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Bad Guy Raging Reptiles ,buyer beware

The fact of the matter is. The seller should not have a problem refuning my money asap and should not have gotten an attitude with me to start with. As for the trade. He would have made a few bucks off that. As far as Mike Shultz. I've ordered from him and he's a good guy. But Prolly needs to give Sean a lesson in buisness etiquette. I do recommend outback reptiles because he really hooked me up on some garaters early this year. Sorry bout that Mike. Sean. You need to be responsible and update your site so this doesn't happen to know one else, and refund my money.as for every one that ever orders from me. My customers are always first.
 
Mike Schultz said:
Perhaps this is why?

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Ok. And if he would have just said. I need this amount extra to equal out the shipping we would have had a deal. Instead. I get, I am NOT covering shipping cost
 
While I certainly do not agree with Sean not proceeding with a refund in a timely manner, as well as the ever popular legal threat, I can understand his frustration regarding this situation. Joseph appears to be a problematic customer who refuses to use rational thinking in regards to the whole experience and in all probability has escalated the situation with his aggressive attitude.
In my mind both are in the wrong however Joseph certainly comes off looking worse than the subject of this thread. Another one for the "do not do business with" category.
 
Cool. Send me some money then and don't say nothing when I don't send u nothing in return. The fact is. If I post something for sale. You get that exact animal with a full guarantee. But when you pay me. I give you the animal you want or a refund then. And 8 don't sell to just anyone. And since you requested it. You are on my do not sell to list now.
 
Pasodama said:
BTW Sean, a friendly word of advice, never assume a person's location solely based on their area code. Sure, the area code could represent a person's location but there are also many people who have cell phones with a different area code than their actual location.
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This is true, but it's a good idea to verify location if sending an animal that may be illegal / require permitting in the given area code.
 
demonseed38 said:
As far as Mike Shultz. I've ordered from him and he's a good guy. But Prolly needs to give Sean a lesson in buisness etiquette. I do recommend outback reptiles because he really hooked me up on some garaters early this year. Sorry bout that Mike. Sean.
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Thanks, I hope those garters are doing well!
 
I do every time. I requite a copy of drivers license, and permits if required. I also talk with the buyer to make sure they can house the animal I sell them correctly. That's why I don't sell to everyone. I have some very spectacular yellow tail cribo morphs coming available next fall. First of their kind. Only a few lucky people will get these
 
Demonseed38 is accused of being "irrational", and having an " aggressive attitude", and the immediate rebuttal is aggressive. Lol. You're not shining a good light on yourself when you condescend other members of fauna.

If you're getting the refund you're asking for, then why escalate this thread further?
 
200xth said:
So many of these threads just end up looking bad for everyone involved.
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Very true. I want it made right like any responsible buisness owner would do. It's one thing if I had gotten the animals I paid for and something happened during shipping or something. But that is totally not the case here
 
Sorry guys, I was typing my previous comment when other comments came through that I didn't get to read. Hence, the timing of my post is off, I apologize
 
demonseed38 said:
Very true. I want it made right like any responsible buisness owner would do. It's one thing if I had gotten the animals I paid for and something happened during shipping or something. But that is totally not the case here
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It is evident that you should get a refund.
I believe very, very, few people (if any) would dispute that.
How you go about obtaining that refund is important though.
Just remain reasonable & professional, in what you do/say, and all should be well (re. how people view you).
 
Just saw where you bumped up a decade+ old BOI inquiry thread, on Raging Reptiles, just so you could add something, about this current situation, in another location/thread.
Smooth move.:rolleyes:
Are you doing this elsewhere, on Fauna, too?
 
I assume that's a typo, I was only talking about retics, since somebody with a Florida area code left me a message asking about a retic.

Fauna's ability to get sidetracked and pick apart minor mundane details is impressive!
 
Mike Schultz said:
I assume that's a typo, I was only talking about retics, since somebody with a Florida area code left me a message asking about a retic.

Fauna's ability to get sidetracked and pick apart minor mundane details is impressive!
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That's what I thought Mike, just thought it was odd because I know people who have worked with you before and I'm like I'm pretty sure they know the law. haha.

Anyway, I think our OP needs to calm down a bit...as long as a refund is offered for an out of stock. I don't see any issue seeing he didn't inquire about availability first.
 
demonseed38 said:
It's a retic. They are still leagal. It's ashamed though about the burmese.
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"Conditional reptiles are not allowed to be acquired for personal possession. Reptile dealers, researchers and public exhibitors may apply for a permit to import or possess conditional snakes and lizards.

People who owned one of the following species, now listed as conditional species, before July 1, 2010 may keep their animal for the remainder of its life. These pet owners must maintain a valid reptile of concern license for these animals.

Indian or Burmese python (Python molurus)
Reticulated python (Python reticulatus)
Northern African python (Python sebae)
Southern African python (Python natalensis)
Amethystine python (Morelia amethistinus)
Scrub python (Morelia kinghorni)
Green anaconda (Eunectes murinus)
Nile monitor (Varanus niloticus)

Anyone who possesses a former reptile of concern and can no longer keep their animal may relinquish it at a Nonnative Pet Amnesty Day event or to a licensed reptile dealer. A map of licensed reptile dealers is available online."

http://myfwc.com/license/captive-wildlife/reptiles-of-concern/
 
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