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Ryan Trude, [email protected] (Great Guy)

I know I am supposed to shut up, but I have to post on this.Of course he isn't sure the babies are het. Thus the 50% (that means 50% chance they are,50% chance they aren't).
They came from a documented 100% het male, bred to a female that was sold to him as a het without paperwork. Had she proven out, he would have gotten albinos in the clutch, and those normals he was selling could be sold as 66% hets. Since she did not prove out(and she still may prove out in a future clutch) the most he can say is that they are 50%.
Am I missing the quote where he says he is unsure of the male's genetics?
 
DaveyFig said:
I know I am supposed to shut up, but I have to post on this.Of course he isn't sure the babies are het. Thus the 50% (that means 50% chance they are,50% chance they aren't).
They came from a documented 100% het male, bred to a female that was sold to him as a het without paperwork. Had she proven out, he would have gotten albinos in the clutch, and those normals he was selling could be sold as 66% hets. Since she did not prove out(and she still may prove out in a future clutch) the most he can say is that they are 50%.
Am I missing the quote where he says he is unsure of the male's genetics?
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No, that's what he explained.

Now if he would only be so kind as to come back and explain the rest, that would be terrific.
 
DAND said:
Chip,

Can provide us with the other tracking numbers? Or a screen shot of the pay-pal transactions?





From the above quotes, we are looking for two (2) tracking numbers from Ryan to Chip and one (1) from Chip to Ryan.
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The only tracking number I have is : 7038 3096 5016
That is the first three, The second three, Ryan already gave you, and I don't have the # from the five males that were shipped back to him.
As far as a screen shot of the paypal transactions, No way. That is confidential material that you are asking me to post. Even if I knew how to post a screen shot, the answer is simply No.
 
All of that was from an AHA post from today, including this right?

It all doesn't add up Ryan. First they're sold, then they're not sold and turn out to be males and according to your posts your not even sure if they are het albino anyway. It does appear shady and what a scam artist would do.
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Ryan explained that 3 were sold, then the other 3 were taken off the market and shipped to that buyer. 5 were shipped back as males, and reposted. He IS sure that the male is 100%, he knows that the babies are 50% het at worst, but can be sold as 50% het at best. What is left unanswered in that post?Everything in that post has been answered.We have proof of shipping one way, and now we are just waiting to see if more proof is offered right?
 
OK, now we have two tracking number of shipments from Ryan to Chip. While I am sure everyone wants to see paypal statements saying Ryan paid Chip back, and a tracking number saying Chip sent snakes back to Ryan, are they necessary? Ryan has the balls back, or they couldn't have gone up for sale again right? Also, if Ryan has the balls back, and is selling them again, and Chip hasn't received a refund, why would he still be here singing Ryan's praises?
 
DaveyFig said:
OK, now we have two tracking number of shipments from Ryan to Chip. While I am sure everyone wants to see paypal statements saying Ryan paid Chip back, and a tracking number saying Chip sent snakes back to Ryan, are they necessary? Ryan has the balls back, or they couldn't have gone up for sale again right? Also, if Ryan has the balls back, and is selling them again, and Chip hasn't received a refund, why would he still be here singing Ryan's praises?
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Because, since it seems to be so hard for all three tracking numbers to be provided by these two. Also, the excuses for not posting the pay-pal history, which we all know DOES NOT show any confidential information. There seems to be things being omitted and dodged which produces doubt.
 
DAND said:
Because, since it seems to be so hard for all three tracking numbers to be provided by these two. Also, the excuses for not posting the pay-pal history, which we all know DOES NOT show any confidential information. There seems to be things being omitted and dodged which produces doubt.
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David

I have followed this one from the beginning and I am, most assuredly, not a fan of Mr. Trude's but I fail to see the significance of the PayPal Statements. The only reason that I can see that they might be important would be if there is some doubt as to whether or not Chip and Ryan might be the same person. Given the amount of correspondance, I find that to be very unlikely.

Can you please clarify your reasons for the request?
 
DAND said:
Because, since it seems to be so hard for all three tracking numbers to be provided by these two. Also, the excuses for not posting the pay-pal history, which we all know DOES NOT show any confidential information. There seems to be things being omitted and dodged which produces doubt.
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Doubt as much as your little heart desires, I am still not posting the paypal statements. How much I paid and how much I was reimbursed is between Ryan and me, and is simply none of your business. I have answered just about every request made on this happy little forum, I am going no further. So keep doubting, I've nothing left to prove and nothing to gain by proving it.
 
Good for you Chip.....And Ryan keep plugging away and just watch the hot headed stuff The way I see it is if these people aren't buying from you, their's is only an opinion and I'm sure you know what they say about opinions right??? Stay cool
 
Here we go again...

There was another thread that started like this not too long ago...a good statement (or inquiry) about Ryan. I made a post to that one, stating that I thought Ryan was turning it around. Within a day, of course, Ryan had been baited and taken the bait, and was spouting off like some vile volcano. His mouth (or keyboard, I guess) is his worst enemy.

I've only had one interaction with Ryan about animals. He had a lab burm for sale. I inquired, he didn't have pics, and I backed out. In his first "bad guy" thread, I recounted that exchange, Ryan came on and called me a bitch or something similar, and I wrote him off.

Not exactly a warm and fuzzy feeling for him at that point. However, I'm going to say it again: He's going in the right direction. His increasing maturity is coming through. His desire to do it right is showing.

His temper is going to be a problem for him, absolutely.

His arrest is irrelevant, although the points brought up about whether his shipments are under scrutiny could be valid. I'm guessing that as long as what Ryan is shipping you is not illegal, it will have no repercussions for the buyer at all. I'm pretty certain he's not going to throw in a free dime bag with the purchase of any 5 ball pythons.

As of this morning, with all I know about Ryan, I would consider buying from him. Now, I'm nobody special, I'm not a big name, I'm not influential in the hobby. What I am is extremely cautious about whom I purchase from. I won't support people in this industry, not for a great animal, not for a great price, not for any reason.

Conclusion: Ryan, if I have gotten to the point that I'm willing to do business with you, then other people have too. Keep going, keep getting better, keep working on your mouth. Slow, steady progress, and it will pay off for you.
 
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I won't support people in this industry, not for a great animal, not for a great price, not for any reason.
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That should say "I won't support shady, unethical people in this industry, not for a great animal, not for a great price, not for any reason."
 
reptiguy1030 said:
Doubt as much as your little heart desires, I am still not posting the paypal statements. How much I paid and how much I was reimbursed is between Ryan and me, and is simply none of your business. I have answered just about every request made on this happy little forum, I am going no further. So keep doubting, I've nothing left to prove and nothing to gain by proving it.
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You've proven nothing. Strange that you can't provide the tracking number for the package you returned to Ryan. That's fine. The doubt being left doesn't help Ryan or yourself. You could crop off the last column where the amount is, but I'm sure there will be some sort of excuse as to why neither of you can do that either.
 
DAND said:
You've proven nothing. Strange that you can't provide the tracking number for the package you returned to Ryan. That's fine. The doubt being left doesn't help Ryan or yourself. You could crop off the last column where the amount is, but I'm sure there will be some sort of excuse as to why neither of you can do that either.
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For the last time, YOU WILL NEVER SEE THE PAYPAL STATEMENTS. It is none of your business.
 
Well folks, there you have it. Is he just p!$$@d off or is there something to hide (or maybe a little of both)? You be the judge. I will say this to Reptile guy, you had something to gain, and that was your credibility with the many people reading this thread. However, if the truth has been told, there is nothing to hide and nothing to loose.
 
"Chip Blow it off you say you had a good deal with Ryan. so be it take his cue and stop posting."

Good advice. However, quite ironic...
 
What did he have to gain ?? He did a deal with Ryan said it was good....He showed all he was going to ...Now he needs to show more to feed the hungry ??? And if I'm seeing this right Every good deal with Ryan is going to be put under a microscope???? All because Ryan has a bad temper :)
 
All aboard for the irony express!

"What did he have to gain ??"

As I already mentioned, his credibility (with at least some of the viewers here)

"He did a deal with Ryan said it was good....He showed all he was going to ...Now he needs to show more to feed the hungry ???"

Apparently yes, Wouldn't be the first time there was something fishy going on with one of Ryan's good guy posts. I see your point, and agree that this stuff can seem to go way too far for way too long at times, but sometimes others that need more info see something in the deal that I may be missing, and as you well know now it can take some time to get to the bottom of things. How long did you hold out before you cracked?

"And if I'm seeing this right Every good deal with Ryan is going to be put under a microscope????"

Unfortunately, yes I think with Ryan's past many here will look at his good deals with some skepticism. Especially with 3 good guy posts in such a short amount of time. That tends to lead one to believe that the posters have been coached to come here, and that is not very sincere...

"All because Ryan has a bad temper."

A little more than a bad temper, wouldn't you say...
 
"You'll Never Know How Ironic it is"

What in the heck is that supposed to mean. Is there something you are not telling us? Lay it on us.
 
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