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Bad Guy SCAMMER!!! Jay Mcnight / Jason Ciconne/ Franklin Chams Chams/SCAMMER

It is perfectly OK to ask Craig about photos and emails and he understands that..as he said, there is only one truth. It is not OK to turn this into a drama fest and involve long ago threads.

I am hoping that Julia will answer the question about the credit card.
I didn't, they did. I may have brought up why they keep doing this every time they see me comment but drama and involving other threads was never my intention, in fact Craig took my thread and made it look completely bad on me when I was only asking for help and things got way out of hand in there too

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I didn't, they did. I may have brought up why they keep doing this every time they see me comment but drama and involving other threads was never my intention, in fact Craig took my thread and made it look completely bad on me when I was only asking for help and things got way out of hand in there too

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And there's your motive boys!
 
Not sure what kind of insult you're inferring with that "consider the source" crap. I have done nothing wrong on this board. Ever. Unless voicing my opinion and how it looks from my end which everyone has the right to do, is wrong. Stop the personal attacks. Everyone. Not sure why I'm the subject of 3 or 4 people one being the guy I caught in a lie, 2 I've made opinions about their behavior in one thread and they keep dragging it into every single thread the see me on, and another Ive never even spoken to before. Knock it off.

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Let's get something straight. I came here to address The OP and the accused. YOU drug the personal garbage regarding another thread and your melodramatic little "woe is me" bs here. Get focussed. Your statement that "they keep dragging it into every single thread they see me on" is a flat out LIE. I am not involved in every thread you are. Your reputation here precedes itself and you've dug your own hole with no help from me or anyone else. Practice what you preach. Meaning knock it off. Stop derailing this thread every time you find yourself on the wrong side of the fence.
 
I have to agree about this too. Elexis, you come across in your many posts as a smug naysayer. You continually calling Craig a liar about these photos does not negate that he has seemingly been scammed. It's all smoke and mirrors, and does not in anyway explain how the buyer keeping both the animals AND the money is not a textbook theft!


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I have to agree about this too. Elexis, you come across in your many posts as a smug naysayer. You continually calling Craig a liar about these photos does not negate that he has seemingly been scammed. It's all smoke and mirrors, and does not in anyway explain how the buyer keeping both the animals AND the money is not a textbook theft!


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I thought that maybe she was just dropped on her head and kicked down the stairs as a child. Seems it's far worse than that, Craig turned a whole thread around and made her look bad!! GTFO :face_palm_02:
 
I really don't care what I come off as. If you people are willing to over look the lies he's told that's wrong. If the buyer is actually really scamming Craig, that still doesn't excuse him lying either. There isn't sufficient proof to say either way. I would love for the real scammer to be exposed, abd if it's the buyer it's the buyer. I haven't even been defending them, only used the texts in the video presented before Craig bothered to post the texts to refute a few things Craig said. Apparently I'm the big bad wolf because I'm not jumping on the craig is a great guy band wagon

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I have to agree about this too. Elexis, you come across in your many posts as a smug naysayer. You continually calling Craig a liar about these photos does not negate that he has seemingly been scammed. It's all smoke and mirrors, and does not in anyway explain how the buyer keeping both the animals AND the money is not a textbook theft!


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Nicely put.
 
I have to agree about this too. Elexis, you come across in your many posts as a smug naysayer. You continually calling Craig a liar about these photos does not negate that he has seemingly been scammed. It's all smoke and mirrors, and does not in anyway explain how the buyer keeping both the animals AND the money is not a textbook theft!


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:exactly: WELL SAID!

Lynn Peterson
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That video is a joke. Here's what I got out of it..."hey people, now watch this part that proves Craig is a scammer! Oh nevermind, that was part of the phone conversation that I can't prove. Oh, and he lied anout me threatening to send costruction workers to his house and I can prove...oh wait, that was on the phone as well..."
 
The only thing the first video has that this thread doesn't is pictures of the animals, but they are useless for pattern-matching due to the video quality. I can't tell if they are the same ones in the email from Craig or in the prior ads that he posted, or not. The stills are useless due to the text on them, you can barely see the picture.

Also I don't understand why they wouldn't have sent those pictures to Craig back in early July right after they received them, as he requested.
 
Knock it off guys … this is not about Elexis, Chris or Lynn … I am tired of seeing y'all bicker it out in every freaking thread. I will start reporting off topic comments. There is absolutely no need to respond to what I've said.

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Craig, can you post the pictures of the animals you sent to Jay in an email?

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I will say that I do not believe there was any other money sent for more chams. I really haven't even seen proof of MBD either.
 
That video is a joke. Here's what I got out of it..."hey people, now watch this part that proves Craig is a scammer! Oh nevermind, that was part of the phone conversation that I can't prove. Oh, and he lied anout me threatening to send costruction workers to his house and I can prove...oh wait, that was on the phone as well..."

BAM!!! Also why is there zero mention of the $1150 so called deal on text. He texts and say got um there cool basically. Then texts me several hours later about some MBD crap. WHAT ABOUT THOSE 8 ambilobis he's now talking about. Did he just forget to mention that part when he received them????
It's funny on the phone he wil say all kinds of crap but on text he's very picky with his wording.
This is a long shot but is anyone close enough to him and know he has family in the construction business in VA. If someone knows that little fact that will prove I'm telling the truth about the construction workers. If he really does HOW ELSE WOULD I HAVE THAT INFO????
 
Knock it off guys … this is not about Elexis, Chris or Lynn … I am tired of seeing y'all bicker it out in every freaking thread. I will start reporting off topic comments. There is absolutely no need to respond to what I've said.

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Craig, can you post the pictures of the animals you sent to Jay in an email?

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I will say that I do not believe there was any other money sent for more chams. I really haven't even seen proof of MBD either.

See post #303. And please define "every freaking thread". I do not follow her activities here and don't know how many threads she is involved in. Perhaps you could post some stats to support your claim. Thanks in advance.
 
If you have time, check out some of Jay's other videos. He is very opinionated, and does not seem to have the ability of seeing other's points of view.
 
GOT UM!!!! I freakin got um. Just called him and he answered. Well thanks to a fauna member i put another tool on my belt. Phone call recorder. And between VA and New Jersey it was 100% legal. Only one party has to know about the recording device.
I have on recording me asking him about those 8 ambilobis. His response was "Craig I don't know what your talking about" I asked it several time and got the same answer every time.

Now next question is to you guys. How can I download this and save it on something.
It's the 2 minute something call. Conversation wasn't that long but you have to call a certain assigned number first then call Jay then merge the calls.
I tested it on my wife's phone just a couple mins prior.
 

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The only thing the first video has that this thread doesn't is pictures of the animals, but they are useless for pattern-matching due to the video quality. I can't tell if they are the same ones in the email from Craig or in the prior ads that he posted, or not. The stills are useless due to the text on them, you can barely see the picture.

He only showed pics of, allegedly, two chams, in the video, but you are correct in that they are basically useless for an individual cham's identification.

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Got a couple new texts to share. I've learned my lesson about leaving out anything so here go!!
 

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He only showed pics of, allegedly, two chams, in the video, but you are correct in that they are basically useless for an individual cham's identification.

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I havnt seen it and I refuse too because I'm not going to watch a video that's just full of lies. How come he can not produce one shred of proof to his claims. OHHH I know it's because how to you prove a lie is the truth??? I think he's working on that right now. Lol.

So in the video he only complains about 2 Chams???? What about the other 6???

Jay do us all a favor and take a video with all 8 Chams. (4 tamataves and 4 ambilobis). Show everyone how there all screwed up.
You did say you still had them all.
Then after you do it go log onto your new fauna account (the Julia Coccone profile) and post the videos.
Thanks!!!
 
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