joshjtd
New member
I really did not want it to come to this but Ramon seems to not want to take responsibility for his errors.
Ramon had posted an ad in the ball pythons section of a bunch of snakes he had for sale. His post had two adult normal females that caught my eye. I started an email conversation to inquire about the snakes he had:
Josh Davis [email protected]
Sep 9 (4 days ago)
to Ramon
A few questions for you. How recent are those weights? You stated that they are proven, can you please tell me the last time they were bred, how many eggs each laid, and the hatch rate you had from those clutches? Any health issues? And last but not least, how are they on eating?
Ramon Acosta
Sep 10 (3 days ago)
to me
They eat like monster, all weights are recent, they were bred last year 8 eggs %100 survival rate, no health issues
At that point, I told Ramon I would take them. Ramon had them on his ad for $125 shipped. He stated that the weights were 1600 grams and 2200 grams.
And after reading your ad, it looks as though you have $125 shipped for them?
Balls Available:
Females
Granite het albino 1200 grams visual markers bred from a friend $800shipped
Congo 600 grams Eugene stock $600 shipped
2 proven normals 1600 & 2200grams Bay Area Rept. $125 shipped
Ramon Acosta
Sep 10 (3 days ago)
to me
Yea but like yesterday I had a guy a New Mexico which shipping alone was 80 that's why at the bottom of my AD I put local preferred
Ramon Acosta
Sep 10 (3 days ago)
to me
72.59 is FedEx priority over night
I thought that was a little odd but was really looking to add to my female group for the upcoming breeding season. Ramon said that the total for the two snakes was $275 shipped. I agreed and sent payment. That is the beginning of the end.
Josh Davis Sep 10 (3 days ago)
So what would be the final total and what is a paypal address to use?
Ramon Acosta Sep 10 (3 days ago)
275 my email is my Paypal
Josh Davis Sep 10 (3 days ago)
Ok. Payment was sent.
Ramon Acosta
Sep 11 (2 days ago)
to me
Alright cool send me a shipping address and I'll try to ship out today ugly weather
Josh Davis Sep 11 (2 days ago)
How will you be shipping?
Ramon Acosta Sep 11 (2 days ago)
Postal or FedEx
Josh Davis [email protected]
Sep 11 (2 days ago)
to Ramon
Depending on how you ship will determine where you ship to. I do recommend shipping overnight fedex though. US postal service can not promise an overnight delivery. For the health of the snakes, please ship that way. I can accept Fedex at :
Josh Davis
address
Rapid City, SD
57702
This is my work address. I cannot accept USPS here as we don't have a mail box at this building so anything that is sent through them is returned. Please do not ship USPS to the above address.
Josh Davis [email protected]
Sep 11 (2 days ago)
to Ramon
Also in your earlier email, you quoted $72.59 for Fedex priority overnight. Please ship that way. Send me an email of the tracking info once they have shipped
Josh Davis [email protected]
Sep 11 (2 days ago)
to Ramon
I would also like to say that I will put up a good guy ad and put positive feedback on your trader rating once this deal is complete and the girls arrive safe and sound.
Ramon Acosta Sep 11 (2 days ago)
Alright no problem
Josh Davis Sep 11 (2 days ago)
Where are you shipping from?
Ramon Acosta
Sep 11 (2 days ago)
to me
Spring hill Florida, **** I was going to ask if you could of done it over the phone thru Square up
He explained that square up doesn't have the fees that paypal does and he get the payment direct that way. I told him that I was more comfortable with Paypal and he said that was fine.
He was unable to ship that day do to other obligations. No biggy, life happens so I waited to the next day. He sent me the tracking info along with pics of the receipt and the package.
The package you see in the picture is a 11x11x2 box. How you see it on the scale is how I got it. No air holes, insulating foam, and certainly a bit on the small side to be shipping to be shipping two adult females.
Today comes and I get the package. I see the packaged is bulged a bit on the top. As stated above, no air holes and not a standard reptile shipping box. I open it and bring out the two juvi snake bags. I pull both snakes out of the bags and they are cold to the touch (I live in SD and the night temps are starting to dip a bit). I put them in an insulated box with some heat. I am looking at these two snakes and thinking they are a bit smaller from what they are advertised. I had them shipped to my work so I didn't have my scale and probes with me. I told Ramon that they looked a bit small but I would weigh them once I was off of work.
Josh Davis [email protected]
1:46 PM (8 hours ago)
to Ramon
I just got the package. I do not have my scale with me but I will get weights and probe them once I get home. That box was fairly small to pack to adult snakes in. There were also no air holes or anything like that. The one gal also appears to be a bit small but as I stated, I will check the weights when I get home.
Ramon Acosta
2:02 PM (8 hours ago)
to me
I don't know if you ever shipped snakes before but they do not need airholes. Snake bags and boxes allow ventilation. I've seen snakes packed tighter. Glad to hear you got them on time. I sent them from the shipping center to reduce stress and travel time which burned a lot of gas, that was the smallest box they had the larger box would of been more expensive to ship out which as you seen from the photos most rest came out of pocket due. I did say one female was in the two thousand gram range the other was a lil under but not by much. She also just out of shed which I didn't want to ship during and I never ship a snake out on a full stomach which can get them sick prior to my AD they went off feed and the larger female came out of shed over last weekend which I can provide pictures being I still have.
It should also be noted that the snakes were shipped standard overnight and not priority as stated. Back to the weights, I toss the small gal on the scale. She clocks in at just over 800 grams! Half the weight advertised. I toss the second gal on there, just under 1300 grams, also almost half the weight advertised. I then use sexing probes on the snakes. I will freely admit that I am a new comer at sexing snakes but they appeared to be males to me.
I send Ramon an email stating my findings and call my vet as I wanted a second opinion on the correct sex of the snakes. The vet that handles reptiles was off so I called one of my fellow local breeders for a second opinion. She sexed them as female so I accepted this. I let Ramon know and told him that the weights were still way off and these two would not be ready to breed.
We have a bit of an issue. I got home and took weights on these gals. One gal is 900 grams and the other is just over 1300 grams. I am headed to the vet now as I probed them and they appear to be males. I will keep you posted but this is way off what you said it would be.
Ramon Acosta
4:35 PM (5 hours ago)
to me
Sorry about that I was given sure females from the breeder Ray phitzer when I brought them
Josh Davis [email protected]
4:42 PM (5 hours ago)
to Ramon
How long ago were they purchased? We need to work something out as this is way off. If the vet confirms they are male, they are of no use. If they do turn out to be female, they are not breeding weight and will not go this year.
Ramon Acosta
5:19 PM (5 hours ago)
to me
They're still breeding weight, females have to be 1200grams in order to breed sorry the weights were off I guess my scale was really broken. Brought them back in March, they were probed myself and by the breeder
Josh Davis [email protected]
5:42 PM (4 hours ago)
to Ramon
They are not breeding weight. The one is barely 900 grams. The other is just over 1300. 1500 is the minimum. I will send the sexing results over tomorrow once the reptile vet is in tomorrow. We need to work something out
Josh Davis [email protected]
7:57 PM (2 hours ago)
to Ramon
I am willing to work with you but those weights are way off. I just had another local breeder take a look at them. They are female so that is good but her opinion is also that they are not going to be breedable this year. I would like to work out something since they were not as advertised. I do not want to go to the BOI with this but will if needed. Please work with me.
Ramon Acosta
8:01 PM (2 hours ago)
to me
How do you feed your snakes cause I know if I kept them I would breed them this year reaching that 1500gram mark ain't hard with proper feeding, breeding season is still a long way. Females don't ovulate usually until Jan. Im willing to work with you.
Ramon Acosta
8:05 PM (2 hours ago)
to me
If you like you can ship them back, and I'll refund your payment.
Josh Davis [email protected]
8:09 PM (2 hours ago)
to Ramon
I feed my snakes once a week. The size of the meal is dependent on the size of the animal. Breeding season starts in November. The issue here is that I was expecting two adult females of the weights advertised. These gals are both far under those weights.
I am willing to ship back but I would require a full refund plus my cost to ship since the gals were almost half the weight advertised. Please let me know what you would like to do.
Ramon Acosta
8:16 PM (2 hours ago)
to me
Shipping back would be at your expense being that the shipping cost me more than what I quoted. Along with gas spent to take it to the main shipping center. I feed my snakes usually every 4 days gearing up from breeding season. I do apologize for the scale being inaccurate due to moving damage. Being that I paid for shipping that would put me in the hole, as why I charge for shipping I can't take a loss on that.
Josh Davis [email protected]
8:20 PM (2 hours ago)
to Ramon
So you are telling me, that I should take a loss on this deal? How is that fair? First off, your ad said $125 shipped. I paid some of the shipping to begin with. Second, these snakes are WAY lighter than advertised. They were not represented correctly. I asked all the questions and got inaccurate answers. I will not take a loss on this either, so that option is not going to work.
Ramon Acosta
8:24 PM (2 hours ago)
to me
Best I can do is see where not going to come to an agreement and your getting a little in professional about it. I can issue a payment back for one of the snakes and you can keep the other free.
Now I will admit from the exchange above, I could have used a bit better tone when replying but I did not take well to getting animals that were have the size as advertised then being told, I would be the one to take the loss.
I also didn't care for being called unprofessional about asking to be compensated for being sent animals that were not as described.
There is more of an exchange in which I am called inept for doubting the sex of the snakes and not understanding "proper" shipping.
Josh Davis [email protected]
8:33 PM (2 hours ago)
to Ramon
I dont think I am the unprofessional one here. I am simply asking for a resolution on a deal we made where the animals I received greatly differed from what the ad said. Name calling will not diffuse this situation.
Ramon Acosta
8:44 PM (1 hour ago)
to me
There was no name calling involved your greatly mistaken and confused. You message me saying they were males due to your in experience at probing, you had a friend that had to tell you they were in fact females. My AD was in local preferred prices were ship for local of Florida. Im sorry if you misread, but due to the fact of your knowledge on how snakes are shipped and sex it makes me wonder your credibility and your not just trying to scam. Only way I'll issue a full refund if you ship at your expense provide tracking number and once I see it's the same females I sent out issue a refund. Option 2 is partial refund for payment of one of the females and you keep the other female free of charge being that one female is still able to breed being at your desired weight. I provided info from the previous breeder as requested and all info best to my knowledge.
I didnt get a screen shot of the original ad but I did get a copy and paste of it. No where did it state FL shipping only:
Balls Available:
Females
Granite het albino 1200 grams visual markers bred from a friend $800shipped
Congo 600 grams Eugene stock $600 shipped
2 proven normals 1600 & 2200grams Bay Area Rept. $125 shipped
Sub adult 800 $100 shipped
Males
Amir Spider reduced pattern high white & gold brother is a super 2400 grams no Nero $180 shipped
Amir Mojave tons of blush proven 1800 grams $250 shipped
Pastel Yellowbelly male Ben Sigel 400 grams 350 shipped
Amir Lesser 300 grams $200 shipped
Packages and discounts available need to move fast local preferred but will ship, payments through Paypal, Square Up, Money Order or CASH
Contact direct to
[email protected]
407 470 0352
Pic 1 granite het albino
Pic 2 Congo
Pic 3 spider
Pic 4 Mojave
Josh Davis [email protected]
8:50 PM (1 hour ago)
to Ramon
Alright since you want to say I am inept and trying to scam you, I will be taking this to the BOI. Not sure how you can say that my credibility is questionable as I sent the payment as agreed. I asked you to work with me but instead you seem more eager to toss around insults. Not a good way to do business. If you want to apologize and continue to come to an agreement, I am willing. I will send you pictures of the weights if you would like.
Ramon Acosta
9:06 PM (1 hour ago)
to me
Send pictures it's fine. You want to take it up with BOI fine. I gave you 2 options, I didn't insult you clearly, nor was there any name calling. Your inexperience was something you stated when you said you probed them and they're males when it took your friend and she said they were females when she probed them. Im just quoting you Josh, and then you said air holes no breeder ships a box with air holes any box with holes in it are deemed unshippable and are sent back or void for shipping. I quote you again when you said a comfortable breeding weight for you is 1500 grams when in fact one of the females is at that mark. All breeders know a female has to be 1200 grams and at least 2 years old for breeding. The females are 4 years old, and breeding season ain't for another 2 more months with full peak ovulation another 4 months away. Which females start getting a more veracious appetite by then. You feed them small prey fine but those females are use to taking on large prey. working in business along time and understand can't make every customer happy all the time. I did apologies several times and I'll do it once more, I'm sorry for the inconvenience and the defaulted equipment.
I then send Ramon an email stating I will accept the partial refund and an apology.
Josh Davis [email protected]
9:05 PM (1 hour ago)
to Ramon
Here is the ad. No where did it state that was FL shipping price. You did say local preferred. I will accept the partial refund as long as it comes with an apology
Ramon Acosta
9:08 PM (1 hour ago)
to me
Im sorry but that it wasn't too specific enough, but other clients did understand by local preferred when inquiring.
Ramon Acosta
9:09 PM (1 hour ago)
to me
I issues several apologies already not another more will be issued.
If you look at the pictures you can clearly see that the one gal fits in the scale bowl with ease. Not breeding size by a long shot. I also understand that you can breed at 1200 grams. Your yield will be low and there is more of a risk for egg binding which is why I prefer 1500 grams minimum. I was looking for bigger gals for more eggs.
Ramon had posted an ad in the ball pythons section of a bunch of snakes he had for sale. His post had two adult normal females that caught my eye. I started an email conversation to inquire about the snakes he had:
Josh Davis [email protected]
Sep 9 (4 days ago)
to Ramon
A few questions for you. How recent are those weights? You stated that they are proven, can you please tell me the last time they were bred, how many eggs each laid, and the hatch rate you had from those clutches? Any health issues? And last but not least, how are they on eating?
Ramon Acosta
Sep 10 (3 days ago)
to me
They eat like monster, all weights are recent, they were bred last year 8 eggs %100 survival rate, no health issues
At that point, I told Ramon I would take them. Ramon had them on his ad for $125 shipped. He stated that the weights were 1600 grams and 2200 grams.
And after reading your ad, it looks as though you have $125 shipped for them?
Balls Available:
Females
Granite het albino 1200 grams visual markers bred from a friend $800shipped
Congo 600 grams Eugene stock $600 shipped
2 proven normals 1600 & 2200grams Bay Area Rept. $125 shipped
Ramon Acosta
Sep 10 (3 days ago)
to me
Yea but like yesterday I had a guy a New Mexico which shipping alone was 80 that's why at the bottom of my AD I put local preferred
Ramon Acosta
Sep 10 (3 days ago)
to me
72.59 is FedEx priority over night
I thought that was a little odd but was really looking to add to my female group for the upcoming breeding season. Ramon said that the total for the two snakes was $275 shipped. I agreed and sent payment. That is the beginning of the end.
Josh Davis Sep 10 (3 days ago)
So what would be the final total and what is a paypal address to use?
Ramon Acosta Sep 10 (3 days ago)
275 my email is my Paypal
Josh Davis Sep 10 (3 days ago)
Ok. Payment was sent.
Ramon Acosta
Sep 11 (2 days ago)
to me
Alright cool send me a shipping address and I'll try to ship out today ugly weather
Josh Davis Sep 11 (2 days ago)
How will you be shipping?
Ramon Acosta Sep 11 (2 days ago)
Postal or FedEx
Josh Davis [email protected]
Sep 11 (2 days ago)
to Ramon
Depending on how you ship will determine where you ship to. I do recommend shipping overnight fedex though. US postal service can not promise an overnight delivery. For the health of the snakes, please ship that way. I can accept Fedex at :
Josh Davis
address
Rapid City, SD
57702
This is my work address. I cannot accept USPS here as we don't have a mail box at this building so anything that is sent through them is returned. Please do not ship USPS to the above address.
Josh Davis [email protected]
Sep 11 (2 days ago)
to Ramon
Also in your earlier email, you quoted $72.59 for Fedex priority overnight. Please ship that way. Send me an email of the tracking info once they have shipped
Josh Davis [email protected]
Sep 11 (2 days ago)
to Ramon
I would also like to say that I will put up a good guy ad and put positive feedback on your trader rating once this deal is complete and the girls arrive safe and sound.
Ramon Acosta Sep 11 (2 days ago)
Alright no problem
Josh Davis Sep 11 (2 days ago)
Where are you shipping from?
Ramon Acosta
Sep 11 (2 days ago)
to me
Spring hill Florida, **** I was going to ask if you could of done it over the phone thru Square up
He explained that square up doesn't have the fees that paypal does and he get the payment direct that way. I told him that I was more comfortable with Paypal and he said that was fine.
He was unable to ship that day do to other obligations. No biggy, life happens so I waited to the next day. He sent me the tracking info along with pics of the receipt and the package.
The package you see in the picture is a 11x11x2 box. How you see it on the scale is how I got it. No air holes, insulating foam, and certainly a bit on the small side to be shipping to be shipping two adult females.
Today comes and I get the package. I see the packaged is bulged a bit on the top. As stated above, no air holes and not a standard reptile shipping box. I open it and bring out the two juvi snake bags. I pull both snakes out of the bags and they are cold to the touch (I live in SD and the night temps are starting to dip a bit). I put them in an insulated box with some heat. I am looking at these two snakes and thinking they are a bit smaller from what they are advertised. I had them shipped to my work so I didn't have my scale and probes with me. I told Ramon that they looked a bit small but I would weigh them once I was off of work.
Josh Davis [email protected]
1:46 PM (8 hours ago)
to Ramon
I just got the package. I do not have my scale with me but I will get weights and probe them once I get home. That box was fairly small to pack to adult snakes in. There were also no air holes or anything like that. The one gal also appears to be a bit small but as I stated, I will check the weights when I get home.
Ramon Acosta
2:02 PM (8 hours ago)
to me
I don't know if you ever shipped snakes before but they do not need airholes. Snake bags and boxes allow ventilation. I've seen snakes packed tighter. Glad to hear you got them on time. I sent them from the shipping center to reduce stress and travel time which burned a lot of gas, that was the smallest box they had the larger box would of been more expensive to ship out which as you seen from the photos most rest came out of pocket due. I did say one female was in the two thousand gram range the other was a lil under but not by much. She also just out of shed which I didn't want to ship during and I never ship a snake out on a full stomach which can get them sick prior to my AD they went off feed and the larger female came out of shed over last weekend which I can provide pictures being I still have.
It should also be noted that the snakes were shipped standard overnight and not priority as stated. Back to the weights, I toss the small gal on the scale. She clocks in at just over 800 grams! Half the weight advertised. I toss the second gal on there, just under 1300 grams, also almost half the weight advertised. I then use sexing probes on the snakes. I will freely admit that I am a new comer at sexing snakes but they appeared to be males to me.
I send Ramon an email stating my findings and call my vet as I wanted a second opinion on the correct sex of the snakes. The vet that handles reptiles was off so I called one of my fellow local breeders for a second opinion. She sexed them as female so I accepted this. I let Ramon know and told him that the weights were still way off and these two would not be ready to breed.
We have a bit of an issue. I got home and took weights on these gals. One gal is 900 grams and the other is just over 1300 grams. I am headed to the vet now as I probed them and they appear to be males. I will keep you posted but this is way off what you said it would be.
Ramon Acosta
4:35 PM (5 hours ago)
to me
Sorry about that I was given sure females from the breeder Ray phitzer when I brought them
Josh Davis [email protected]
4:42 PM (5 hours ago)
to Ramon
How long ago were they purchased? We need to work something out as this is way off. If the vet confirms they are male, they are of no use. If they do turn out to be female, they are not breeding weight and will not go this year.
Ramon Acosta
5:19 PM (5 hours ago)
to me
They're still breeding weight, females have to be 1200grams in order to breed sorry the weights were off I guess my scale was really broken. Brought them back in March, they were probed myself and by the breeder
Josh Davis [email protected]
5:42 PM (4 hours ago)
to Ramon
They are not breeding weight. The one is barely 900 grams. The other is just over 1300. 1500 is the minimum. I will send the sexing results over tomorrow once the reptile vet is in tomorrow. We need to work something out
Josh Davis [email protected]
7:57 PM (2 hours ago)
to Ramon
I am willing to work with you but those weights are way off. I just had another local breeder take a look at them. They are female so that is good but her opinion is also that they are not going to be breedable this year. I would like to work out something since they were not as advertised. I do not want to go to the BOI with this but will if needed. Please work with me.
Ramon Acosta
8:01 PM (2 hours ago)
to me
How do you feed your snakes cause I know if I kept them I would breed them this year reaching that 1500gram mark ain't hard with proper feeding, breeding season is still a long way. Females don't ovulate usually until Jan. Im willing to work with you.
Ramon Acosta
8:05 PM (2 hours ago)
to me
If you like you can ship them back, and I'll refund your payment.
Josh Davis [email protected]
8:09 PM (2 hours ago)
to Ramon
I feed my snakes once a week. The size of the meal is dependent on the size of the animal. Breeding season starts in November. The issue here is that I was expecting two adult females of the weights advertised. These gals are both far under those weights.
I am willing to ship back but I would require a full refund plus my cost to ship since the gals were almost half the weight advertised. Please let me know what you would like to do.
Ramon Acosta
8:16 PM (2 hours ago)
to me
Shipping back would be at your expense being that the shipping cost me more than what I quoted. Along with gas spent to take it to the main shipping center. I feed my snakes usually every 4 days gearing up from breeding season. I do apologize for the scale being inaccurate due to moving damage. Being that I paid for shipping that would put me in the hole, as why I charge for shipping I can't take a loss on that.
Josh Davis [email protected]
8:20 PM (2 hours ago)
to Ramon
So you are telling me, that I should take a loss on this deal? How is that fair? First off, your ad said $125 shipped. I paid some of the shipping to begin with. Second, these snakes are WAY lighter than advertised. They were not represented correctly. I asked all the questions and got inaccurate answers. I will not take a loss on this either, so that option is not going to work.
Ramon Acosta
8:24 PM (2 hours ago)
to me
Best I can do is see where not going to come to an agreement and your getting a little in professional about it. I can issue a payment back for one of the snakes and you can keep the other free.
Now I will admit from the exchange above, I could have used a bit better tone when replying but I did not take well to getting animals that were have the size as advertised then being told, I would be the one to take the loss.
I also didn't care for being called unprofessional about asking to be compensated for being sent animals that were not as described.
There is more of an exchange in which I am called inept for doubting the sex of the snakes and not understanding "proper" shipping.
Josh Davis [email protected]
8:33 PM (2 hours ago)
to Ramon
I dont think I am the unprofessional one here. I am simply asking for a resolution on a deal we made where the animals I received greatly differed from what the ad said. Name calling will not diffuse this situation.
Ramon Acosta
8:44 PM (1 hour ago)
to me
There was no name calling involved your greatly mistaken and confused. You message me saying they were males due to your in experience at probing, you had a friend that had to tell you they were in fact females. My AD was in local preferred prices were ship for local of Florida. Im sorry if you misread, but due to the fact of your knowledge on how snakes are shipped and sex it makes me wonder your credibility and your not just trying to scam. Only way I'll issue a full refund if you ship at your expense provide tracking number and once I see it's the same females I sent out issue a refund. Option 2 is partial refund for payment of one of the females and you keep the other female free of charge being that one female is still able to breed being at your desired weight. I provided info from the previous breeder as requested and all info best to my knowledge.
I didnt get a screen shot of the original ad but I did get a copy and paste of it. No where did it state FL shipping only:
Balls Available:
Females
Granite het albino 1200 grams visual markers bred from a friend $800shipped
Congo 600 grams Eugene stock $600 shipped
2 proven normals 1600 & 2200grams Bay Area Rept. $125 shipped
Sub adult 800 $100 shipped
Males
Amir Spider reduced pattern high white & gold brother is a super 2400 grams no Nero $180 shipped
Amir Mojave tons of blush proven 1800 grams $250 shipped
Pastel Yellowbelly male Ben Sigel 400 grams 350 shipped
Amir Lesser 300 grams $200 shipped
Packages and discounts available need to move fast local preferred but will ship, payments through Paypal, Square Up, Money Order or CASH
Contact direct to
[email protected]
407 470 0352
Pic 1 granite het albino
Pic 2 Congo
Pic 3 spider
Pic 4 Mojave
Josh Davis [email protected]
8:50 PM (1 hour ago)
to Ramon
Alright since you want to say I am inept and trying to scam you, I will be taking this to the BOI. Not sure how you can say that my credibility is questionable as I sent the payment as agreed. I asked you to work with me but instead you seem more eager to toss around insults. Not a good way to do business. If you want to apologize and continue to come to an agreement, I am willing. I will send you pictures of the weights if you would like.
Ramon Acosta
9:06 PM (1 hour ago)
to me
Send pictures it's fine. You want to take it up with BOI fine. I gave you 2 options, I didn't insult you clearly, nor was there any name calling. Your inexperience was something you stated when you said you probed them and they're males when it took your friend and she said they were females when she probed them. Im just quoting you Josh, and then you said air holes no breeder ships a box with air holes any box with holes in it are deemed unshippable and are sent back or void for shipping. I quote you again when you said a comfortable breeding weight for you is 1500 grams when in fact one of the females is at that mark. All breeders know a female has to be 1200 grams and at least 2 years old for breeding. The females are 4 years old, and breeding season ain't for another 2 more months with full peak ovulation another 4 months away. Which females start getting a more veracious appetite by then. You feed them small prey fine but those females are use to taking on large prey. working in business along time and understand can't make every customer happy all the time. I did apologies several times and I'll do it once more, I'm sorry for the inconvenience and the defaulted equipment.
I then send Ramon an email stating I will accept the partial refund and an apology.
Josh Davis [email protected]
9:05 PM (1 hour ago)
to Ramon
Here is the ad. No where did it state that was FL shipping price. You did say local preferred. I will accept the partial refund as long as it comes with an apology
Ramon Acosta
9:08 PM (1 hour ago)
to me
Im sorry but that it wasn't too specific enough, but other clients did understand by local preferred when inquiring.
Ramon Acosta
9:09 PM (1 hour ago)
to me
I issues several apologies already not another more will be issued.
If you look at the pictures you can clearly see that the one gal fits in the scale bowl with ease. Not breeding size by a long shot. I also understand that you can breed at 1200 grams. Your yield will be low and there is more of a risk for egg binding which is why I prefer 1500 grams minimum. I was looking for bigger gals for more eggs.
