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Inquiry POSSIBLE STOLEN RAPTORS BEING SOLD IN USA BY CHRIS KEENEY

Ok so hopefully these uploads are within the policy guidelines otherwise i will have to find another way to share information.

These are screenshots of several texts i received from Chris Keeney today. I believe the may have come in a little out of order.

Eabele i will PM these to you for your records.

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Why are you asking if you are? You were surely informed that you are.

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8880

That link is to a thread which is highlighted in red near the top of this very forum. Near the bottom of the first post in that thread is a link to instructions on how to attach images to posts that follows the mention of the rule itself.
Yes thanks its a matter of figuring out what i was doing wrong not finding the rules.

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Yes thanks its a matter of figuring out what i was doing wrong not finding the rules.

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As I have explained, the instructions for how to correctly attach things are right there as a link within the post I provided a link to.
 
As I have explained, the instructions for how to correctly attach things are right there as a link within the post I provided a link to.
I have already read the info. I am trying to figure out how to do it with tapatalk. I am seeing now that it cant be done using the app because it puts it on their server.

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I have already read the info. I am trying to figure out how to do it with tapatalk. I am seeing now that it cant be done using the app because it puts it on their server.

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You CANT with Tapatalk anymore. You MUST go to the actual website

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Post removed. Member created this new account to bypass an existing ban. Until you provide your REAL FULL NAME for your profile, you are not welcome to post on this site, Chris. You have been told this is what is needed to lift your ban.
 
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CKeen said:
Go in peace and cease and desist all lies. if it gets to point and I must seek further damage I will look to main people spreading lies. These are not stolen as stated by officers at worse case civil because it was sent by Eabele regardless of anything else taken from this to call me a thief or say stolen is Libel Slander.

Creating yet another account to bypass your ban. Tsk tsk, Chris. More of that "libel slander" that's been going around here lately. Are you any relation to a Jason Ciccone, by any chance? It seems possible that you've both flunked out of the very same elementary school. With all the proceeds from selling your ill-gotten snakes, you may actually be able to afford a defamation case, but I have a feeling that this threat is nothing more than the same stupid bluster you've spewed around here before.
 
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2 fake accounts in a row. Common Chris Keeney third time is a charm...LOL.

Man just add your name to account we have already posted your full name all over this BOI anyways
 
The issue with is lawsuit claim is he has to prove that what he is accusing people of is actually false and they stated it knowing it was actually false. So thats 2 things to prove and he hasnt been able to prove 1 thing on the BOI to us so how is he going to convince a jury of 12??
 
The issue with is lawsuit claim is he has to prove that what he is accusing people of is actually false and they stated it knowing it was actually false. So thats 2 things to prove and he hasnt been able to prove 1 thing on the BOI to us so how is he going to convince a jury of 12??
Well, the lawsuit claim is in my opinion fake, it is just an attempt to hush you up and have those posts removed.

Kevin,
I'd tell him to take me to court. It is my opinion that those who threaten legal action will not follow through.

I agree. But my suggestion was to point out that one cannot remove these comments onesself, only Rich can remove them (and he has posted in the excerpt that will not be done until a lawsuit is complete and he receives a court order, unlikely because he has not provided proof here as mentioned above.) If he goes acting a fool to Rich he is liable to get verbally whomped in a restrained yet effective reply. So much more satisfying :hehe:
 
Eabele did you ever get any indication from Chris Keeney that you were to only ship the boas that had been paid for, and not the ones that you asked him to consign?

For the boas that you asked Chris consign, did you ever sign a contract with him about that, or was everything documented in just emails, texts, and phone calls? I consign firearms in my business, and the agreement spells out my company's fee structure, a minimum selling price, terms if the original owner no longer wishes to sell, etc. I couldn't imagine sending someone $80-100k in merchandise without some sort of a detailed contract in place.

Finally, we ship and receive a lot of stuff and a few times a year we receive something that had been sent by mistake. Because we're not crooks and we care about our reputation in the industry, we know we can't just keep the merchandise. We let the vendor know so they can make arrangements to retrieve their merchandise and fix their mistake.
 
Concerned:

Point Blank Eabele chose to send snakes. I told him prior to not send. I just wanted to be made hole on snakes paid for. Eabele said he had gone too far into it and was sending multiple snakes anyway. We had talked back and forth about my corporation working with him in different manners. We never made agreements on Face Book we always text and or talked by phone. I also would never enter into any contract without a signed agreement. I would never store any ones animals for up to a year and make only $250 dollars per animal, standard brokerage fee is 10% -20% plus cost. I had to buy all new equipment and store the extra snakes he sent along with feeding and caring for because he chose to send again. I had multiple worries along the way about his word he claimed to be gene originator even though others claimed to also have raptors and supers. He claimed he was sending me one of a kind and first ever in USA and upgrading my original snakes to older hold backs Raptors. Regardless of his claims I just wanted to have the animals I had already paid for. He sent animals with full required documents including written custom invoice and agreements to terms of snakes sent. All these were sent and typed by him and his agent, he also signed sworn statement of truth and on his invoice where pricing is required.
I never got to see or touch documents from what he sent so his claims I altered documents just bogus. Fish and Game and US Customs retain all originals along with shipping agents. Fish and game asked me a couple of strange questions, and I did not think nothing of this until later. Here is the deal when a shipper sends animals with required documents it must match and correspond with receiver documents. I could not get Eabele to send his itemized statement with value and id of each snake as he claimed to send. So I left value blank as I had no required information from Eabele but I applied for commercial application so if I wanted or needed to sell snakes I could. I was given a document and told to proceed to customs again without snakes. When I arrived my cargo was red flagged and I was walked to an investigation area where dept. of Agriculture agent started an interrogation of this shipment. I was asked many strange questions and my only answer was truly I don’t know, since Eabele never sent me true value and itemization prior to shipping as he was required too. I was told Snakes are not to be released out of possession until fully cleared and fees paid. This was a horrifying position to be interrogated. I was released and was told to go down stairs to pay fees. Again asked questions I had no full knowledge of finally I was issued a copy of Eabele Value declaration and invoice statement. They told me to pay fee listed and that the snakes are to remain in custody until fish and game decided to release them or not. I was in such distress here I am in the middle of Fraud changes not portrayed by me or left in dark from Eabele. I came to agreement and told to wait. Wait I did for almost a week when Fish and Game gave me full release with a couple of warnings for me in future. I was told never allow a shipper to ship again unless I have concrete matching invoice. I told them that I had ask on a number of occasions by e-mails and texts to get full detailed information and was not signing nothing until I did or received products paid for. I was informed that next time I will be required to apply for a number in advance and have all itemization statements with me. No Problem I was just glad to have this part behind me. I was also given a full authorization CITES permit to return extra animals if that's how I wished to proceed. Having some stressed and a few unhealthy snakes from travel and or stress I still did not know what to do and chose to slowly process and make best decisions and not talk to the guy who just put me through this. One night while I was talking with Kevin South I told him what happened and I did not know what I was going to do. I could tell he and Eabele already talked about this. Kevin Stated, "Eabele said this is standard practice and everybody lies on official declaration reports." I became livid inside knowing they already knew what I was up against and did not inform me or send me any of the correct documents I had ask Eabele for previously. I told him I was questioned in an email and I do not do business this way and went into deep thought but decided not to make any official decisions until I spoke to council, and made it through my 15 year Anniversary.
After being harassed nonstop on my anniversary about what I was going tp dp. I finally made my decision to accept the prior authorization of CITIES return paper work and told Eabele I was returning his black box and snakes. He said no do not do that give to Kevin then I will sell through him. I said No emphatically. Im not being part to his fraud if that was his intetions. I then wanted nothing to do with this project any longer and decided to sell off my snakes not the snakes I was returning. Woke up next morning to printed slander by Kevin South and Eabele. They had stated I stole animals when booth parties knew Eablele sent on his own desires. I had it and was told if it came to an issue where Eabele was not going to allow me to return snakes peacefully. I was to fulfill his contractual invoice and declaration value to the tee. I did not wavier. I instantly paid them off since Eabele and Kevin South lied and informed people I stole which is impossible in first place as Eabele sent and filled out all his own paperwork on his own, under NO knowledge to me. Therefore because he entered into this agreement with intentions to not be fully unethical, fraudulent and not forth coming he chose on his own behalf to devalue his collection. This action had nothing to do with me and consequences lie on his shoulders and his alone. From here out because of my stress and loss of profits and assets in my business venture with reptiles is going under, I am choosing to sell what I have remaining to recoup my losses. If Eabele wants to be a man and state value he put that is up to him but I declare and promises as always stated his valuation and declaration are paid in full and then some.
His written words of our agreement in which he signed and wrote in front of Shipping agents sent to our government for processing.
.......
"Boa constrictor Imperators have a value of $**** each. This shipment contains 18 Boa constrictor imperators.

We trade to expand the genepools of our breeding programs. ....."
Eabele De Rue

(and signed)

100% truth and always what I have said sometimes might have been loss in anger or depression but none the less I would like to hear his truthful response to this. All he had to do was say I screwed up and I did not tell full truth which got Chris in-trouble and has cost him time and money, some aggravation and emotional stress. He needs to compensate me for this. Eabele could have just not lied and waited for box of snakes to be return. Unfortunately we are so far in this and with consultations and losses.
I am done with the Boa World and these lies are the direct cause of my ruin and losses so good for you if that’s what you intended. I wish somebody would talk with him in honesty because he knows what I am saying is truth. I have no need to alter any official document besides all I was given was an official copied document. Denied or not we know what I am saying is true you cannot enter into any official agreement under fraudulent pretense and prosper! So if I was a true friend to him I would say if any part about the invoice deceleration is true I would remove all lies and put a statement of apology on all sights where they stated I stole clearing my name. Then ask for arbitration to rectify damages as only attorneys will win in end and possibly if fraud proven could represent jail time. I truly no matter how he respond am done with boas and breeding hobby. If he did this and we came to an agreement I would place snake in other third parties hands that has full contract to sell off and pay my until agreement is paid off. I still have not issued these documents to his foreign government because unlike him I do not see a father behind bars for fraud is good for any children and Family.
Go in peace and cease and desist all lies. If it gets to point and I must seek further damage I will look to main people spreading lies. These are not stolen as stated by officers at worse case civil because it was sent by Eabele’s own accord, regardless of anything else taken from this to call me a thief or say stolen is Slander in printed form meant to hurt my Name and cost me money. So Eabele let’s see how you answer is that not what you wrote deflated value and we were doing this for breeding purposes. If you don’t want to admit and try to work this out it is still in your best interest to allow me to sell like you previously stated and I will keep all profits excluding operating cost and attorney fees in a separate account until our case is heard and judge rules on it. To just keep ignoring and not fixing my name so I can sell off snakes will only keep my losses raising until nothing could be had and then snakes suffer too, as I do not have time for them since I was forced out of this business. I am in process of trying to close out all parts of this business. But I will not release any snakes until apology is given as written above.
Good Day and Cheers
 
Concerned:

Point Blank Eabele chose to send snakes. I told him prior to not send. I just wanted to be made hole on snakes paid for. Eabele said he had gone too far into it and was sending multiple snakes anyway. We had talked back and forth about my corporation working with him in different manners. We never made agreements on Face Book we always text and or talked by phone. I also would never enter into any contract without a signed agreement. I would never store any ones animals for up to a year and make only $250 dollars per animal, standard brokerage fee is 10% -20% plus cost. I had to buy all new equipment and store the extra snakes he sent along with feeding and caring for because he chose to send again. I had multiple worries along the way about his word he claimed to be gene originator even though others claimed to also have raptors and supers. He claimed he was sending me one of a kind and first ever in USA and upgrading my original snakes to older hold backs Raptors. Regardless of his claims I just wanted to have the animals I had already paid for. He sent animals with full required documents including written custom invoice and agreements to terms of snakes sent. All these were sent and typed by him and his agent, he also signed sworn statement of truth and on his invoice where pricing is required.
I never got to see or touch documents from what he sent so his claims I altered documents just bogus. Fish and Game and US Customs retain all originals along with shipping agents. Fish and game asked me a couple of strange questions, and I did not think nothing of this until later. Here is the deal when a shipper sends animals with required documents it must match and correspond with receiver documents. I could not get Eabele to send his itemized statement with value and id of each snake as he claimed to send. So I left value blank as I had no required information from Eabele but I applied for commercial application so if I wanted or needed to sell snakes I could. I was given a document and told to proceed to customs again without snakes. When I arrived my cargo was red flagged and I was walked to an investigation area where dept. of Agriculture agent started an interrogation of this shipment. I was asked many strange questions and my only answer was truly I don’t know, since Eabele never sent me true value and itemization prior to shipping as he was required too. I was told Snakes are not to be released out of possession until fully cleared and fees paid. This was a horrifying position to be interrogated. I was released and was told to go down stairs to pay fees. Again asked questions I had no full knowledge of finally I was issued a copy of Eabele Value declaration and invoice statement. They told me to pay fee listed and that the snakes are to remain in custody until fish and game decided to release them or not. I was in such distress here I am in the middle of Fraud changes not portrayed by me or left in dark from Eabele. I came to agreement and told to wait. Wait I did for almost a week when Fish and Game gave me full release with a couple of warnings for me in future. I was told never allow a shipper to ship again unless I have concrete matching invoice. I told them that I had ask on a number of occasions by e-mails and texts to get full detailed information and was not signing nothing until I did or received products paid for. I was informed that next time I will be required to apply for a number in advance and have all itemization statements with me. No Problem I was just glad to have this part behind me. I was also given a full authorization CITES permit to return extra animals if that's how I wished to proceed. Having some stressed and a few unhealthy snakes from travel and or stress I still did not know what to do and chose to slowly process and make best decisions and not talk to the guy who just put me through this. One night while I was talking with Kevin South I told him what happened and I did not know what I was going to do. I could tell he and Eabele already talked about this. Kevin Stated, "Eabele said this is standard practice and everybody lies on official declaration reports." I became livid inside knowing they already knew what I was up against and did not inform me or send me any of the correct documents I had ask Eabele for previously. I told him I was questioned in an email and I do not do business this way and went into deep thought but decided not to make any official decisions until I spoke to council, and made it through my 15 year Anniversary.
After being harassed nonstop on my anniversary about what I was going tp dp. I finally made my decision to accept the prior authorization of CITIES return paper work and told Eabele I was returning his black box and snakes. He said no do not do that give to Kevin then I will sell through him. I said No emphatically. Im not being part to his fraud if that was his intetions. I then wanted nothing to do with this project any longer and decided to sell off my snakes not the snakes I was returning. Woke up next morning to printed slander by Kevin South and Eabele. They had stated I stole animals when booth parties knew Eablele sent on his own desires. I had it and was told if it came to an issue where Eabele was not going to allow me to return snakes peacefully. I was to fulfill his contractual invoice and declaration value to the tee. I did not wavier. I instantly paid them off since Eabele and Kevin South lied and informed people I stole which is impossible in first place as Eabele sent and filled out all his own paperwork on his own, under NO knowledge to me. Therefore because he entered into this agreement with intentions to not be fully unethical, fraudulent and not forth coming he chose on his own behalf to devalue his collection. This action had nothing to do with me and consequences lie on his shoulders and his alone. From here out because of my stress and loss of profits and assets in my business venture with reptiles is going under, I am choosing to sell what I have remaining to recoup my losses. If Eabele wants to be a man and state value he put that is up to him but I declare and promises as always stated his valuation and declaration are paid in full and then some.
His written words of our agreement in which he signed and wrote in front of Shipping agents sent to our government for processing.
.......
"Boa constrictor Imperators have a value of $**** each. This shipment contains 18 Boa constrictor imperators.

We trade to expand the genepools of our breeding programs. ....."
Eabele De Rue

(and signed)

100% truth and always what I have said sometimes might have been loss in anger or depression but none the less I would like to hear his truthful response to this. All he had to do was say I screwed up and I did not tell full truth which got Chris in-trouble and has cost him time and money, some aggravation and emotional stress. He needs to compensate me for this. Eabele could have just not lied and waited for box of snakes to be return. Unfortunately we are so far in this and with consultations and losses.
I am done with the Boa World and these lies are the direct cause of my ruin and losses so good for you if that’s what you intended. I wish somebody would talk with him in honesty because he knows what I am saying is truth. I have no need to alter any official document besides all I was given was an official copied document. Denied or not we know what I am saying is true you cannot enter into any official agreement under fraudulent pretense and prosper! So if I was a true friend to him I would say if any part about the invoice deceleration is true I would remove all lies and put a statement of apology on all sights where they stated I stole clearing my name. Then ask for arbitration to rectify damages as only attorneys will win in end and possibly if fraud proven could represent jail time. I truly no matter how he respond am done with boas and breeding hobby. If he did this and we came to an agreement I would place snake in other third parties hands that has full contract to sell off and pay my until agreement is paid off. I still have not issued these documents to his foreign government because unlike him I do not see a father behind bars for fraud is good for any children and Family.
Go in peace and cease and desist all lies. If it gets to point and I must seek further damage I will look to main people spreading lies. These are not stolen as stated by officers at worse case civil because it was sent by Eabele’s own accord, regardless of anything else taken from this to call me a thief or say stolen is Slander in printed form meant to hurt my Name and cost me money. So Eabele let’s see how you answer is that not what you wrote deflated value and we were doing this for breeding purposes. If you don’t want to admit and try to work this out it is still in your best interest to allow me to sell like you previously stated and I will keep all profits excluding operating cost and attorney fees in a separate account until our case is heard and judge rules on it. To just keep ignoring and not fixing my name so I can sell off snakes will only keep my losses raising until nothing could be had and then snakes suffer too, as I do not have time for them since I was forced out of this business. I am in process of trying to close out all parts of this business. But I will not release any snakes until apology is given as written above.
Good Day and Cheers
BLAH BLAH BLAH.

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Chris, you are a liar and a thief. The guy flew here from Europe to try to get his animals back from you and all you did was hide in your house. The police even tried to help mediate the situation and you refused. You have had multiple opportunities to make this right and have chosen NOT to. Plain and simple. Give Eabele his money or animals and be done with it. Oh and now you are somehow the victim? PLEASE! No one is buying that bologna!
 
It's amazing from over there you have full insight.
False however.
He came here on a sceam to have police place me under arrest and take back snakes. Officer was shown information and sent on his way since civil matter. Police officers only aid in criminal case. He was shown Eabeles document and sent packing zero mediation since civil and not criminal he was referred to my attorney twice. All Eabele ever had to do was as I ask in beginning to correct lies say he screwed off and compensate me for his wrong doings. They chose to countinue to spew lies. I do not want these things but if zero correction of false accusation zero movement so yes he kept trying to stay with lie so he was sent packing. You batter be damn sure if some one STOLE from me and I was up and Up one I would have retrieved products especially if it's as Eabele states even though he has kept exaggerating price but he said 100 k plus. Come on I would be placing injunctions cease products but Eabele is slow to respond do to his fraud and his worries. He knows what I put in questions marks and my account is 100% accurate. I however well since now his actions are causing me great losses at end of this week knotify his authorities and Ministry of Fiance. All he has to do is say yes I screwed up this part and its cost Chris, he already admitted to Kevin that its usual and costumary to falsif import docs. Everybody does it was his excuse.
 
Chris dont quote me because i never told you that anything was standard practice. You hid the fact you had the Raptors from Eabele and I both. It wasnt until Eabele told me you picked them up last week that i said wow, he didnt tell me that i will call him.

Thats when you admitted to me you had them and claimed you couldnt release them. You never told me anything about them arriving during the week and we were supposed to be friends and doing this together. You also hid the fact that you negotiated a deal to get boas sent even though you still owed about $30k and on top you negotiated having 10 raptors sent for sale in USA. I had my animals paid in full back in November, but was stuck waiting because you claimed it was a paperwork delay not the fact you had to pay your stuff off first.

You then convinced Eabele to send boas before final payment stating you would pay him once a house sold. It sold several weeks before Eabele arrived from Holland to USA.

You took advantage of Eabeles situation and his need for cash and convinced him to ship you boas that you had not fully paid for. You told me you lied to customs and said you must have put the decimal in the wrong place.

You refused to give Eabele back his animals when he came here yet want to claim your the victim in all this.
 
This is a court of public opinion and yes I have proof but will seek legal damages for liable.

also Dept of Homeland security Agricultural Division , and Fish and wildlife will be providing additional notices that I fallowed and executed our agreement to the tee.
I do have signed agreement that was fully investigated by three major government officials to give me full release to do with as I wish.
at end of this week knotify his authorities and Ministry of Fiance.

HAHAHAHAHA :rofl:

Where do you come up with this BS? (And more important, did you expect anyone over the age of three to actually take this stuff seriously?)
 
Chris Keeney you're also lying about Eable claiming that these would be the first in the US you were fully aware that there were already two female raptors in the United States and they had been here for a couple years and we're bred in 2015 and 2016. The two gentleman will confirm this because you had conversations with them in regards to this matter before the Raptors arrived in the US. You and I had conversations about this also.

Paperwork written and labeled for Customs purpose only is not a legal invoice or bill so your claim that thats all you owed to pay in full is bullcrap.

You lied and hid these animals and their arrival from Eabele and I. After a couple of days of my being fully aware of the entire story which was probably over 2 weeks after their arrival and my reaching out to you regarding this matter via text. You continued to just say stay out of this. Only liars and cheats hide things.
 
For a guy who seems to have all this cash for attorneys yet was doing a fund rasier to raise 50k to buy/adopt 2 teenage girls for the purpose of being baby sitters....

Yes you old neighbor and I talked about you and he explained a few things and had some stories about you. He was more then happy to be a charactor witness about you and his experience and knowledge of you and your time nextdoor to him.
 
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