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Spitting Cobra shipped UPS out of S.C., who was that shipping hots UPS out of S.C. a

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Package turns out to hold deadly spitting cobra
By JULISSA McKINNON
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Last Updated: May 7, 2004, 06:59:05 AM PDT

MANTECA -- A black, venom-spitting cobra is one package Angela Cuellar refused to handle. One minute the United Parcel Service storekeeper was lending a customer a box-cutter.
The next, Cuellar was staring at a viper lashing against the plastic cage that contained it.

The snake that emerged in her store April 30 was a "black-necked spitting cobra," a venomous species native to the dry grasslands of Africa. The viper spits a paralyzing venom to stun its prey -- a poison that can cause blindness and be life-threatening to humans, according to information on several cobra Web sites.

The snake that visited the UPS store was originally sent to zoology buff Kevin Peters of Manteca from a snake vendor in South Carolina. The serpent was tightly packed into a 3-inch-high, 8-inch-square plastic container that was dripping with venom, Cuellar said.

Peters was almost as stunned as Cuellar to find one of the world's most deadly snakes inside the box. Peters had ordered two nonvenomous pythons online, not a cobra, according to Manteca police.

"When I saw it I got freaked out. I wanted to jump into the rafters. It gave me the chills," Cuellar said. "I've seen snakes dead and stuffed, but when you see one moving all over the place and spitting, that's where I have to draw the line."

Five police cars, three ambulances and two animal control trucks rushed to the UPS store to extract the serpent from the busy shopping plaza on South Main Street.

Manteca's Animal Control stored the viper in a cardboard box for about two hours before the Department of Fish and Game picked it up, said animal control officer Cindy Schick.

Peters was given the option of donating the snake to a zoo, giving it up for research or having it destroyed. He chose the latter, according to Fish and Game Capt. Dennis DeAnda.

The snake's body is being held for evidence.

Venomous snakes are one of thousands of exotic species outlawed in California.

The shipment of the cobra also violated the federal Lacey Act that forbids the import, export, transport, sale, or receipt of any illegally acquired wildlife, according to Manteca police. The misdemeanor is punishable with up to one year in prison and $5,000 in fines, he said.

DeAnda declined to disclose the sender's name because he said the incident is still under investigation.

Meanwhile, Cuellar said she's still having nightmares about snakes, reminiscent of the horror flick "Anaconda."

"Every time someone walks in with a package, let me tell you something, I'm watching," Cuellar said.

Tara Gonzales, the DHL-Airborne Express courier who delivered the package, said she dropped off the box without ever suspecting a live animal lurked within -- a violation of Airborne Express rules, she said.

It wasn't until stopping at the UPS store to load the afternoon mail that Gonzales learned from Cuellar that she had delivered a viper.

"The weird thing is I didn't even know what I had delivered. It's kind of scary," Gonzales said, pausing a moment before running to her mail truck. "I'm more cautious. I pay more attention to what I'm putting in my van now."
http://www.modbee.com/local/story/8538073p-9386579c.html

Now if I rember right the idiot who was shipping the Mangroves to Tom Makkena here in IL was located in S.C. I could be wrong but who ever he was the first thing that came to mind.


I know a bunch of you guys here in this forum are working on getting Fedex to allow snakes shipments and what not. Crap like this going on and it will all be for nothing. Crap like this and none of us are going to have a hobby soon.
 
Like you, Jason, I am NOT saying it is him. Just to refresh your memory as I wonder what he is up to all the time since he hit fame here on the BOI, his name is Bruce Eisenmann. He is is York, South Carolina.
Boy and to think that I like to bet!
 
Ya IM just thiking it was him because someone posted one of his prce list and Im prety sure it had spitters on there. Ill have to make a call tomorrow and see if theyll release who shipped the package. Whom ever it was I am sure UPS wont be accepting anything from them anymore Ill have to notify Fedex and Airborne. There has to be something like that we all can do because I am just getting tired of this bullsh!t. I have no problem with people owning hots, my problem is the idiots who put other peoples lives in danger with them. Shipping a hot Spitter UPS is as close to it as you can come.

Does anyone know of or maybe have any ideas to be able to stop these idiots from shipping like that. Does UPS and those types of shippers keep a data base of people who violate the law so they know whom not to accept packages from???? If they do it would be simple enough to turn these guys in then there only option would be to ship via airline and I know they could get someone else to ship it for them but atleast it would make it diffucult for them. There has to be some way.
 
It was not UPS that delivered the package. It was DHL/AIRBORNE that delivered it to a UPS store. BUt either way this person needs to get punished to the fullest extent of the law.

Tara Gonzales, the DHL-Airborne Express courier who delivered the package, said she dropped off the box without ever suspecting a live animal lurked within -- a violation of Airborne Express rules, she said.
 
I would also say...

That the scum who recieved the package should also pay the piper.Kevin Peters had to know the spitter was in there.He has tried to get me to ship him cobras fed ex a couple of times.He is playing innocent,but I think different.I think his local law enforcement does too.See the thread on Kevin I started a couple days ago under"Kevin Peters" if you already havent.

Trey Small
 
Brian Oakley said:
Like you, Jason, I am NOT saying it is him. Just to refresh your memory as I wonder what he is up to all the time since he hit fame here on the BOI, his name is Bruce Eisenmann. He is is York, South Carolina.
Boy and to think that I like to bet!

Wounder if Harry sent it ;).
 
The person who shipped to me was Noah from Carolina Reptile Exchange. But I did get take by this Kevin peters guy for a Albino Southern pine that never ever got shipped. And there is a desk at FEDEX to report Illegal shipments if I can find the number I will post it since I do have a account with them that I do not want to lose!! And I talked to my sister-in-law and she is getting me a number for a legal department for UPS since she is realitively high up with UPS she was very pissed about this herself.

Tom McKenna
 
Bruce Eisenmann

From what I understand Bruce Eisenmann's store has been shut down. Rumor has it he was arrested for Insurance fraud, and come to find out, like its a suprise to us, he had other charges in 4 states on animal abuse. I live about 20 min from the old store front, but haven't been by there to find out if its true or not.
 
Ya'll are so funny sometimes. There are so many dealers in SC. Molt, Snipes, Eisenmann,.....and many many others. How are you guys going to sit here and start bashing someone that you have no proof what so ever that he did this?! I mean, maybe he did do it,...I dont know either way. I just find it really funny that you guys start naming him. Just for the record, thats slander. Some of you guys need to chill out.
 
Just for the record mike it's libel.

Seems some of you southern boys, along with shipping properly, need ta larn yar wordses more betterer.

Wes Pollock
 
sorry about the spelling, at work, in a hurry,...funny thing is though, I'm from the north! Shot that idea of yours all to hell didnt it?!
 
bigshow said:
sorry about the spelling, at work, in a hurry,...funny thing is though, I'm from the north! Shot that idea of yours all to hell didnt it?!

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Actually, as you have proved for me MOST adequately, ignorance is rampant worldwide.

I do believe, and feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, that Charlotte is in THE SOUTH. At least it was last time I looked at a map.

If you wish to claim the north as where you are "from" then perhaps you should change your location designation.

Of course, it is also possible that you have completely missed the attempt at humor which I have attempted, admittedly at your expense but, which was funny none the less.

Slander is SPOKEN.

Libel is WRITTEN.

Have you read all the threads that pertain to bruce/harry/noah/hce and the myriad other names this clown has used? If you have do you TRULY not see how some of us would consider him the PRIME suspect for this type of stupidity?

Really?

Wes Pollock
 
Mardi Snipes would *never* be a party to illegal and unsafe shipping. I wouldn't even bother speculating about that.
 
Hey, Pollock, where you live,...and where you are from, are two different subjects. So before you start calling me names, think before you speak. Jerk. As far as Snipes,...I agree, I do not think that he would do something like this. I have done business with him and think he's a good guy. I was just naming some names as an example. And yes, Pollock,...I have read everything about Bruce on here. BIG DEAL! Again,....HOW DO YOU KNOW IT WAS HIM!? And if he is guilty of everything that ya'll accuse him of,..why isnt he in jail? Ah, maybe because ya'll are full of it! I get on Fauna pretty much every day and read all the stuff on here. And there is always someone that you people gang up on. Its pathetic that that is all you have to do. Get a life!
 
wilomn said:
Of course, it is also possible that you have completely missed the attempt at humor which I have attempted, admittedly at your expense but, which was funny none the less

Wes Pollock

Pollock to mikey here, come in mikey.......


I can't find anyplace where I called you any names. If you are ASSuming that I did so then you MUST think some of the words I've used FIT you quite well.

So long as you're the one doing the thinking I reckon it's ok with me. Like they say, If the shoe fits.......

You also seem to have confused me with Ms. Tyrr. Rumor has it that not only is she female, and I'm a guy in case you haven't figured that out but, she is also supposed to be quite a lot better looking than am I. I've never mentioned Snipes at all. Got your back hair up there, mikey?

Thank you the life advice. Coming from someone who says, "I get on Fauna pretty much every day and read all the stuff on here." and that is a DIRECT quote from you, well, heck I'll just run right out and get me one of them there lifeseseses.

Must stop laughing, stomache cramping, must stop.

AHAHAHahahahahahahaHAHAHAhahAHAHahAhaHAHahAHAHahaha

I REALLY don't think any group here is GANGING up on bruce/harry/noah, or whoever else he is. He seems to have brought all of the bad thoughts and doings associated with him onto himself all by himself. Does it bother you that some of us noticed his BAD ways? He's a bad guy. BAD. Plain and simple. Bad.

If bruce/harry/noah is not at this time in jail, I cannot see his incarseration being far off. Or should I say his REPEAT performance at the Iron Bar Hotel?

"Ah, maybe because ya'll are full of it!" Yet another stunningly BRILLIANT quote from you mikey.

What some of us are FULL of is information about BAD guys and DISGUST that some of them are doing business AT ALL.

Wonder what you're full of. Nope, no I don't, not really. I've got a good imagination.

Have a nice day,
Wes Pollock
 
First off, I was addressing both of the posts smart guy. You seem to think that you're being funny. It's not funny. You guys are messing with someone's life/business. IF HE HAS DONE SOMETHING TO YOU DIRECT,...then I would understand the anger. Otherwise, you are a perfect example of what I spoke of earlier. Personally, I think you're a jerk. You want to run your big mouth on here like some sort of tough guy. Got news for ya, YOU ARE NOTHING. Nothing more than some bitter old fool on here wanting to ruin lives. You really need to get a life.
 
bigshow said:
Personally, I think you're a jerk. You want to run your big mouth on here like some sort of tough guy. Got news for ya, YOU ARE NOTHING. Nothing more than some bitter old fool on here wanting to ruin lives. You really need to get a life.

You forgot the part about me being a big fat wannbe biker living in my uncle's trailer. Got to get your facts straight, mikey.

harry/bruce/noah, most any eisenmann that has been mentioned on this board, hce, digital reptiles, hcr, man I can't even remember all the names this clown has used to rip people off, IS/ARE BAD guy(s).

Oh, and just so you know, I have never claimed to be anything other than a small time breeder.Now I reckon to some a y'all I'm a big man but, down home here, where I'm a livin' at now, I'm just a guy with a few snakes that REALLY dislikes BAD people in this business.

Thanks for caring though. It's so kind of you.

Now to get this thread back on track, which is finding out who shipped that spitter-


Has anyone who was checking into made any headway?

mikey, if you want to bash me there are a couple of threads in hell where guys a lot like you "go to town" with eachother ALL THE TIME. heh heh heh Feel free to come on down to hell and join in. Don't do any pig imitations though, never know what might happen then. That's a formal invitation from the Honorary Mayor. You're in the Big Times now boyo.

Wes Pollock
 
Bruce's actions arre everybody's business, as it reflects on the herp community as a whole.

The relevance here is that Bruce has shipped venomous snakes illegally before, so it's only natural to question if it was him this time around.

As for messing with Bruce's life/business... I'm all for disrupting the lives of scammers, criminals, and their ilk. The last time I checked, honest businesspersons don't forge documents, ship venomous snakes illegally, severely neglect their animals, pose as dead relatives, etc.
 
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