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Poor guy

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">You and ritchie and everyone else will see what I produce this year in balls </td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

That is funny Jesse.  YOu said you were getting a shipment in of normal balls.  Now all of a sudden you have morphs?  More lies.  Dude you are so caught...JUST GO AWAY...and if you do produce morphs..you have to take a picture with you in them holding them and you have to take a picture of the whole liter....not just the normals.  and the most important thing DO NOT STEAL ANYMORE PICTURES if you can do that I will leave you alone

What ever happend to Tony Khamjoi and Jon & Katie Larson and 218 herps.

So do you still claim to live in the SW.
So do you know who lives  1105 4th ave nw?
 
Jesse, you brought up my name, so I guess now I will have to go over the whole dmn thing again just in case anyone doesn't know about it.  You know, I was fine just reading this thread for laughs.  I STILL have all your emails, so I can post them if I need to.

First of all, I asked you to bring AN albino, any albino.  You told me that you had NO albinos in your possession.
Second, I couldn't send you the vet bill because YOU refused to get back to me.  YOU woudn't send me the paperwork with your address on it, even after I emailed you numerous times.
Third, as for the age of the snakes, I don't have to prove anything.  YOU changed the story about the ages of the snakes - three times!
Fourth, again, your story on where they came from changed.  So as for where they came from and how old they were, you had to be lying at least once.
Fifth, you stole someone else's albino pics.  Care to explain?

As for returning them, it was hard enough for me to drive a couple hours each way when I was working 10-14 hrs a day, 7 days a week.  I treated them, got them feeding, and they were doing fine.  The male was a very picky eater, but it was winter and he seemed to be off his food.  It probably didn't help that the tip of his tongue was gone.  But they were both feeding and active when I returned them.  Then when I did, you told me about a sick retic you just took in that died.  Did it ever occur to you that that's how they got sick?  They were never in contact with any other snakes while I or my brother had them.  Also, you lied to me about the lump on the female.  It wasn't a calcium deposit.  My vet did a needle aspiration and told me it was fungal.  And her sores weren't burns, like you said, but also an infection.  It cleared up very well in my care.  

And now you don't care about the money?  YEAH RIGHT!!!  What about all the medical problems and the money problems like losing your job, and the trouble paying people back?  Did you win the lottery, or what?   <img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>

You can try to blame me all you want for 'ruining' your reputation, but you are the one that changed your stories and got caught lying. You're right.  Someone reading this thread wouldn't know the whole story - it's much more incriminating actually reading your posts in previous threads.  

p.s. Remind us all why you needed to use stolen pics if you own hundreds of snakes???
 
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Ritchie So this spring when I produce more pieds you will not buy one? or a albinoI give you a deal on either best price ever No one would go down as low as i would.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

Jesse you have not produced anything but one batch of normal boas.

Now you are saying you have produced pieds?
And as usual no pictures.

Jesse just give it up... no one believes you.

and if you really produce any pieds. (yeah right)  I pay you $20 bucks plus shipping.  After all you do not care about the money right?</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Because I don't really care about the money</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

then I will post a public apology on this site and my site and every single forum I can find.

wait I am sounding like a broken record.  I offered the same thing AND free animals to all your other pseudo personalities.  But they would not go for it.  They would not prove to us that they were not you.

JESSE WHAT HAPPENED TO ALL YOUR OTHER PERSONALITIES ?

What happened to
Tony Khamjoi
Jon & Katie Larson
etc etc etc.  

Tell us what heppend to them.  After all you all live in the same address.

But nevermind You won't answer any questions.  Because you are to dumb to realize you are caught.


I will make you a deal.  Send those guyanas to me.  And next summer I will send you an albino boa that I produce.  That way you can take plenty of pictures and claim it as yours and you can sell your normals as hets.  What do you say
 
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Ritchie Luna @ Sep. 29 2002,07:20)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">JESSE WHAT HAPPENED TO ALL YOUR OTHER PERSONALITIES ?

What happened to
Tony Khamjoi
Jon & Katie Larson</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Yes, I am interested also.  I offered to meet you and your "aquaintances" to help prove that you were seperate entities.  Why did all discussion end when I offered to help?

In all seriousness, Jesse, you need help.  Go to Mayo Clinic and check yourself in.  They have many doctors that can help you.  And some day, if you stay on your meds, you can even leave and live happily in your parents basement again.  If you can't drive their yourself, give Jon, Katie, or Tony a call.  I am sure any one of them would help.  I would offer myself, but I know you wouldn't respond.  It must be that Underhill pride.
 
Jesse,
what is wrong with those guyanas?
I mean you are such a great breeder producing 700 animals a year and 10 different morphs.  Why can't you breed those guyanas yourself.  have 30-50 babies.  Sell them for 200 each and make $6000-$10,000 at a minimum.

why are you so desparate to sell them?
Why are you calling people all over Minesotta?
Come clean Jesse what is wrong with them?

What do you need to pay for your new shipment of fake het ball pythons?
 
where does it say I was getting normal balls in, I have already breeded the guyannas.Why keep them when I don't need them?What fake het balls?this is some new stuff to me. For onr I don't know them people I don't live with my ex I have told you all that over and over.What the HOE does is none of my biz I care less.What this you set the price on my animals.I do.
 
You do not know them people?
that is great...

Remember the phone number you were passing around?
It has been traced.

Read this carefully Jesse....Because it seems you do not get it

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Hey Rich, I do enjoy the BOI sagas, but I chose not to post, and like it that way. The phone #507-434-4944 that was given for J Underhill belongs to Marion Underhill 1105 4th ave Austin Mn. Wish I could claim responsibilty for this info, but if the bosses found out.... its not like I work for the phone co or anything </td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

Jesse.  You do not know Tony Khamjoi?
He is giving out the same address --  1105 4th ave Austin Mn

Jon & Katie Larson -- They were shipping to the same adress -- 1105 4th ave Austin Mn

don't you get it?  YOu are all tied to the same adress.  But you do not know each other.

Talking to a rock is a lot better than talking to you.  At least the rock knows when he is caught.  At least the rock knows when to give up.

Jesse let me type slowly
YOU are all tied to the same adress 1105 4th ave Austin Mn.....So you have to know each other

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">where does it say I was getting normal balls in</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>  I knew I should not have erased all that sh!t in your adds.  I knew I should not have enforced the rules when it comes to you lying.

You are confusing....you do not know them people because you do not live with your ex?  HUH?


Jesse,  I see that you won't give up.  I see that you are still choosing to live a life of deceit, lies, misrepresentation, double talk and still trying to sell fake hets and lying about animals.   I WILL NEVER LEAVE YOU ALONE !!!

All you have to do is change your ways and I would leave you alone.
Ask the guy you called today to try and sell your guyanas to.
His name was mud.  He turned around and decided to do it right.  Guess what.  I am acutally trying to help him out any which way I can.


Jesse you produce 700 animals a year with 10 different morphs.  Where are they  And do not tell me you have sold them all.  You can't even give your guyanas away for free.
 
Hey! What's going on Jesse?
I said to hold off so I could think about the guyana because it would cost more than I thought. Now you call someone else to buy them? What price did you give that person? Why wouldn't they go for it?
You know, this whole thing is screwed up. Half the time I can't figure out what the hell you are typing (try using periods and stay on the subject).
I don't want to take the chance of getting sick animals like April or paying for snakes that you may have sold to someone else. What if this person bought them? You never emailed me about another buyer! Would you have continued with our transaction?
 
Jesse I knew I was saving all your e-mails for something.
E-mail from Jesse to me August 19, 2002
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Whats this sh!t about a axanthic man you should know I'm out of balls long time ago the last ones I had left was the sick one i got back from April that died.I get stuff all the time for people around here I import some stuff what they do with it there biz not mine.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

This is Jesse's add selling the axanthic he claims to not have  the local guy he got them off of is himself aka (Tony Khamjoi)
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I pick these's guy up off a local guy.I need to sell them ASAP I have a shippment coming in next week need the room.One is a nice ringer male the other is a Unproven Axanthic male both are imports I have treated them here twice both have ate over 5 times on small rats.The Axanthic has a small white patch on top of his head that got bigger after he shed.I don't have a Scale for weight but they are nice.take both for 275.00 shipped Prove out the male axanthic then put your name on that line of Axanthic.They come from Logan Enterprises from what the guy said</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
This is an excerpt from an add.  this excerpt is dated August 31</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I'll be offering the rest of my ball collection.I have left may be you can afford some of them.Like I tell everyone you nor anyone else on here know what I have I'M PUTTING TOGETHER A NICE GROUP DEAL ON MY REMAINING BALLS.I'm not breeding them anymore.jesse
</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

This one is an add dated Sept 9</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">plus a couple balls I picked up in town here one's a unproven Axanthic the other's a ringer both are imports I will not seprate the boas they are proven pair in 2000.they are 1000.00 OBO
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post from sept 28</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Ritchie So this spring when I produce more pieds you will not buy one? or a albinoI give you a deal on either best price ever No one would go down as low as i would.Or how about some ghosts or pastels I can beat anyones price on them Because I don't really care about the money.Jesse</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>



A recap
First all he had were two ball pythons that were sickly and knew nothing about an axanthic.
Then he tries to sell the axanthic he knew nothing aobut.
Then he is getting a shipment of balls so the rest of his ball collection has to go.  (which must mean his two sickly ball pythons have to go)
Then he says he is not breeding them anymore.
Then all of a sudden...this spring he will produce piebalds and albinos.

He must be producing them by cloning them from his dead ball python.  Either that or he is gonna use his NORMAL ball python shipment he just received. and make some het for normals.

So Jesse you are gonna produce albinos and piebalds this season?  Can you take a picture of the normal parents?
 
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">where does it say I was getting normal balls in, I have already breeded the guyannas.Why keep them when I don't need them?What fake het balls?this is some new stuff to me. For onr I don't know them people I don't live with my ex I have told you all that over and over.What the HOE does is none of my biz I care less.What this you set the price on my animals.I do.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
OUCH! Just reading that hurts.

I think what everyone is missing here is the fact that Jesse lives in Austin, MN. He has nothing else to do but post here. Everyone here is communicating with him. That is the closest thing to friends he has. It all goes to the "negative attention" theory. When you can't get attention through the normal channels some people prefer to use means to acquire negative attention. This being preferable to no attention at all.
This is mostly seen in children, but read his posts. You're not really dealing with a mentally mature individual here. Fact of the matter is Jesse will never go away. Where else can he go and be the center of attention? When the person who started this thread titled it "poor guy", he hit the nail right on the head. This is a sad case of someone with no friends, except all his "friends" here. He can come here and get attention whenever he wants. That in a "nutshell" is the story of his life.
 
Good Point

Jesse I feel sorry for you
Go get some help somewhere.
Go seek professional help.
If not for all this negative attention you are craving.... at least get help for your non stop lying.  I
t is a sicknes.  You buddy are real sick.
 
I still have balls and always will I'm not breeding them like I use too.Ritchie I'll sell you a pied baby that I produce this spring for 800.00 bucks only you.It may not be the best looking one with tons of white but it will be a pied....

I have not sold the guyannas SPJ None of my snakes are sick or dead like you said Ritchie.

I use to live at 1105 4th ave  I dont now Haven't been there for over a year.
Ricthie when did I have two sickly balls besides the ones i got back from April. The axanthic I found out when I got them from Jungle bunny.So how any the Hell can i be telling people they are not what they are when the people I got them from got them from Logan So he is lieing about them then??  

Where do you see me selling het or no what they are animals?<img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>? no where
I'll have some het this year but I'm keeping most of them.

SPJ I have not sold the guyannas I posted on here they may be sold but they are not they are 100% healthy and who ever gets them will love them the male can be a ass sometimes.

Theguy wanted to trade a venomoid cobra plus money for the guyannas but Any vemons snake are illegal in Minnesota hope he don't get caught with it he is in Minnesota too. I still have them and will till some has th cash for them or a good trade but till then they are here.Yes I would still none the transaction with you if you purchased them If I sold them before I would let you know. I don't sell something I don't have here or that is already sold.

Ok till friday I'll sell them for 500.00 shipped  you have 24 hours to let me know if anything is wrong or you don't like them.If they are what you like I'll give you back your money no question asked.

there's no mites ticks or illness with them or any other animal I have all here.


So here is your chance for some killer Guyannas.
 
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The axanthic I found out when I got them from Jungle bunny.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

You did not get the axanthic from some guy named Jungle Bunny.
You got the axanthic from Tony Khamjoi.
We all know Tony Khamjoi = Jesse Underhill
YOu might not be living at 1105 4th.....but the phone number you are giving out belongs to a Marion underhill who lives at that address.  Marion is still living at that address. AND YOU KNOW IT.

Let me type your lies slowly since you have a hard time reading
AUGUST 19
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Whats this sh!t about a axanthic man you should know I'm out of balls long time ago the last ones I had left was the sick one i got back from April that died.I get stuff all the time for people around here I import some stuff what they do with it there biz not mine.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

It clearly says you are out of balls and the only one you had was dead.

And today</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I still have balls and always will I'm not breeding them like I use too</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>


NOW you admit that you used to live at 1105 4th.
Isn't it convenient.
Tony Khamjoi
Jesse Udnerhill
Jon and Katie Larson.

Do not know each other.

But they all have had the same home address
They have all had the same IP address
And they have all had in their possesion the same axanthic.

Jon and Katie sold it to Tony.   Tony sold it to Jesse.  But they do not know each other.



It is worthless arguing back and forth with you.  ALL YOU DO IS LIE.  even your e-mails change from one story to the next.  I am no longer gonna argue with you.  But I will make damned sure that NO ONE buys from you.  And if they do....that is their business if they want to risk getting ripped of.

So Jesse you are going to produce hets?  Can you take pictures of your albinos?  DIDN'T THINK SO
So Jesse can you take pictures of your piebalds? DIDN' THINK SO

Jesse het for piebalds are in the 4000 area.
Piebalds themselves are in the 12,000 area.
you expect me to believe you are gonna sell them for 800?

Okay I will pay you $1000....BUT YOU SHIP FIRST
And how do you know that I will pay you?  Because my word is my bond.  Unlike you...My word is good as gold.

i TOLD YOU TO GET SOME HELP...iNSTEAD YOU COME BACK AND TRY TO LIE SOMEMORE.   GOOD BYE.

Kiss your business GOOD BYE
 
$500 shipped? Is that both. Now that sounds good.
Post a pic of each one.
 
"I still have them and will till some has th cash for them or a good trade but till then they are here.Yes I would still none the transaction with you if you purchased them If I sold them before I would let you know. I don't sell something I don't have here or that is already sold."

Just reading that makes my eyes bleed!

ANYONE who still thinks they can send Jesse any money at all, ought to just burn their money instead.  You still won't get the snakes Jesse's advertising, but at least you'll be able to watch the pretty colors in the fire for a few moments, and THAT will be more pleasureable, profitable, and honest than anything Jesse could send you any way!

<img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>
 
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Ok till friday I'll sell them for 500.00 shipped  you have 24 hours to let me know if anything is wrong or you don't like them.If they are what you like I'll give you back your money no question asked.
</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

SPJ
Take it.  But make sure he ships first.

Jesse
24hours?  What happened to your wonderfull guarantee
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">All animals are guaranteed for 7 days if your not happy we'll replace it or refund your money once we have the animal back,
All het are Guaranteed till they have babies if they don't produce what they are het for We'll give you what they were het for.Must have the reciept from us NO COPIES of reciepts otherwise the guarantee is VOID
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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I don't sell something I don't have here</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Oh Really?  I remember you trying to sell a boa that belonged to clay english.  He still had it in his possesion.  And he will never in a million years send it to you.  But you were trying to sell it.
 
$500 shipped for both sounds good.
You ship FIRST.
Any problems (health, not eating, parasites, misrepresentation,etc.) and they get shipped back at YOUR expense.
I'm not interested in playing games.
 
One more thing.
Why do you give everyone else a 7 day guarentee but i will be stuck with a 24 hour guarentee?
Is there something you know about that would take 48 hours to appear?
 
Opps my mistake I type for them damn imported balls these guyannas get 7 days an no they are not imports they are C.B proven adults.

I give everyone that wants to get ahold of me my number 433-3185 not the HOE'S number.Leaves a messenge I'll get back to you.I work alot of hours.
 
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