikes mom being sick and hospitalized. I felt terrible knowing that I had pestered him during such a difficult time in his life. I PMed Mike immediately and apologized immensely for behaving like a real jerk. I offered him an ear if he wanted to talk. I received an email a short time after that from Mike requesting my phone number because he needed to talk to me. We spoke for about an hour, maybe longer, all the while apologizing and explaining to Mike that he should really not put any weight into anything I might have written to infuriate or insult him. He was deeply hurt and disturbed about some of the things I had written. He forgave me and we laughed at all the crazy stuff we see going on in the hobby. I asked where he was currently living as it appeared his location had changed in his fauna sign on name. He told me that his job relocated him from our home state of PA to AZ. I immediately extended myself yet again, telling Mike that I would gladly drive out to his Moms home or hospital to offer his mother any assistance I could. I thought...this must be hard on him to be in AZ while his mom lay sick so far away. He said he had it all under control and thanked me for the offer.

He then mentioned he would like to place a link to my site on his website and I said that was fine.We then began to talk about his bearded dragons and that is where I began to feel a bit annoyed with some of the things he was saying.

He stated that just recently he noticed a baby dragon had died from a clutch that had just hatched out, that because he was unable to feed them due to money being very tight, it died from starvation. He was forced to "freeze" all the remaining hatchlings before they all died from starvation. I was a bit baffled why anyone would freeze live stock rather then surrender the stock to someone who could care for them. Why? Why would anyone resort to freezing animals to death? Is that a better fate than leaving them at the door step of a humane society? Even if the fate of the dragons were the same...certainly I'm thinking they would have been offered a more humane method of euthanasia. Freezing to death just doesn't sound like fun to me.

Anyway....check it out....about two weeks after all this Mike emails me with a good deal on a small lot of dragons that he recently hatched out.

WTF? Kill some sell some? I just washed my hands of it all and figured this is one very confused boy.

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Mike if you're reading I'd like to know why you lied to me. Why are you continuing to produce dragons when you have to kill whole litters because you cant feed them?

And last...did you also lie when you stated that things were so bad recently? That you and your younger brothers and sisters were eating ALPO dog food for dinner? Do you know how much crap my wife gave me for busting your chops thinking you were so down and out? Do you know she wanted to send you money but I told her you were sending me a 100 geckos that I agreed to pay whatever the hell you wanted for them? Just to help you out! Whatever happened to those geckos you were sending? Did you not need the money to feed your dragons or your brothers and sisters?

I offered you my hand and a sincere apology and you offered me lie after lie.
 
I'm totally and completely speechless.

That, and Rich would probably have my butt banned for the few things that are going through my mind that I COULD say....so I shall sit back and wait for Mike to explain this all away.
 

At this point,
I am withdrawing my positive Good Guy Certification for Mike for an earlier deal.

Dennis Hultman, MatthewM, Rebel Dragons, Saladragon, PaulSage, Dennis1, Bar None Reptiles, Jim O, Dachiu, Clearwater_Reptiles, brucestephenson
 
Just to let everyone waiting know. I am going to respond to this tomorrow . I am not going to "come out of the gates" saying things I don't mean and can't stand behind. It will take some time to properly think everything through and prepare.
 
Rebel Dragons said:
Just to let everyone waiting know. I am going to respond to this tomorrow . I am not going to "come out of the gates" saying things I don't mean and can't stand behind. It will take some time to properly think everything through and prepare.
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Mike,
It’s a very simple question.

Did you post the feedback on the other site under the screen name, bigmanjulio?

If you admit to it, I will have no reason to particpate in this thread.
 
Dennis Hultman said:
Mike,
It’s a very simple question.

Did you post the feedback on the other site under the screen name, bigmanjulio?

If you admit to it, I will have no reason to particpate in this thread.
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Truth needs preparation?
 
Rebel Dragons said:
Just to let everyone waiting know. I am going to respond to this tomorrow . I am not going to "come out of the gates" saying things I don't mean and can't stand behind. It will take some time to properly think everything through and prepare.
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This was supposed to be the above quote.
 
Mike, I once again urge you not to respond. Certain persons only have an interest in destroying someone for their own pleasure and status among like-minded persons.

Sociopaths are persons that have no human feelings for other humans. A recent psychology study determined that sociopaths make the most successful lawyers and CEO's. So, keep in mind that these may be the kind of people you will be feeding. You owe them nothing whatsoever.
 
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