Bad Guy Reptidoc Dr. Darryl G. Walker

[Reptileman81]

No it is not creepy. I picked you out cause of our problems in the past. You dont know when to stop. You just keep on with your bullying. Yes it is possible to press charges on you over this. Even though it is a public form I have asked you to leave me be over and over and over again.

I really dont care if it makes me look foolish. I think you look like you just can not stop pushing someone around. I will not be pushed around anymore by you. I want nothing more to do with you.

So this is the last time I will ask you before I take this to the proper authorities. Please I am on my knees beginning you please. I am at your mercy. You won. You are the better person. Now please please do not ever contact me or post on my threads that I start again. If by chance we are both posting on the same thread that is not started by either one of us we will have nothing to say to each other. Please please please if you are any kind of decent human being leave me alone please.

I do not know how much more sensor I can be about wanting to have nothing more to do with you.

 

[starsevol]

No it is not creepy. I picked you out cause of our problems in the past. You dont know when to stop. You just keep on with your bullying. Yes it is possible to press charges on you over this. Even though it is a public form I have asked you to leave me be over and over and over again.

I really dont care if it makes me look foolish. I think you look like you just can not stop pushing someone around. I will not be pushed around anymore by you. I want nothing more to do with you.

So this is the last time I will ask you before I take this to the proper authorities. Please I am on my knees beginning you please. I am at your mercy. You won. You are the better person. Now please please do not ever contact me or post on my threads that I start again. If by chance we are both posting on the same thread that is not started by either one of us we will have nothing to say to each other. Please please please if you are any kind of decent human being leave me alone please.

I do not know how much more sensor I can be about wanting to have nothing more to do with you.

In a PUBLIC forum, I will post what I please. Thankyouverymuch!
And I don't take kindly to threats either.

 

[Outcast]

You you can back off you know nothing of me or my love or care or anything of my animals. Is it wrong of me to dene my snakes a vet visit maybe. Depending on what is wrong. If it is something simple that I can not treat then no I should take them to the vet cause they will get better. But if it is something untreatable then no I should not have to take it to the vet unless I am going to pay him/her to put it down. I can do that myself as I have stated that I did. The other 3 that died one was in transit not my fault but was taken care of. The other 2 just up and died. One after 2 feedings and a regurg the other after almost 2 months with no real signs of illness besides it being really really small. As it was when I received it. As the one that it was replaced for was very very small and very very dead. Not my fault. In the future do I plan to take some animals to the vet sure if it is necessary, needed and will help.

Who are you to judge whether I should own a living thing or not. Tell you what my address is on a few of those documents why dont you call the local authorities and have them pay me a visit for animal neglect. When those said people get here they will find nothing wrong with my husbandry, care, or animals. Come on I am not scared. If you are that worried then call someone to do something about it. I promise you if you do you are only wasting your time.

Josh, It seems to me as though you really need to go back and hit the books a little more. You sound like someone who walked into a pet store and believed every word they said, and you keep spouting out that garbage without checking up on whether or not it is true. I have studied animals since I was 6 when I caught my first snake and fell in love with reptiles. I always take what people say about animals with a grain of salt and then go study up on them before believing everything they say. It is not cool that you are bombing everyone who is trying to give you sound advice. It does not matter if you have been in this line of business for 15 minutes or 50 years. There is always something that you can learn. I suggest you go study some more before spouting out the garbage that I have seen you posting.
I don't know you and you don't know me, is not a good argument. A lot can be told about a person just by reading on the forums and by seeing how they treat other people. You act extremely childish and are extremely rude to people, so I can assume that you are that way in person and I would never do business with someone who portrays themselves that way.

 

[Suncoast Herpetological]

Josh

You are now simply making random ridiculous statements and stating you know them to be true. The majority of your last ten posts is nonsensical drivel. No breeder would back you because you are simply and plainly completely wrong on virtually everything you have said. If Kelli is not now regretting being the only one to semi defend you here I am sure she will be after the last few pages.

You have proven yourself to be uninformed, uneducated and incompetent on the subject of colubrids. Based on your statement that you have spoken to a number of "big names" who have told you the nonsense you are spouting and yet refuse to offer a single name, I guess you have proven that you are untruthful as well.

Incidentally, over the last 18 years I have successfully produced in excess of 25,000 cornsnakes and over 35,000 colubrids in total. I also manage and maintain a collection north of 500 animals. So yes, I am one of the large breeders you are referring to and yes...I do speak from actual experience.

You sir, have no idea what you are talking about

In addition to maligning an experienced breeder in this thread without a shred of evidence to back it up, you have provided a pile of proof that the method in which you have kept the animals in question could very likely be the reason they did not thrive.


Stick a fork in this thread...it's done

 

[Southern Wolf]

No it is not creepy. I picked you out cause of our problems in the past. You dont know when to stop. You just keep on with your bullying. Yes it is possible to press charges on you over this. Even though it is a public form I have asked you to leave me be over and over and over again.

I really dont care if it makes me look foolish. I think you look like you just can not stop pushing someone around. I will not be pushed around anymore by you. I want nothing more to do with you.

So this is the last time I will ask you before I take this to the proper authorities. Please I am on my knees beginning you please. I am at your mercy. You won. You are the better person. Now please please do not ever contact me or post on my threads that I start again. If by chance we are both posting on the same thread that is not started by either one of us we will have nothing to say to each other. Please please please if you are any kind of decent human being leave me alone please.

I do not know how much more sensor I can be about wanting to have nothing more to do with you.

Josh... there is this nifty little function in your user control panel. Its called ignore. you should try it cause she has every right to post on any threads. the only time she cant post in a thread is if she gets an involuntary vacation.

 

[starsevol]

Josh

You are now simply making random ridiculous statements and stating you know them to be true. The majority of your last ten posts is nonsensical drivel. No breeder would back you because you are simply and plainly completely wrong on virtually everything you have said. If Kelli is not now regretting being the only one to semi defend you here I am sure she will be after the last few pages.

You have proven yourself to be uninformed, uneducated and incompetent on the subject of colubrids. Based on your statement that you have spoken to a number of "big names" who have told you the nonsense you are spouting and yet refuse to offer a single name, I guess you have proven that you are untruthful as well.

Incidentally, over the last 18 years I have successfully produced in excess of 25,000 cornsnakes and over 35,000 colubrids in total. I also manage and maintain a collection north of 500 animals. So yes, I am one of the large breeders you are referring to and yes...I do speak from actual experience.

You sir, have no idea what you are talking about

In addition to maligning an experienced breeder in this thread without a shred of evidence to back it up, you have provided a pile of proof that the method in which you have kept the animals in question could very likely be the reason they did not thrive.


Stick a fork in this thread...it's done

What this tells me is that a "sum buddy" agrees with this "no buddy".
Thank you!

 

[hupababy_83]

Thanks for the bad karma

Wow lol I think aunt Flo is in town!

You you can back off you know nothing of me or my love or care or anything of my animals. Is it wrong of me to dene my snakes a vet visit maybe. Depending on what is wrong. If it is something simple that I can not treat then no I should take them to the vet cause they will get better. But if it is something untreatable then no I should not have to take it to the vet unless I am going to pay him/her to put it down. I can do that myself as I have stated that I did. The other 3 that died one was in transit not my fault but was taken care of. The other 2 just up and died. One after 2 feedings and a regurg the other after almost 2 months with no real signs of illness besides it being really really small. As it was when I received it. As the one that it was replaced for was very very small and very very dead. Not my fault. In the future do I plan to take some animals to the vet sure if it is necessary, needed and will help.

Who are you to judge whether I should own a living thing or not. Tell you what my address is on a few of those documents why dont you call the local authorities and have them pay me a visit for animal neglect. When those said people get here they will find nothing wrong with my husbandry, care, or animals. Come on I am not scared. If you are that worried then call someone to do something about it. I promise you if you do you are only wasting your time.

 

[starsevol]

You you can back off you know nothing of me or my love or care or anything of my animals. Is it wrong of me to dene my snakes a vet visit maybe. Depending on what is wrong. If it is something simple that I can not treat then no I should take them to the vet cause they will get better. But if it is something untreatable then no I should not have to take it to the vet unless I am going to pay him/her to put it down. I can do that myself as I have stated that I did. The other 3 that died one was in transit not my fault but was taken care of. The other 2 just up and died. One after 2 feedings and a regurg the other after almost 2 months with no real signs of illness besides it being really really small. As it was when I received it. As the one that it was replaced for was very very small and very very dead. Not my fault. In the future do I plan to take some animals to the vet sure if it is necessary, needed and will help.

Who are you to judge whether I should own a living thing or not. Tell you what my address is on a few of those documents why dont you call the local authorities and have them pay me a visit for animal neglect. When those said people get here they will find nothing wrong with my husbandry, care, or animals. Come on I am not scared. If you are that worried then call someone to do something about it. I promise you if you do you are only wasting your time.

And I just have to ask, what veternary school did you graduate from? How do you know what is treatable and what is not unless you are a vet? Just sayin'.....

 

[Em Wright]

It does not matter if you have been in this line of business for 15 minutes or 50 years. There is always something that you can learn.

Exactly. I dunno if Josh can see my posts anymore, but if he can see this.....

I may only have 2 years or so of experience owning and dealing with corn snakes, but I have spent those two years learning from the best. I own Kathy Love's book and reference it when I need to. I get advice from some of the "big names" in the Cornsnake business, and I am always willing to admit when I have done something wrong and change how I do things if it benefits my animals.

Yes, I am still learning, but even those who are a master of their fields continue to learn on a daily basis.

As for preaching, I never once preached at you. I simply stated my concerns for the animals in your... lacking care. Even a "noobie" like me can recognize negligence.

Oh and I know how to spell "Nobody" (not no buddy, seriously).

 

[lanceheads]

Josh

You are now simply making random ridiculous statements and stating you know them to be true. The majority of your last ten posts is nonsensical drivel. No breeder would back you because you are simply and plainly completely wrong on virtually everything you have said. If Kelli is not now regretting being the only one to semi defend you here I am sure she will be after the last few pages.

You have proven yourself to be uninformed, uneducated and incompetent on the subject of colubrids. Based on your statement that you have spoken to a number of "big names" who have told you the nonsense you are spouting and yet refuse to offer a single name, I guess you have proven that you are untruthful as well.

Incidentally, over the last 18 years I have successfully produced in excess of 25,000 cornsnakes and over 35,000 colubrids in total. I also manage and maintain a collection north of 500 animals. So yes, I am one of the large breeders you are referring to and yes...I do speak from actual experience.

You sir, have no idea what you are talking about

In addition to maligning an experienced breeder in this thread without a shred of evidence to back it up, you have provided a pile of proof that the method in which you have kept the animals in question could very likely be the reason they did not thrive.


Stick a fork in this thread...it's done

Randal Berry

 

[starsevol]

Oh and I know how to spell "Nobody" (not no buddy, seriously).

I know, the first time I saw that I thought he meant I have no friends!

 

[Suncoast Herpetological]

No it is not creepy. I picked you out cause of our problems in the past. You dont know when to stop. You just keep on with your bullying. Yes it is possible to press charges on you over this. Even though it is a public form I have asked you to leave me be over and over and over again.

I really dont care if it makes me look foolish. I think you look like you just can not stop pushing someone around. I will not be pushed around anymore by you. I want nothing more to do with you.

So this is the last time I will ask you before I take this to the proper authorities. Please I am on my knees beginning you please. I am at your mercy. You won. You are the better person. Now please please do not ever contact me or post on my threads that I start again. If by chance we are both posting on the same thread that is not started by either one of us we will have nothing to say to each other. Please please please if you are any kind of decent human being leave me alone please.

I do not know how much more sensor I can be about wanting to have nothing more to do with you.

Now THAT is creepy!

 

[Wolfy-hound]

Josh Hardee(using last name to make certain in case there's another Josh in the thread).

Disregarding the whole sillyness of "cornsnakes can go a couple years without food and be fine", and such...

You cannot press charges when someone is posting a public forum. You also cannot dictate who posts where on a forum you do not own. Also, you joined this forum in 2010, while Bethany Duprey joined in 2006, so technically YOU came to a public forum SHE already belonged to for a few years. You cannot say someone is stalking you when you came to a place they were already at. Sorry.

The rest of the husbandry stuff has been answered by people much more knowledgable about colubrids than I.

 

[Shiari]

Josh. I had a hatchling corn that didn't eat fade away in two months. I didn't forcefeed it because I'd had a fairly traumatic experience with that with a previous snake. At the two month mark the snake had become lethargic and lost significant weight.

Most animals, when they go without food for a particular amount of time, will actually be unable to be saved. The body just begins shutting down, and even if you feed them they will still have 'starved' to death.

There is simply NO WAY even an adult corn could go a full year or more without significant to full on catastrophic damage from starvation. My adult males who hunger strike in spring can and do lose a significant amount of weight. I think Liam lost some 45 grams (~300 gram snake) by the end of the 3rd month. That's 1/6th of his body weight and I was starting to really get worried and was about to take him to the vet when he finally took a fuzzy.

 

[Shiari]

Oh, and just a note: with the hatchling, that was the point where I euthanised it. I did not let it continue suffering once the lethargy became apparent.

 

[Em Wright]

Something else I was thinking about..... I may only have a couple years worth of experience, but my "preaching" has gone along with what several "big names" and "some buddys" have been saying. So, in spite my "little" experience at least it seems I'm on the right track...

I'm not the one making outlandish claims of Cornsnakes living for a year or more with no food, after all...

 

[SirenSanJose]

No it is not creepy. I picked you out cause of our problems in the past. You dont know when to stop. You just keep on with your bullying. Yes it is possible to press charges on you over this. Even though it is a public form I have asked you to leave me be over and over and over again.

I really dont care if it makes me look foolish. I think you look like you just can not stop pushing someone around. I will not be pushed around anymore by you. I want nothing more to do with you.

So this is the last time I will ask you before I take this to the proper authorities. Please I am on my knees beginning you please. I am at your mercy. You won. You are the better person. Now please please do not ever contact me or post on my threads that I start again. If by chance we are both posting on the same thread that is not started by either one of us we will have nothing to say to each other. Please please please if you are any kind of decent human being leave me alone please.

I do not know how much more sensor I can be about wanting to have nothing more to do with you.

I don't know either of you. I have no dog in this fight. It just frustrates the daylights out of me when people throw around baseless "I'm gonna sue/press charges!" threats with no law to back them up.

No. A case like this, conversing in a public forum is NOT something you can press charges for. Cyberstalking/cyberharassment laws generally parallel a combination of libel laws and actual stalking laws.

Federally, it's really only a prosecutable crime when it involves threats that represent an actual intent to cause physical harm to an individual.

She's not contacting you privately, she's participating in a public discussion that you also happen to be in. That's not cyberstalking or cyberharassment in ANY legal sense of the word.

(And strangely, even if she WERE sending you private messages or emails, there's a weird loophole in federal "cyber harassment" law that makes it illegal to *ANONYMOUSLY* harass someone privately--but as the person contacting you does it with their own real name, instead of just a "handle", it's legal. And everyone's names are published on Fauna, so... )

State by state laws vary, but it's very difficult to make a case across state lines, since the laws where she is and you are may vary a lot.

But generally, you have to be able--like libel--to prove actual malice and/or intent to harm. And like libel laws, the case has to involve untruth.

If she were to hypothetically have said "hey, this guy poisoned his snakes! He's an animal abuser! Never buy from him!" that would be reputation-damaging lies. Saying "I disagree with and think poorly of your husbandry practices, opinion on vets, and feeding schedule" -- there are no lies there, just opinions, which she's legally entitled to.

In fact, you're more in the wrong than she is -- you're THREATENING her with a lawsuit or pressing charges, to get your way. You're bringing up the threat of (legal) force to get your way and try to scare her into backing off. That's much closer, legally, to actual cyberbullying, than anything she's done.

 

[SirenSanJose]

Forgot to add citations:

Federal law provides a number of important tools that are available to combat cyberstalking. Under 18 U.S.C. 875(c), it is a federal crime, punishable by up to five years in prison and a fine of up to $250,000, to transmit any communication in interstate or foreign commerce containing a threat to injure the person of another. Section 875(c) applies to any communication actually transmitted in interstate or foreign commerce - thus it includes threats transmitted in interstate or foreign commerce via the telephone, e-mail, beepers, or the Internet.

Although 18 U.S.C. 875 is an important tool, it is not an all-purpose anti-cyberstalking statute. First, it applies only to communications of actual threats. Thus, it would not apply in a situation where a cyberstalker engaged in a pattern of conduct intended to harass or annoy another (absent some threat). Also, it is not clear that it would apply to situations where a person harasses or terrorizes another by posting messages on a bulletin board or in a chat room encouraging others to harass or annoy another person (as in the California case, discussed infra.).

Certain forms of cyberstalking also may be prosecuted under 47 U.S.C. 223. One provision of this statute makes it a federal crime, punishable by up to two years in prison, to use a telephone or telecommunications device to annoy, abuse, harass, or threaten any person at the called number. The statute also requires that the perpetrator not reveal his or her name. See 47 U.S.C. 223(a)(1)(C). Although this statute is broader than 18 U.S.C. 875 -- in that it covers both threats and harassment -- Section 223 applies only to direct communications between the perpetrator and the victim. Thus, it would not reach a cyberstalking situation where a person harasses or terrorizes another person by posting messages on a bulletin board or in a chat room encouraging others to harass or annoy another person. Moreover, Section 223 is only a misdemeanor, punishable by not more than two years in prison.

http://www.cyberguards.com/CyberStalking.html

 

[starsevol]

I don't know either of you. I have no dog in this fight. It just frustrates the daylights out of me when people throw around baseless "I'm gonna sue/press charges!" threats with no law to back them up.

No. A case like this, conversing in a public forum is NOT something you can press charges for. Cyberstalking/cyberharassment laws generally parallel a combination of libel laws and actual stalking laws.

Federally, it's really only a prosecutable crime when it involves threats that represent an actual intent to cause physical harm to an individual.

She's not contacting you privately, she's participating in a public discussion that you also happen to be in. That's not cyberstalking or cyberharassment in ANY legal sense of the word.

(And strangely, even if she WERE sending you private messages or emails, there's a weird loophole in federal "cyber harassment" law that makes it illegal to *ANONYMOUSLY* harass someone privately--but as the person contacting you does it with their own real name, instead of just a "handle", it's legal. And everyone's names are published on Fauna, so... )

State by state laws vary, but it's very difficult to make a case across state lines, since the laws where she is and you are may vary a lot.

But generally, you have to be able--like libel--to prove actual malice and/or intent to harm. And like libel laws, the case has to involve untruth.

If she were to hypothetically have said "hey, this guy poisoned his snakes! He's an animal abuser! Never buy from him!" that would be reputation-damaging lies. Saying "I disagree with and think poorly of your husbandry practices, opinion on vets, and feeding schedule" -- there are no lies there, just opinions, which she's legally entitled to.

In fact, you're more in the wrong than she is -- you're THREATENING her with a lawsuit or pressing charges, to get your way. You're bringing up the threat of (legal) force to get your way and try to scare her into backing off. That's much closer, legally, to actual cyberbullying, than anything she's done.

My next post has nothing to do with this boi against Doc, but I feel that it should be out there. If I am in the wrong by posting this, mods feel free to delete.

The following is a short summary of the history between Josh and myself.

A few months ago, he posted a for sale ad on cs.com. The ad was for a trio of reverse okeetees. The male was a reverse okeetee, but the females were not. They were bright amels but had no thickness of their white borders. I dared to question the ad, and was met with an "all caps" screaming pm in my pm box demanding that I not question him. According to him, he purchased them as ROS and dammit he was going to sell them as ROs regardless of what they really were!!! A few other people agreed with me, that those females were nice, but not ROs. He ended up selling them to some poor sap, as ROs. That is pretty much when I started questioning his "future professional" status.

A few weeks later he posted another ad. A pair of ghost motleys. The pictures were pretty unclear, and the snakes looked to have an almost normal dorsal pattern. No belly pictures but he said that the female "had a few checkers". Again, I questioned whether or not these were indeed motleys and got several more hysterical demanding all caps pms in my box. Finally he took some clearer pics, and I learned that sometimes motleys "can" have a few belly checkers, although it is rare. I apologized to him profusely, and we sent a few friendlier pms back and forth. I thought that issue was resolved.

At the cornsnake dinner he sat a table away. We did not talk to each other, which was fine with me. I had alot of wonderful friends with me that night, and it was one of the best nights of my whole life! I have never posted a picture of myself on cs.com and heavens knows Josh and I are not facebook friends so he had to have IDed me through the nametag I was wearing that night. Unless of course he is a stalker, but I don't think that is likely.

And that is it. That is the extent of my bullying, and the extent of his irrational overreaction.

Now, back to our regularly scheduled program!!

 

[Vinman]

Yo people take it down a thousand, I have read 3 pages of this crap and already see where this is going. I don't care who is who, Joe from snakes alive was supposed to be reputable . Now I have sold to doc but never bought anything from him. As far as I know he is a stand up guy. From what I read on the forums he a great guy. Reptileman81 I dont think I ever delt with you, but I do interact with you on the forum you seem like a great guy too. Sometimes people get overwhelmed with life and may have fed them a little less than he should . I'm sure he did not send them to you thinking they would do bad or die. I hope this can be settled with both parties satisfied if it is not too far gone by now.

Now I know when I used to have a crap load of babies I would brumate all the non feeders and a lot of the feeding ones that I had plenty of that morph. I would heat them back up when I needed them in early February or March. Some made it fine out of the feeders and a few did not make it . On the flip side some of the nonfeeders started eating. This is done by many breeders to not only have small babies in the winter but it helps with the cost and care of the young.

I don't know why your snakes did died, it would have been nice if you would have taking pic's to prove your point but you did not. It would have helped you out, your bad. If the snakes looked that bad when you got them, you should have took that up with doc right there and sent them back or made some type of agreement being they are not in A1 condition and he should give you some time frame to make good on them. The fact you bought another adult snake is your bad judgment. When you come on the BOI you got to have something to show look he done me wrong at least some emails. Without this and being a average guy on the forum and not a big name in the game or at least a old timer you opened yourself ans a target for bad replies towards yourself. It is like going to Judge Judy with nothing to show to prove your case. Now I only read 3 pages and I have to say I think some members were a little out of line with you but your replies were no better . Too say you dont care if anyone believes you is BS. You would not post here if you did not want people to believe you . Look at the crap I have gotten on this forum for what I feed my snakes. You got to keep your cool and not let them get under your skin and prove your point. Dont get caught up in the petty drama. You do know some on here just look to get under someones skin and taunt them. Other members are just passionate about other members and they can never do wrong in their eyes. I been there too.

. I hope both of you can come to some kind of solution. I wish no bad feeling to either parties nor hope that either of you think ill of me just giving my 2 cents.
Best wishes to both of you
Vincent A Ritchie ( Vinman)