Neil Gubitz, Tampa Snake Pit (Good Guy)

[Kevin Kaley]

Re: I think the point trying to be made

by some is two fold.

#1-If someone has a shady track record, and is selling an item you could get from 1,000 other places, why buy it from "shady?"

#2-If you do buy from someone, or some business that has a less than stelar track record, you are personally perpetuating the problem, by letting them know they can screw people over time and time again, and STILL, have people buy from them.

That's all i was trying to say.

 

[Glenn Bartley]

Say goodnight Gracie.

Goodnight George.

 

[PAUL BOLLINGER]

Ya got my vote

David Reid, Kevin Kaley.......Sign me up....You've got my vote too!

 

[mykee]

Tell me people, without a pseudo-evil scapegoat like Neil Gubitz around, would you all cease to exist? It seems that maybe 5 of you have dealt with him personally, yet that information does not stop any of you for one minute before shooting off at the mouth about the guy. This BOI was not intended for this. Smarten up. You're acting immaturely and hopefully losing the respect and future business of many (at least mine)with each post you respond to. Grow up.

 

[HerpVenue]

Well this thread was dead for a month until Mykee decided to tell us to grow up.

I just did a search on mykee and it seems rather hypocritical that he would tell us to grow up.

Now let us look at his name thing o the side there before he changes it. It says his name is

mykee
Michael James
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Registered: Mar 2003
Location: Canada
Posts: 47
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Interesting

My name is Michael Charanduk, I reside in Toronto, Canada

MICHAEL CHARANDUK
[email protected]

Michael James

Michael James nee

 

[Wilomn]

Does any one else smell a troll? A very stinky and apparently not so smart one too.

Wes Pollock

 

[Dennis Gulla]

Mykee

Why don't you take the time to enlighten us? I would love to hear and see the details of your apparently vast and postive experiences with Mr. Gubitz.

 

[Darin Chappell]

" . . .yet that information does not stop any of you for one minute before shooting off at the mouth about the guy."

Actually, this thread was dormant for over a month there, Mykee, and we were getting along swimmingly without mentioning his name. That is, unitl YOU brought him up for no apparent reason.

"This BOI was not intended for this."

Still yet another BOI expert heard from! Tell me Mykee, considering that you cannot even determine what your own name is, how is it that you are at all qualified to tell us anything about the BOI???

"You're acting immaturely and hopefully losing the respect and future business of many (at least mine)with each post you respond to."

Stop it! You're breaking my heart . . .I just don't know if I'll be able to sleep nights worrying about the situation . . .NOT!!!

 

[mykee]

Dennis, it seems you don't need experience to shoot off at the mouth about someone, at least not on this site. Seriously, stand back and look at what a handful of you are doing to abuse this site, to have your own voice heard, with apparently, nothing of of any interest to be said....

 

[jenn_jeffery]

Do a search for Mykee---if I remember correctly, he is a troll, who was banned, or very close to being banned at one time....though I could be wrong, and apologize if I am.

 

[Wilomn]

No Jenn, you are very correct. mykee is a troll, a very smelly and not very intelligent one. Isn't it funny how the guys like him come on here telling everyone how little we know and how little they care about what we think or say and that there is a clique here that no one else can be part of?

They don't care yet they are here.

We are ignorant yet they are here.

No one who is not a member of this mysterious clique can have an opinion and yet, THEY ARE HERE.

mykee, do you ever complete a thought or do you just get this flashing light in your head and think a thought, or what passes for thinking with you, for a split second? Sometimes, if you give a thought consideration for more than the afformentioned split second before you open you mouth, you may, just may mind you as your past record does not speak highly of your intelligence, form a coherent thought that has some value.

So far the value level of the thoughts you have shared is somewhat less than zero. Give the thinking thing a try if you can and see what happens.

Wes Pollock

 

[Dennis Gulla]

Mykee

Why such a nasty attitude?

"Dennis it seems you don't need experience to shoot off at the mouth about someone, at least not on this site."

Perhaps you did not comprehend my question. I asked if you could share the details of your positive experiences with Mr. Gubitz.

 

[screamdreams]

This guy's a pain in everybody's butt at some other forums as well. He loves to bash newcomers to the hobby with excessively rude comments when simple asking questions that I beginner should ask...seems like not too long ago this cat was asking the very same ones. He loves to run off at the mouth, we should probrably ignore the piece of : ) cause there is no being rational with this guy. Never met him, nor do I want to...only read numerous sarcastic, spiteful posts. He's a real winner in my book. NOT.

 

[screamdreams]

My gosh...

I have got to preview my replies from now on...lol!! That was terrible. Please forgive the grammatical errors in my above post. I know it doesn't look good when someone writes a post like that about someone and it doesn't seem to read very well...lol. I'm on empty here in Ohio, I'll take a nap and catch back up with everybody!!

 

[dochstader]

Niel Gubitz

Neil Gubitz is a lying cheating bastard oh i forgot stealing.Neil i'm going to be looking for you.I'm coming for you.I'm not going to waste time and tell everybody how much of a sleeze bag you really are so don't everybody start asking me about details.I'm sure you all already know how much of a slice of trash he is.Neil when you rip somebody off you need to tell your little buddies to keep thier big mouths shut about it.Kevin Barnett from Ectothermics yes your partner in crime.Kevin i guess is a sleeze bag also to knowingly let you misrepresent your animal that he produced.Kevin i'm not going to waste my time with you unless you got a problem with what i just said then I'll be more than happy to bust you straight in your s@%$ also.Neil you need to learn something.i have more money in my back pocket then you have in your bank account most days.the money doesn't bother me.Me being made a fool of does bother me.Everybody warned me about you but i guess i'm just dumb.when you are a very honest person you expect other people to treat you the same way.I had some very good people talk with you about that animal before i bought it.I didn't ask many questions if any because my friends treat me good because i am good to them.You led all of them to think it was legit.Normally i wouldn't of even had it checked out but they all insisted cause they told me you couldn't be trusted and my friends take care of me when it comes to reptiles cause they know i don't know that much.I don't want a refund,like i said it not the money.I will deal with you in person.when i came back at 4:30 i seen you in the parking lot.I was going to thank you but you couldn't look me in the eye. I assumed you didn't want to be bothered.then my friends told me how wrong you did me cause they overheard your slimeball partner Kevin laughing about it out on his smoke break.I went out looking for you cause i was pretty hot.You sure took off kinda quick.What was wrong.If your man enough to do the crime you should be man enough to get your teeth slapped out of your mouth.Oh did you have a hot date or something?remember something.i'll remind you the next time i see you.it's not the money.i routinely spend too much for animals thats why my friends try to look after me.I don't take very kindly to be made a fool of.I do a well enough job on my own for your help or your big mouth friends help.

Ivan Dochstader


BOi members no need to respond I refuse to post any details.This is 99.9% for neil.If it gets removed it won't change the fact that he is not a man most anybody with half a brain should ever do buisness with.I guess you can all call me 50% het for brains.


since i am only 50% het for brains can somebody e-mail me and tell me how to start a new thread here.i would really appreciate your time if you could.thanks

 

[gila7150]

There is a green "start new thread" button on the main BOI page in the top right corner.
If you're just trying to get a message to Neil without providing any details of a business transaction, why not just email or call him? His number and phone # are both on his website.
Unless this deal was worth going to jail over, I'd be careful about threatening violence over the internet.
Good luck

 

[kevin - ectothermics]

Yes Ivan, I have a big problem with your post as far as it concerns Charlotte and I. Perhaps you should check your facts prior to running your mouth. However, since you've elected to bash us in a public forum before discerning any of the particulars, lets look at what actually happened.

1. We were vendors at the recent Tampa show

2. A portion of our available stock displayed was offspring from (3) clutches of green tree pythons we produced this past season.

3. One of the clutches was produced by breeding a Wamena mite phase male to a normal Wamena, albeit high blue vertebrally marked female. (8) neonates pipped from that clutch February 13th

4. Several of the neonates were extremely dark, almost black with reduced vertebral patterning.

5. One of those neonates was held back as potential future breeding stock while the other was displayed and available at the show.

6. Neil purchased the dark neonate from us at what we felt was a fair price for cbb green trees and the exact same price our other neonates were available for, with the exception of a designer clutch bred for high yellow.

7. Neil was told the background on the animal and in fact a description of the parents was written on the receipt. Both parents are pictured on our site

8. No mention was made by us concerning the future coloration of the neonate. Only an idiot would assume a trait such as mite phase is guaranteed in F1 offpspring from w/c founder animals

9. Once the animal left our possession, we had no further dealings with it, nor with Neil.

10. We were told by several people attending the show the more than double price tag Neil had posted on the animal.

11. On Sunday, Neil informed us the animal sold at his exorbitant price with no additional details.

12. The comment overheard by your significant other was a chagrined comment made by me to a friend concerning our lack of sales of the rest of the neonate gtps and my confusion as to how Neil had sold his at an extememly inflated price while we didn't sell another green tree for the balance of the show

13. I did speak with your spouse? concerning this animal, showed her the siblings, explained in detail the breeding, the founder stock, the potential of the animal and described the sibling we held back and why.

You have an extremely nice cbb Wamena gtp with a potential to be a mite phase animal produced by us at our facility, but certainly not sold as mite phase. Many folks, including us, spend thousands of dollars monthly in the hopes of acquiring extraordinary breeding stock. In green trees especially, unless dealing with known lines such as Lemon Tree, Nicoli or BG high yellow or Tim Morris blue, and even with those lines, its a crapshoot.

Perhaps you should have done some research prior to your purchase. Buyers remorse is something all breeders deal with, however your problem is with Neil and his dealing with you and has nothing to do with us. There was never any further dealings with Neil subsequent to that sale and since he rarely purchases cbb from us, we wouldn't anticipate more.

I also feel your physical threats are way out of line. However I'll be more than happy to oblige you in any forum, public or private that you require. In case you should feel a need;

12119 Folger St
Spring Hill, FL
352-686-5026
cell 813-363-2175

 

[Suncoast Herpetological]

Ivan

First off, without details your post has no place here. Random statements without any information simply make you look like a ranting lunatic.

Second, if Neil bought an animal from Kevin and then misrepresented it to you, in what way is that Kevins fault or responsibility? Your supposed problem is with Neil and no one else.

Third, I have known Kevin and Charlotte for a number of years and have found them to be two of the most stand up, honest people in this business. They are simply not the sort of people to ever be involved in a situation like you have outlined.

You are shooting off your mouth (loudly and profanely) without knowing what you are talking about. Check your facts before you decided to defame the name of good people in this trade. At the moment, the only one who comes off as looking bad in this thread is you.

 

[Darin Chappell]

Ivan, if you only wanted to reach Neil, and you didn't want thte members of the BOI to respond . . . Why post here at all? His email address is posted all over the net from his own ads and such. Take your private conversation someplace where it can remail just that . . . private.

 

[HerpVenue]

Kevin Barnett from Ectothermics yes your partner in crime.Kevin i guess is a sleeze bag also to knowingly let you misrepresent your animal that he produced

1. Kevin is not partners with Neil.

2. It is not Kevin's business what Neil charges for his animals.

3. It is not Kevin's responsibility to keep track of the people he sold to.

4. it is not Kevin's responsibility to keep track of how his animals are being sold by other people. But he could if he wanted.



Kevin talked to your wife about the animals siblings. Didn't it strike you as strange that Neil can sell and charge an exhorbitant amount for this animal....while all the siblings at an even cheaper price did not sell?

Sounds like Neil the used car salesman got the better of you.



If I sell normal ball pythons to a guy and he without my knowledge turns around and sells them as hets for piebald.....would it be my fault?


Ivan you showed your idiocy by getting ripped off by the used car salesman.

Now your showing your idiocy by threatening Neil and threatening Kevin. And blaming Kevin for something Neil did.

and if this thread is for Neil.....then why not e-mail it to him?
Why even post?

Me and Neil don't really always get along. But I have to call it as I see it. Threats are a big no no.