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Ray's Reptilia and North Port Reptiles... one and the same?

Who

Dear Kat

Who with any sense looks at a picture and makes an absolute conclusion.

I bet you believe in the lochness monster casue you saw a picture of it .

and big foot too

The corn snake was cut into a 3 pieces so the king could eat it.

and by the way they love to eat corn snakes.


Ray Torres
 
That is exactly it .I dont know anyone here as no one here knows me .You see how inapproprite it is to be accused when you just dont know. Well that is what you all have been doing to me for 3 years now.

We only know what has been shown to us by others about you, what you have shown yourself to be with your own posts, and what we have seen on your very own website.

That's more than enough for me.
 
raysreptilia said:
I am sorry as I was not aware of your condition.

Ray Torres

No biggie, Ray. I'm not using it as an excuse but as a point. Attacking others is doing you no good. You have 3 websites and a slew of bad guy threads that link back to you. Address those issues and stop all the BS. If you have solid proof that your on the up and up post it. Discredit your accusers and prove your point. Till then either admit your mistakes and fix them or walk away from the computer and move on. JMO
 
raysreptilia said:
Dear Kat

Who with any sense looks at a picture and makes an absolute conclusion.

I bet you believe in the lochness monster casue you saw a picture of it .

and big foot too

The corn snake was cut into a 3 pieces so the king could eat it.

and by the way they love to eat corn snakes.


Ray Torres

Common sense would tell most of us Ray, that even cut into 3 pieces, the volume of the corn snake stays the same, which is too much for the king to be fed. And just because they "can" or they "love it", doesn't mean it's right, or good for them.
 
wow

never give your dog any table scraps .

I am sure all of you live your lives in perfect peace and harmony.Never making a mistake never even having a bad thought.

Since when did you become the kingsnake volume expert.


Ray Torres
 
Food volume

If you dont like the picture of the snake eating the other snake dont go look at it .

dont type in www.raysreptilia.com any more simple as that.

The snake at the corn snake w/o any problems .

The burden of proof in on the accuser .I dont have to run around and spend countless hours posting reciepts and emails.

You see someome comes on here and says they sky has fallen and it is so and so's fault and the rest of ya say yeah so and so is a bad guy .

That's not how it works.

That's why any business or institution that is based on public opininon and not law is doomed.


Ray Torres
 
raysreptilia said:
Show me some proof of my USPS snake shipping or let it rest.

Ray Torres

DavidBeard said:
I have a complaint/warning to issue concerning Ray Torres of Ray's Reptilia....last week I purchased a snake from Ray. He was prompt in answering my e-mails and was very cordial. I had noticed that he had a good guy post here on the BOI and after discussing the snake with him, I felt comfortable enough to go ahead with the purchase. I sent him the money via PayPal and all was good....we arranged a shipping arrival date for yesterday (11/4/04)........I had asked Ray on Tuesday/Wednesday (can't remember, will check exact dates of e-mails) what carrier he planned on using and if he would provide me with a tracking number....I got no response....I was expecting the snake to arrive before 10:30 am as most overnight shippings occur.....10:30 am on Thursday rolls around, no snake yet.....11:30, no snake.....I have to leave for work at 12 pm so I cannot wait any longer for the snake to arrive. Luckily there was someone else at my house to receive the snake when it arrived eventually at 1:30 PM.

What disturbed me greatly when I came home shortly after the snake arrived at my home was the carrier he used.....he shipped the snake via the United States Postal Service! It was a Priority package, and I know this can sometimes take 1-3 days to arrive....not only was the carrier unacceptable, but the box was VERY poorly packaged.....there was absolutely no padding, no insulation, nothing in the box except a small tupperware with aspen.....but no snake either!!! The snake had escaped the container and was crawling around inside the box!!! What also troubled me was the temperatures for yesterday....it was in the 40's when the snake arrived with no heat pack. Both myself and the snake are lucky she survived the trip.

In truth, the snake seems no worse for wear and is very nice looking, but I cannot keep my mouth shut when an animal is shipped in such a deplorable fashion. I would not purchase from him again unless he drastically changes his shipping methods.

I have e-mailed Ray several times since yesterday and I have yet to hear from him.....he was VERY quick to answer my e-mails when I was inquiring about and purchasing the animal, but he disappears when a problem arises? Not good IMO.

Also, I noticed he placed another ad for the exact same snake I purchased from him on KS.com yesterday.....same picture, same info.....same snake. This also troubles me quite a bit.....why is that snake up for sale if I have it??
there was a lady there that was getting a snake sent by this guy. I don't know what kind of snake it was, but it was in an Express Mail box, and had sat at the post office for a while. It has been 38 degrees here for 3 days.
The box obviuosly had no padding or anything to support the snake, as when she shoke the box (at my request lightly) the snake was clearly shifting around within the box.

In my honest opinion this guy is a complete SCUMBAG!!
Why do I say this:
1) You don't send snakes through USPS.
2) You put some insulation in the box to secure the animal.
3) You look at a funny thing called the "weather channel" and determine if a heat pack is needed and packed accordingly.

You Ray in my opinion are a complete.............well you fill in the blanks.

raysreptilia said:
I am a good business person and have had several hundred happy customers .I send these animals out with the greatest of care and with the greatest of intentions I pad the boxes with newpaper and I place heat packs in the cages whenver neccesary.The initial animal that was spoken about in this post arrived alive and well and the customer was happy with it.As for the aniaml that arrived yesterday in Texas That package was quadruple lined with foam packing and the animal was safe and secure in a padded deli cup in the center.If you heard something move it was most likely the heat pack ..How you can make an assumption and pass judgement on me or any other herper from only hearing one side of the story is beyond me ..I too have read many of the posts on here and see that there are some folks who just dont have anything better to do than to write their opinions w/o having nearly all the facts...
As for the young lady in Texas they where so happy with their purchase that they bought another snake from me today.I shipped it to them in the same fashion as the first ....
I don't have time to play these games so I will not be answering any more of these silly threads...

To call someone names and not have all the facts is just ignorant !!!

Ray
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55524
 
raysreptilia said:
never give your dog any table scraps .

I am sure all of you live your lives in perfect peace and harmony.Never making a mistake never even having a bad thought.

Since when did you become the kingsnake volume expert.


Ray Torres

My dogs get small amounts of table scraps, nothing as large as they are.

And again Ray, I never claimed to be an expert, I just use common sense, which some folks just seem to be naturally lacking in. If I make "mistakes" I don't post pictures of them for all to see, as if I thought they were something cool to brag about. I just do my best to make them right.

And....I didn't go to your site to see the picture, it was posted here. I never would have seen it otherwise. I have no desire to go to your site.
 
Originally Posted by raysreptilia
I am a good business person

I don't have time to play these games so I will not be answering any more of these silly threads...

To call someone names and not have all the facts is just ignorant !!!

Ray

What did you do about this two situations?
Silly Threads?

Someone had problems with a transaction with you. Instead addressing your customer service skills you came on here blasting, Good Businessman indeed.


Mr. Good Businessman,

The kids in this thread would like their frog.
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/for...ead.php?t=73307
One of your other customers is waiting to hear from you in this one.
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/for...ad.php?p=331966
 
Like I said

Where is the proof .

This is what I am talking about some guy says he came across some lady at the post office With a package from me .What was the ladies name.what city .I mean gimme something here.

As for the original post from david beard .Saying the same thing this guy sent my snake via the post office .Show me the packing slip show me the box something .
I have several employees and I havce strict rules on what is shipped and how We never ship snakes usps.

David proved to be the most childish of persons calling me all of those names like he did .When admittedly He says he recieved a nice snake from me that was very nice.


Ray Torres
 
Dig a lil more Dennis

Dig a lil more .This whole he said she said stuff means nothing to me .
Show me some real proof

Ray Torres
 
This is the same thing I always get .Someone posts a one liner with nothing to back up what they are saying and the rest of you run with it
go back and look at my posts .You will see that when that first person writes something it is considered law .I guess i should have run ti the boi first that way my point of veiw wiould have been there first therefore it must be the truth in it's entirety.

Ray Torres
 
The kids got their frog

I overnighted her frog to her just like I said I would.


Ray Torres

I will look for the tracking numbers now
 
Okay, since the people who had problems are wrong, why don't you post proof?
 
raysreptilia said:
Where is the proof .

This is what I am talking about some guy says he came across some lady at the post office With a package from me .What was the ladies name.what city .I mean gimme something here.

As for the original post from david beard .Saying the same thing this guy sent my snake via the post office .Show me the packing slip show me the box something .
I have several employees and I havce strict rules on what is shipped and how We never ship snakes usps.

David proved to be the most childish of persons calling me all of those names like he did .When admittedly He says he recieved a nice snake from me that was very nice.


Ray Torres
I will take David’s word over yours any day.

You didn't deny it. You said you shipped the same way you did before.

You admitted to the shipment Greg witnessed at the post office
.


As for the aniaml that arrived yesterday in Texas That package was quadruple lined with foam packing and the animal was safe and secure in a padded deli cup in the center.If you heard something move it was most likely the heat pack ..How you can make an assumption and pass judgement on me or any other herper from only hearing one side of the story is beyond me ..I too have read many of the posts on here and see that there are some folks who just dont have anything better to do than to write their opinions w/o having nearly all the facts...
As for the young lady in Texas they where so happy with their purchase that they bought another snake from me today.I shipped it to them in the same fashion as the first ....

If you didn't ship it by post office and Greg Didn't see it, How come you admitted to the same shipment in the quote above. You are proven.
 
gmherps said:
there was a lady there that was getting a snake sent by this guy. I don't know what kind of snake it was, but it was in an Express Mail box, and had sat at the post office for a while. It has been 38 degrees here for 3 days.
The box obviuosly had no padding or anything to support the snake, as when she shoke the box (at my request lightly) the snake was clearly shifting around within the box.

In my honest opinion this guy is a complete SCUMBAG!!
Why do I say this:
1) You don't send snakes through USPS.
2) You put some insulation in the box to secure the animal.
3) You look at a funny thing called the "weather channel" and determine if a heat pack is needed and packed accordingly.

You Ray in my opinion are a complete.............well you fill in the blanks.

I will take Greg Holland's Word over yours any day.[/COLOR]

Oh, I don't have to. You admitted to that shipment. Oops!
 
Frog delivery tracking numbers

The frog was shipped to Jamie martins Sister at her request.

The name was
Chandler Roberts
1628 County Rd#66
Proctorville Ohio 45669

It was shipped overnight 1030 am service through DHL

Here are the tracking numbers .

28814507256


Track results detail


Tracking results detail for 28814507256 Help

Tracking summary
Current Status Shipment delivered.
View Signature

Delivered on 11/23/2005 1:46 pm
Delivered to Receptionist
Signed for by C ROBERTSWhat is this?




Tracking history Help

Date and Time Status Location
11/23/2005 1:46 pm Shipment delivered.
Picked Up by DHL.

Ship From:

RAYS REPTILIA
Fort Myers, FL 33907
United States
Ship To:
CHANDLE ROBERTS
Proctorville, OH 45669
United States
Shipment Information:
Ship date:
Pieces: 1
Total weight: 2 lbs *


Attention:
RAYS REPTILIA

Attention:
CHANDLE ROBERTS
Ship Type: Package

Shipment Reference:
Service: Next Day
Special Service:

Description:

Tracking detail provided by DHL: 4/24/2006, 8:15:32 pm pt.
 
Try again

I can look up her shipment too

The package that was sent to through the post office was a bearded dragon.

The snake that she purchase was sent the same as the first .I was referring to the package being lined with foam and heat packs .We dont ship snakes via fedex.
 
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