wanna see what hell is like for me :(

[Double "D" Reptiles]

Thank you everyone

I just want to say thank you to everyone...not just here in this thread but also all of the other threads on the BOI. I've not done so before, but this morning I began a database just for people I won't do business with in the future. I have been had in the past and have relied solely on memory, but no more. It seems that as this business grows the more we see of scammers...or maybe this site had just made it so much easier to ferret them out. Either way, I appreciate the enlightening posts made and to see how they work out.

So, in short, this thread has prompted me to place Redtailman on my list. Can't say that it gives me pleasure, but I do find it necessary to keep tabs on things like this and keep a database in light of all that appears here. Sorry dude, but if everyone else here was doing the same routine as I've started, then there's a lot of folks who just wrote you off.

David

 

[flboabreeder]

OK FOR THE VERY LAST TIME TO EVERYONE I NEVER LIED ABOUT ANYTHING TO ANYONE ON HERE OR ANYWERE,AND IF I DID DO SOMETHING SO WRONG THEN YES I WOULD TAKE FULL RESPONSIBILITY FOR WHAT I HAVE DONE,BUT IN THIS CASE YOU GUYS ARE JUST GOING OVER BOARD,IF IT MAKES YOU HAPPY THEN JUST BAN ME FROM THIS SITE ITS THAT EASY.,NOW DO PLEASE HAVE A GREAT DAY

What good would banning do you would probably assume another identity and start posting from your buddy in Floridas so the IP would be different:laugh:
Really if you are clueless as to what you did then maybe you should bannish yourself( and your aliases).
Oh by the way you seem good with a shovel so you might want to look into the profession.
Jesse VanHorn

 

[redtailman]

good you do that

i can offer over 50 references from people all over the usa to anyone at anytime that i dave sidorski or mike gordon are not scamers nor bad people that you are making us out to be we are very trusting people, ok we were worng for giving eachother good feedback and i have asked webslave to delete the feedback and its been done,thank you webslave and to everyone please do have a great day

 

[Dr Owens]

Lying on the BOI can dig you a deep hole...

Dave,
It was one of your "references" that you listed earlier in this topic that called my attention to your scamming in the first place (and I in turn told Ritchie and Ken about the little game you were playing). Perhaps your "references" aren't quite as solid as you might think...

btw...I know a couple of other people who you have listed as references. I'll make sure that they are aware of your predicament. Who knows...maybe they'll see past all of this and still want to recommend you. Of course, you could always ask your "references" to come on here and vouch for you...however, you might want to put away your shovel first...

 

[flboabreeder]

i can offer over 50 references from people all over the usa to anyone at anytime that i dave sidorski or mike gordon are not scamers nor bad people that you are making us out to be we are very trusting people, ok we were worng for giving eachother good feedback

Is that all over the USA for real or just on the computer??
Do you go by tatman320 on the auction site??
And to go back to the original topic of the thread what really happened to those animals??

I feel like an idiot for showing you sympathy

My sympathy was for the animals so I have to retract that statement: re·tract [ ri trákt ] (past re·tract·ed, past participle re·tract·ed, present participle re·tract·ing, 3rd person present singular re·tracts)2. transitive and intransitive verb withdraw statement: to withdraw or deny something previously said, published, or promised
She has since retracted her earlier statement.
Jesse VanHorn

 

[redtailman]

I GO BY THE NAME REDTAILMAN ON THE AUCTION SITE AS WELL

 

[redtailman]

Re: Lying on the BOI can dig you a deep hole...

Dave,
It was one of your "references" that you listed earlier in this topic that called my attention to your scamming in the first place (and I in turn told Ritchie and Ken about the little game you were playing). Perhaps your "references" aren't quite as solid as you might think...

btw...I know a couple of other people who you have listed as references. I'll make sure that they are aware of your predicament. Who knows...maybe they'll see past all of this and still want to recommend you. Of course, you could always ask your "references" to come on here and vouch for you...however, you might want to put away your shovel first...

THAT CALLED YOUR ATTENTION TO MY SCAMMING ????????

I HAVE NEVER SCAMED ANYONE AT ANYTIME FOR NOTHING

 

[Dr Owens]

Re: Re: Lying on the BOI can dig you a deep hole...

THAT CALLED YOUR ATTENTION TO MY SCAMMING ????????

I HAVE NEVER SCAMED ANYONE AT ANYTIME FOR NOTHING

So lying about who you are in order to falsely give yourself positive feedback is not scamming? Ok, perhaps you have a better term for it...what would you call deliberate deceit in order to attempt to further your business interests?

 

[flboabreeder]

THAT CALLED YOUR ATTENTION TO MY SCAMMING ????????

ok let me help you out
Quote but retouched to help you out a little:
h-o-m-e b-o-y d-o-e-s n-o-t t-h-i-n-k h-e d-i-d a-n-y-t-h-i-n-g w-r-o-n-g.
h-e s-a-y-s h-e n-e-v-e-r c-h-e-a-t-e-d o-r s-c-a-m-m-e-d a-n-y-o-n-e.

I g-u-e-s-s h-e i-s r-i-g-h-t.
m-a-k-i-n-g u-p a s-c-r-e-e-n n-a-m-e a-n-d l-e-a-v-i-n-g g-o-o-d f-e-e-d-b-a-c-k a-b-o-u-t y-o-u-r-s-e-l-f i-s n-o-t r-e-a-l-l-y c-h-e-a-t-i-n-g o-r s-c-a-m-m-i-n-g a-n-y-o-n-e.....N-O N-O-T R-E-A-L-L-Y.

B-u-t I g-u-e-s-s e-t-h-i-c-s a-n-d m-o-r-a-l-s a-r-e n-o-t i--n h-i-s v-o-c-a-b-u-l-a-r-y e-i-t-h-e-r.
I hope that clears up your confusion
Jesse VanHorn

 

[HerpVenue]

OK FOR THE VERY LAST TIME TO EVERYONE I NEVER LIED ABOUT ANYTHING TO ANYONE ON HERE OR ANYWERE,AND IF I DID DO SOMETHING SO WRONG THEN YES I WOULD TAKE FULL RESPONSIBILITY FOR WHAT I HAVE DONE,BUT IN THIS CASE YOU GUYS ARE JUST GOING OVER BOARD,IF IT MAKES YOU HAPPY THEN JUST BAN ME FROM THIS SITE ITS THAT EASY.,NOW DO PLEASE HAVE A GREAT DAY

yeah creating a screen name and giving yourself good marks is not so wrong. it is just a little wrong. ....................... Dude Wrong is Wrong.

i can offer over 50 references from people all over the usa to anyone at anytime that i dave sidorski or mike gordon are not scamers nor bad people that you are making us out to be we are very trusting people, ok we were worng for giving eachother good feedback and i have asked webslave to delete the feedback and its been done,thank you webslave and to everyone please do have a great day

You just don't get it.
If he really does exist and if you really did do business with each other.....Then the feedback is fine.

Pay attention
The bad part is the one where you faked a person named Frank (snakelover4life). And left yourself good feedbacks. Then you go on to lie about Frank's real whereabouts.

I guess you just don't get it do you?
Your 31....you should be able to understand the things I said above that are in bold

THAT CALLED YOUR ATTENTION TO MY SCAMMING ????????

I HAVE NEVER SCAMED ANYONE AT ANYTIME FOR NOTHING

That tells me that you apologized in the other thread for absolutley nothing. You do not even know what you are apologizing for.

 

[redtailman]

yeah creating a screen name and giving yourself good marks is not so wrong. it is just a little wrong. ....................... Dude Wrong is Wrong.

You just don't get it.
If he really does exist and if you really did do business with each other.....Then the feedback is fine.

Pay attention
The bad part is the one where you faked a person named Frank (snakelover4life). And left yourself good feedbacks. Then you go on to lie about Frank's real whereabouts.

I guess you just don't get it do you?
Your 31....you should be able to understand the things I said above that are in bold




That tells me that you apologized in the other thread for absolutley nothing. You do not even know what you are apologizing for.

YES WE DID APOLOGIZE AND YES WE KNOW WHAT WE DID WAS WRONG AND FORE THAT WERE SORRY SORRY SORRY SORRY SORRY

 

[redtailman]

ok let me help you out
Quote but retouched to help you out a little:
h-o-m-e b-o-y d-o-e-s n-o-t t-h-i-n-k h-e d-i-d a-n-y-t-h-i-n-g w-r-o-n-g.
h-e s-a-y-s h-e n-e-v-e-r c-h-e-a-t-e-d o-r s-c-a-m-m-e-d a-n-y-o-n-e.

I g-u-e-s-s h-e i-s r-i-g-h-t.
m-a-k-i-n-g u-p a s-c-r-e-e-n n-a-m-e a-n-d l-e-a-v-i-n-g g-o-o-d f-e-e-d-b-a-c-k a-b-o-u-t y-o-u-r-s-e-l-f i-s n-o-t r-e-a-l-l-y c-h-e-a-t-i-n-g o-r s-c-a-m-m-i-n-g a-n-y-o-n-e.....N-O N-O-T R-E-A-L-L-Y.

B-u-t I g-u-e-s-s e-t-h-i-c-s a-n-d m-o-r-a-l-s a-r-e n-o-t i--n h-i-s v-o-c-a-b-u-l-a-r-y e-i-t-h-e-r.
I hope that clears up your confusion
Jesse VanHorn

HOMEBOY ?? LOL

HAVE A GREAT DAY HOMEBOY JESSE

 

[HerpVenue]

YES WE DID APOLOGIZE AND YES WE KNOW WHAT WE DID WAS WRONG AND FORE THAT WERE SORRY SORRY SORRY SORRY SORRY

go ahead and tell me what it is your sorry for and what it is you think you did wrong.

Only when I am sure you KNOW what you did....that is when I will move on.


a little hint.
If philliesbest really does exist and if you two really did business....then that part is not wrong.


but go ahead and tell me what it is you think you did wrong

 

[HerpVenue]

Do you want to know why I am asking you to tell me if what it is you think you did wrong?



Because at 11:08 est you wrote

IM NOT A BAD GUY AT ALL,AND YES ADULTS DO MAKE MISTAKES, AND WE WERE WRONG FOR DOING THAT I WILL ADMIT IT,AND IM NOT TRYING TO COVER ANYTHING UP,ONLY BAD GUYS DO THAT,IM THE TYPE OF GUY THAT IF THERE WAS ANYTHING THAT YOU NEEDED I WOULD GIVE THE DAM SHIRT OF MY BACK FOR ANYONE TO JUST TRY AND HELP THEM OUT,AND YES WE DID SIMPLY USED BAD JUDGMENT,WE WENT ABOUT IT THE WRONG WAY AND FOR THAT IM SORRY

You apologized. that is great.


but at 11:53 you wrote.

THAT CALLED YOUR ATTENTION TO MY SCAMMING ????????

I HAVE NEVER SCAMED ANYONE AT ANYTIME FOR NOTHING

It clearly tells me you apologized for something....but you do not know what you are apologizing for.


as a matter of fact you are apologizing that you and philliesbest left each other good feedbacks. And if that is really what you are apologizing for......then sorry you still do not get it.

 

[HerpVenue]

at 12:34 est you posted this
on the other thread

I DO FULLY UNDERSTAND WEBSLAVE AND IM SURE IT DON'T MEAN THAT MUCH TO YOU BUT WE ARE SORRY FOR LEAVING THE FEEDBACK ON EACHOTHER

Now I am 100% sure you apologized for something you had no clue what you are apologizing for.


leaving feedback on each other is fine if you did business with each other.


Now tell us a little more about this frank dude.
Does he or does he not exist in REAL LIFE
what is his story?
did he really buy from you?
And if so when did he buy from you?
or did you just make it up?

 

[redtailman]

Do you want to know why I am asking you to tell me if what it is you think you did wrong?

IM APOLOGIZEING FOR LIEING ABOUT MY GOOD FEEDBACKS THAT WERE LEFT FORM I AND PHILLIESBEST,.AND ALSO IF I MISLEAD ANYONE MEMBERS HERE ON FAUNA



Because at 11:08 est you wrote

You apologized. that is great.


but at 11:53 you wrote.



It clearly tells me you apologized for something....but you do not know what you are apologizing for.


as a matter of fact you are apologizing that you and philliesbest left each other good feedbacks. And if that is really what you are apologizing for......then sorry you still do not get it.

 

[flboabreeder]

not trying to be the devil's advocate....but

[

HOMEBOY ?? LOL

sorry that was taking from the quote( I would have used bonehead or numb nuts)
As to your last apology: It seems you have no idea even as to what you are apologizing for which is what Ritchie is trying to say to you.

YES WE DID APOLOGIZE AND YES WE KNOW WHAT WE DID WAS WRONG AND FORE THAT WERE SORRY SORRY SORRY SORRY SORRY

and earlier:OK FOR THE VERY LAST TIME TO EVERYONE I NEVER LIED ABOUT ANYTHING TO ANYONE ON HERE OR ANYWERE,AND IF I DID DO SOMETHING SO WRONG THEN YES I WOULD TAKE FULL RESPONSIBILITY FOR WHAT I HAVE DONE,BUT IN THIS CASE YOU GUYS ARE JUST GOING OVER BOARD,IF IT MAKES YOU HAPPY THEN JUST BAN ME FROM THIS SITE ITS THAT EASY.,NOW DO PLEASE HAVE A GREAT DAY
so you admit it but didn't do it please tell us which side of your mouth you are speaking from(or wherever else you may be talking from)
Jesse VanHorn and what really happened to those animals??

 

[redtailman]

at 12:34 est you posted this
on the other thread




Now I am 100% sure you apologized for something you had no clue what you are apologizing for.

I APOLOGIZED FOR LIEING ABOUT FRANK AND FOR US MAKEING UP THE GOOD FEEDBACK ON EACH OTHER,AND IF I MISLEAD ANY MEMBERS HERE ON FAUNA


leaving feedback on each other is fine if you did business with each other.

AND I GUESS SINCE ME AND PHILLIES LIVE UNDER THE SAME ROOF LEAVING GOOD FEEDBACK ON EACH OTHER DON'T COUNT



ME AND PHILLIESBEST ARE BROTHER INLAWS WE DO LIVE UNDER THE SAME ROOF,AND FOR FRANK HE IS A FRIEND OF PHILLIESBESTS I REDTAILMAN HAVE SOLD 1 SNAKE TO HIM SOMETIME BACK,AND ME AND PHILLIE DO BUY/SELL/TRADE ITS OUR LITTLE HOBBY



Now tell us a little more about this frank dude.
Does he or does he not exist in REAL LIFE
what is his story?
did he really buy from you?
And if so when did he buy from you?
or did you just make it up?

 

[John Albrecht]

for clarification

Fraud - Intentional perversion of truth in order to induce another to part with something of value... . An act of deceiving or misrepresenting. One who is not what he pretends to be. ...

Hmmm, just a little wrong eh? I think the above pretty well describes you completely. Apparently, in your universe fraud is not a big deal. Do you think that this describes somebody you would like to do business with?

 

[HerpVenue]

dude you just need to quit hitting your quote button and not replying.


Now tell us a little more about frank.
does he or does he not exist?