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Reptster.com experience with show sponsorship not good

Just in case anyone questions it, here is a screenshot of all of our email addresses associated with that account. It is our ONLY account (I may have one around but have not used it for a LONG time and can't even remember how to log in). This is just to show that we do not have several accounts for the business, and keep everything centralized. Mainly I am posting this so Mr. Young cannot say that we sent him something from a different account...

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Well there's no question in my mind who's lying. Kelly provides everything that is asked of her within a short time of being asked. David on the other hand still (approx 24 hours later) has not provided the headers for the emails he supposedly sent.

Now David has added another level of accusations with the "multiple" paypal requests. Kelly has stated she hasn't sent any. So David just provide verifiable proof of one paypal request from Kelly, or any of the emails associated with her account.
 
Perhaps the fact that the $$$ were blacked out in some, but not all, of the emails Kelly posted leaves some lingering doubts as to whether there might be some truth to David's version. Kelly, would you mind forwarding those emails (individually, and with full headers) to somebody for confirmation.

What he's going around "whispering" in select people's ears, doesn't change my mind one bit. If what he said was true, he would have posted his evidence on the first post. He still hasn't posted his phone record showing her hounding him. Where are the "missing" e-mails?

I care not one bit that he doesn't like the BOI and has insulted the members (of which I am one). Makes me no difference what his opinion is. It has not side-railed me at all. I am reading the facts of the matter, what Kelly said happened and what David said happened and Kelly is the only, ONLY one that has posted any supporting evidence.

The fact that David is running around playing "Divide and conquer" makes me THANKFUL that he can't call me and play a "flim/flam" game with my mind. Words are nothing if not backed up with evidence and so far, all I can see (read) is him putting up is words (in select individual ears).

Personally, imo, how much she charged is no one's business; people charge different prices for what they think their services are worth and we aren't the ones to place a "value" on her services. I really don't think she's stupid enough to post that she charged him 750.00 not knowing if he kept any e-mails that stated a different amount. Frankly..I think the longer this goes on, the more chance he has to muddy the water and taint it with his "version" of what happened.

It's a simple matter to post e-nails, phone records, or Paypal requests (if sent).
 
What he's going around "whispering" in select people's ears, doesn't change my mind one bit. If what he said was true, he would have posted his evidence on the first post. He still hasn't posted his phone record showing her hounding him. Where are the "missing" e-mails?

I care not one bit that he doesn't like the BOI and has insulted the members (of which I am one). Makes me no difference what his opinion is. It has not side-railed me at all. I am reading the facts of the matter, what Kelly said happened and what David said happened and Kelly is the only, ONLY one that has posted any supporting evidence.

The fact that David is running around playing "Divide and conquer" makes me THANKFUL that he can't call me and play a "flim/flam" game with my mind. Words are nothing if not backed up with evidence and so far, all I can see (read) is him putting up is words (in select individual ears).

Personally, imo, how much she charged is no one's business; people charge different prices for what they think their services are worth and we aren't the ones to place a "value" on her services. I really don't think she's stupid enough to post that she charged him 750.00 not knowing if he kept any e-mails that stated a different amount. Frankly..I think the longer this goes on, the more chance he has to muddy the water and taint it with his "version" of what happened.

It's a simple matter to post e-nails, phone records, or Paypal requests (if sent).

Excellent post Deb!
 
I apologize if my previous post seemed to infer that I had been in contact with David - I have not (well, I spoke with him just over a month ago about a problem I was having with setting up a shipment). Quite simply, I was reading this thread before bed this morning, and I started thinking about anything that could be considered an inconsistency in Kelly's story...the only thing that came to mind was the blocked out prices, and I was surprised that nobody had suggested that possible connection to David's very different story.
 
I apologize if my previous post seemed to infer that I had been in contact with David - I have not (well, I spoke with him just over a month ago about a problem I was having with setting up a shipment). Quite simply, I was reading this thread before bed this morning, and I started thinking about anything that could be considered an inconsistency in Kelly's story...the only thing that came to mind was the blocked out prices, and I was surprised that nobody had suggested that possible connection to David's very different story.

Harald,
I did not take offense to you asking, it was a valid point.
My offer still stands to anyone who does want to see the originals though.

Kelly
 
Personally, imo, how much she charged is no one's business; people charge different prices for what they think their services are worth and we aren't the ones to place a "value" on her services.

I... agree and disagree with that statement.

How much she chose to charge when she presented her services to her customer is between the two of them, above what others consider reasonable or below it, higher than similar services or lower- the buyer can choose to accept her price, negotiate a new one more to their liking or pass on any deals.

The amount does matter when she makes a public claim that it has not been paid. Theft is theft, regardless of the amount and someone who commits to a deal and recieves their portion of it without making good on their side is perpetrating theft. When there is disagreement about the inherent amount owed though, it does matter. It'd probably matter a lot more if some amount had been paid and there was a dispute about the balance... but it matters.

Further, it begins to matter again when the issue directly relates to services contracted, services delivered and the point at which one party decided they didn't wish to go through with things. I agree with Sammy that it was within David's rights to withdraw his sponsorship... and that in doing so, David should accept the burden of costs for services which had already been rendered. And while I would not personally engage in any kind of business transaction with someone who has shown the attitude and approach to ending his business relationship that David has, I have to say that he should not be held responsible for any services which were not yet provided.

I firmly believe that there is nothing wrong with a show promoter showing some measure of a profit for their time, energy, attention and organization. How much of a profit is, again, a matter for discussion between the individuals doing business. That said, given the support he apparantly has recieved from his own staff and a distinct minority of others, I doubt anyone will be able to convince David of that fact. Given the development of an antagonistic relationship and his (quite possibly false) defense that consisted of an attack on the integrity and character of the Kordeks, it seems he doesn't value the efforts made on his behalf. The quality of service is inherently a subjective matter and far more difficult to apply a value to than tangible receipt bearing expenses.

I haven't seen any kind of itemized list of costs which have been incurred or an itemized breakdown of the costs for the specific services David had requested. I would like to. Something along the lines of:

X black and white fliers at $0.0Y each promoting Z sponsers.
X color fliers at $0.YY each promoting Z sponsers.
A banner ad slot run for X duration or number of impressions, with a specific cost associated with it. A cost that others have been charged for an identical service.
A specific reserve amount for the table space that he won't be using, along with something that had been written up before this issue became what it is, identifying the non-refundable deposit percentage.
There was some mention of radio spots- although that may not have been directly from Kelly. Again, I'd like to know how much they cost and how many supporters or vendors were mentioned.
Any other promotional materials which have a specific cost that has been incurred. Signage for the event itself, banner ads featuring David's logo as part of the show promotion on other websites, any print media advertising costs (magazines, newspapers) and so on.

Please understand that I am in no way supporting David's conduct or attitude. Looking at it impartially though, it seems to be a situation where there was ambiguity about the terms to which he was agreeing, or at least that such terms have not been presented. They may not exist, an oversight I am certain will be corrected for future events but which leave this incident a lot muddier. A sponsor for a show should have the right to back out of that sponsorship if they decide that they do not want their name or business associated with the venue for whatever reason. The promoter should have a set of terms detailing the financial resonsibilities of their sponsors and some kind of agreement about what will occur if the sponser wishes to withdraw. In this instance, if such a set of terms was not in place or did not cover this series of events, I can't really see a financial obligation beyond that of the specific costs incurred on David's behalf, divided as is appropriate to the number of sponsers the promotions covered (including the venus itself as an equal percentage).

A bit of a side note, I'm not too sure why anyone cares that David started slinging around insults. I'm a lot more concerned with how many times he (may have and at this point it seems probable that) lied, stole, welched on a debt and behaved in a manner that was unprofessional. Given the quality he is showing himself to be of, nobody should give a rat's ass what his opinion of this board or any of it's members is.
 
I... agree and disagree with that statement.

How much she chose to charge when she presented her services to her customer is between the two of them, above what others consider reasonable or below it, higher than similar services or lower- the buyer can choose to accept her price, negotiate a new one more to their liking or pass on any deals.

The amount does matter when she makes a public claim that it has not been paid. Theft is theft, regardless of the amount and someone who commits to a deal and recieves their portion of it without making good on their side is perpetrating theft. When there is disagreement about the inherent amount owed though, it does matter. It'd probably matter a lot more if some amount had been paid and there was a dispute about the balance... but it matters.

Further, it begins to matter again when the issue directly relates to services contracted, services delivered and the point at which one party decided they didn't wish to go through with things. I agree with Sammy that it was within David's rights to withdraw his sponsorship... and that in doing so, David should accept the burden of costs for services which had already been rendered. And while I would not personally engage in any kind of business transaction with someone who has shown the attitude and approach to ending his business relationship that David has, I have to say that he should not be held responsible for any services which were not yet provided.

I firmly believe that there is nothing wrong with a show promoter showing some measure of a profit for their time, energy, attention and organization. How much of a profit is, again, a matter for discussion between the individuals doing business. That said, given the support he apparantly has recieved from his own staff and a distinct minority of others, I doubt anyone will be able to convince David of that fact. Given the development of an antagonistic relationship and his (quite possibly false) defense that consisted of an attack on the integrity and character of the Kordeks, it seems he doesn't value the efforts made on his behalf. The quality of service is inherently a subjective matter and far more difficult to apply a value to than tangible receipt bearing expenses.

I haven't seen any kind of itemized list of costs which have been incurred or an itemized breakdown of the costs for the specific services David had requested. I would like to. Something along the lines of:

X black and white fliers at $0.0Y each promoting Z sponsers.
X color fliers at $0.YY each promoting Z sponsers.
A banner ad slot run for X duration or number of impressions, with a specific cost associated with it. A cost that others have been charged for an identical service.
A specific reserve amount for the table space that he won't be using, along with something that had been written up before this issue became what it is, identifying the non-refundable deposit percentage.
There was some mention of radio spots- although that may not have been directly from Kelly. Again, I'd like to know how much they cost and how many supporters or vendors were mentioned.
Any other promotional materials which have a specific cost that has been incurred. Signage for the event itself, banner ads featuring David's logo as part of the show promotion on other websites, any print media advertising costs (magazines, newspapers) and so on.

Please understand that I am in no way supporting David's conduct or attitude. Looking at it impartially though, it seems to be a situation where there was ambiguity about the terms to which he was agreeing, or at least that such terms have not been presented. They may not exist, an oversight I am certain will be corrected for future events but which leave this incident a lot muddier. A sponsor for a show should have the right to back out of that sponsorship if they decide that they do not want their name or business associated with the venue for whatever reason. The promoter should have a set of terms detailing the financial resonsibilities of their sponsors and some kind of agreement about what will occur if the sponser wishes to withdraw. In this instance, if such a set of terms was not in place or did not cover this series of events, I can't really see a financial obligation beyond that of the specific costs incurred on David's behalf, divided as is appropriate to the number of sponsers the promotions covered (including the venus itself as an equal percentage).

A bit of a side note, I'm not too sure why anyone cares that David started slinging around insults. I'm a lot more concerned with how many times he (may have and at this point it seems probable that) lied, stole, welched on a debt and behaved in a manner that was unprofessional. Given the quality he is showing himself to be of, nobody should give a rat's ass what his opinion of this board or any of it's members is.

Stated so logically like that..I can see how it would matter. iagree:
 
After talking with a couple folks I have a theory on the box weight thing. Now I never expected Reptster to not get paid for using their service but an answer may be in how that pay is made.

David sets up the shipping program to use his / Reptster account with FedEx. No prob.

Ok , here is where my theory comes in. Said shipping program is set up to charge for a set weight per box size ...

8x8x8 = 5 pounds
10x10x10 = 6 pounds
etc etc

FedEx picks up the package and scans it into the hub. Now the boxes are charged by actual weight which is less.

If a 5 pound box cost $45 to ship but a 3 pound box costs only $35 , Reptster receives the $10 difference.

If this is how Reptster gets paid then an average of $10 differences x 4,000 boxes = a nice chunk of change.

Now , this is based on the above theory being the way it actually is , I have no problem seeing Reptster being paid for the use of the service if I know , by the terms being laid out , that this is how I am charged and the balance from actual weight subtracted from original billing weight being a fee paid to Reptster. If I don't know this is how Reptster is being paid and I am assuming FedEx is kicking a small fee per package shipped , then I would be fairly ticked thinking I'm going to get a credit when in actuality I wouldn't be.

Just a theory as to why some folks are seeing the discrepancy without getting the difference credited back.

According to David's own words in the Shipping forum on July 10th, refunds would start being distributed for over-charges.

It should not be rounding on any sizes other than superiors. I will look into it. We have yet to have a box be cheaper than quote however all have been more expensive which comes out of our pocket. As of next week you will be refunded if its cheaper (yet to happen) and charged if it is more. But all at a 20% discount.

Thanks,
David

Has anyone ever received a refund? I noticed Steve (SPJ) commented in the same thread that he was overcharged on July 17th, but I don't see any follow up regarding a credit. I'm wondering how many people have had their packages rounded up, but since they were still seeing a savings on their shipping charges, didn't bother complaining and chalked it up as a "glitch in the system". How much extra money has Reptster been able to pocket because of said "glitch"???
 
How much extra money has Reptster been able to pocket because of said "glitch"???

Probably none---I'm telling you----they have cash issues.

Let's just leave them alone now and let nature take it's course.

He owes Kelly some money--by his own admission. He doesn't seem to have the money to give her---so I think we are trying to get blood from a stone.
 
Probably none---I'm telling you----they have cash issues.

Let's just leave them alone now and let nature take it's course.

He owes Kelly some money--by his own admission. He doesn't seem to have the money to give her---so I think we are trying to get blood from a stone.


I think we've all been in 'cash issues' situations, I certainly have. I think had David picked up the phone before all the flimflam and insults and just honestly told Kelly he was having those issues, we would have identified with him. but with the insults, the boasts of new customers, and trying to call third parties to solve what he should have solved himself, it is a little late for that. His integrity is now at issue.
 
According to David's own words in the Shipping forum on July 10th, refunds would start being distributed for over-charges.



Has anyone ever received a refund? I noticed Steve (SPJ) commented in the same thread that he was overcharged on July 17th, but I don't see any follow up regarding a credit. I'm wondering how many people have had their packages rounded up, but since they were still seeing a savings on their shipping charges, didn't bother complaining and chalked it up as a "glitch in the system". How much extra money has Reptster been able to pocket because of said "glitch"???

Judging from the complaints of being overcharged , I'd say David's word then means as little as they do now. I've poked around Reptster when I was a member and never seen that post. As dead as the forums are , I only scanned over topics.

I would like to see if anyone got a refund tho.
 
To all that this applies to:

Please remove any graphic or text from your signature area, avatar, or any other automatically displayed area for your profile, which shows anything derogatory or inflammatory towards another member, business, or other website. That has never been appropriate on this site, and I myself have forgotten that fact while other things on my mind took higher priority.

Please comply as soon as possible to save the mods from having to enforce this request for simple courtesy on this site.

And no, for those possibly thinking it, I have NOT been contacted by Mr. Young or anyone else concerning this issue. This is just a long standing policy that finally dawned on me without outside prompting.
 
I would like to see if anyone got a refund tho.

No refund for 2 packages shipped that Fed Ex adjusted weights down on.

I was also charge multiple times for the same shipments but that was corrected.

I shipped a package yesterday using my account. No difference from what I rated it and what Fed Ex rated the weight. No worries about double charges if I try and print the shipping label a second time (although I never need to reprint when using my account). I only needed to reprint it with Reptster because the label prints like crap or doesn't show up the first time you click it to print.

My main concern about utilizing Reptster any more is what is going to happen if I have an issue? The way he handled himself with others regarding issues doesn't give me that "warm and fuzzy feeling".

Also, the full CC info should not be visible like it is. It should be ***** like every other secure website that has CC info on it. You should not be able to go in and see the full number, expiration date, and the 3 digit number on the back of the cards. The https server doesn't ease the fear that a hacker could easily get in and have all of you financial information right there in front of them just by getting a hold of your password.
 
Personally I cannot see the value in itemizing the cost incurred for Reptster to date. It's not like David is going to pay Kelly anything and this thread has evolved beyond the OP complaint. Say it comes out to $150 and he does pay Kelly. Everything is good? Not a chance.
 
This is for Mr. Young.

I have sent you a pm on Reptster, and here on Fauna. I have seen you have answered posts at both places. However, have not replied to my private messages.

I saw where Jamie was accused of stealing reptsters free boxes, and although I know Jamie Glass is not a thief, you failed to post any proof of that also.Which I find rather irritating, and distasteful. I do not want to be accused of stealing boxes either, and don't want to be charged for boxes I will never use through your service. I contacted you back in July? Maybe August? You said if I didn't use them within 90 days to send them back.. well I am definitely not going to use them.

Just to make sure you get this. I figured I'd post it here too. Yeah, its only 2 or 3 boxes, but since they were free with certain conditions of using them only for reptster, I'd like to return them.

I would like the physical address to send them to, as well as conformation that you have received them, and that I will not be charged for them.

So if you don't mind replying to either of my private messages, or through the email address I sent, I would really appreciate it.

Kristina Rogers

If he sends you the address, let me know. I have a few boxes here he can have back. I don't want him to accuse me of stealing them like he did with Jamie.
 
Also, the full CC info should not be visible like it is. It should be ***** like every other secure website that has CC info on it. You should not be able to go in and see the full number, expiration date, and the 3 digit number on the back of the cards. The https server doesn't ease the fear that a hacker could easily get in and have all of you financial information right there in front of them just by getting a hold of your password.
Right - that's why I no longer have billing information on file there.
 
Also, the full CC info should not be visible like it is. It should be ***** like every other secure website that has CC info on it. You should not be able to go in and see the full number, expiration date, and the 3 digit number on the back of the cards. The https server doesn't ease the fear that a hacker could easily get in and have all of you financial information right there in front of them just by getting a hold of your password.

Yes that was a big red flag for me too. Anyone with admin access to the server will also have full access to you credit card numbers. Which means if any hacker gets admin access to the Reptster server they will have complete access to every credit card number of every person that has that info stored on their servers.

When I brought this to David's attention I was told that the server was extremely well guarded against any kind of attack, etc, etc. That is just plain being naive, misleading or incredibly stupid in my opinion. There is no valid reason to keep CC numbers exposed and why I removed all my financial information from their servers long ago.
 
Yes that was a big red flag for me too. Anyone with admin access to the server will also have full access to you credit card numbers. Which means if any hacker gets admin access to the Reptster server they will have complete access to every credit card number of every person that has that info stored on their servers.

When I brought this to David's attention I was told that the server was extremely well guarded against any kind of attack, etc, etc. That is just plain being naive, misleading or incredibly stupid in my opinion. There is no valid reason to keep CC numbers exposed and why I removed all my financial information from their servers long ago.

It may very well be well guarded but employees can steal info as well. I rcvd a letter from my mortgage company today (not sure when it was sent-just checked my po box) and it turns out that a former employee stole personal information and may have sold it! This is a HUGE mortgage company and if can happen to them it can happen to anyone. They are offering free credit report monitoring as a way to say sorry. At least they are being proactive.

I really hope David mans up and tries to make this right. I sent him a message on reptster that he did not answer and my account has been terminated which is fine becuase I requested that but I wish he would have responded to me first.

Kelly has provided proof after proof immediately-not days later-showing what happened and David can not even provide 1 item-well maybe he will after he has time to make the proof.

Catherine
 
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