Wendy Griffin- HORRIBLE WOMAN!

[dragonflyreptiles]

Wendy, i appreciate the apology, long wait, but it still came

i count up all the years i have owned reptiles as my experience..even though my father took care of them until i was 6 and basically knew how to feed and handle

again, thanks for the apology, i apprciate it....now lets let this thread drop back to the 15th page again...

Dan, I am truly sorry all of this happened, I would never have sent the dragon to you if I had known it was of ill health and I am sorry I was not educated enough to know and hope it did not cause any problems with your otehr reptiles.

 

[DragonCharm]

I have not lied

I doi not know how you think that dragon is even in the same class as the one I shipped out!!!!

The dragon you reference was smaller than the one I shipped out,
youy reference this:
http://leopardgeckos.forplanetearth...h18inches02.jpg

My dragon was 14" with tail nip and:

*sigh* You *did* lie, blatently. If you are turning over a new leaf admit to it, apologize and move on.

Here's some advice, buy yourself a few Dobermans and breed them.....your days selling herps seem to be over.

 

[Bringerofdoom]

well, well, well.... the little troll peaks her head out of hiding, now only in the form of trying to givebad points today for post's 15 days old and long buried....

left this in the comment box too.

"I have no idea if the dragon had hook worms, but 3 very intelligent breeders said based on my comments that was their thought since dragons often gain a small amount of weight and are active with hook worms and that shipping him most likely over stress"

WENDY, i could give a care less. THE FACT is that YOU didnt see it and that you could describe its condition on a forum and get a cause of death is really bad. Unless you had a fecal test done, THEN you could tell all what was going wrong with him. Hookworms may have had some play, but didnt you ever think it could be several things infesting the beardie?

First you go from thinking a 150 gram male dragon is healthy and happy to 2 months later diagnosing dead corpses in cities far away from you with worms...... (i'm not saying anything bad about the other people's advice, but its nothing solid without proof)

Whats really amazing is that you plead ignorance, is to blame now. I would expect this out of a 15 year old kid, but this isnt the case. There is plenty of information on the net for bearded dragons. There are also plenty of sites that cover basic reptile illnesses. ANYTIME i aquire a new specie of reptile i never dealt with, i look for that information first. I don't know about anyone else here, but I am shure I'm not alone.

You admit you owned him for several months and in that time, you never bothered to question nothing or to look up anything. You even thought he was healthy enough to brumate at 6 months old. It's sad that living gentle creatures have to pay the price of horrible ignorance. Trial and error works in cooking wendy, NOT in reptile husbandry!

Sorry everyone, i really didnt want to bring this thread back up. She doesnt want to let this subject die it seems. I hope she realizes that with her negative points, her attempts to snipe other peoples points are useless .

 

[Wilomn]

She's tried to zap me with negative feedback several times as well, a couple of times for stuff that happened long ago. She's a whack job for sure.

 

[Chris@TSE]

LOL, yeah I got one of those reputation things from her too. She hit me up a good three or four weeks after the intial issue at hand was being discussed. Pretty pathetic if you ask me........

But then again this IS Wendy we're talking about here... BIG surprise.

 

[E2MacPets]

Wendy,
Since you can't get your mind off the fact that Dan is a minor, you'll be pleased to hear from me, his mother. I stayed out of this because Dan is a very mature person and has handled you and your despicable lies very well. The people on this board have been absolutely wonderful and every post they've made in reply to your gibberish has made perfect logical sense and has proven you to be the liar you are. I was here when the dragon arrived in a snake bag and packaged horrifically in paper shaving with NO insulationa and no heat. I know that Dan wrote to you concerning the terrible conditions in which the reptile was shipped by you. He voiced his disgust to you and he told you that he would not ship out the leopard gecko until he was certain the dragon was healthy. YOU AGREED TO THIS. He wrote to you again and said he would ship it back to you on Monday, but unfortunately it died Sunday night.
And you have had the AUDACITY to accuse him of neglect and even of killing this animal. Dan has been caring for reptiles since he was 4 and he has an inate love and understanding of them. We have many many animals in our home, and we respect life to the highest degree. Dan is responsible for many reptiles, including snakes, dragons, geckos, birds, tarantulas, and in the past, iguanas.
You have lied here to cover your rump at the cost of a young man's very serious passion for reptiles. HOW DARE YOU! I am livid, Wendy and I want to speak to you by phone!!!! I am TAKING charge of this matter now and I will send you the dragon when I am damn good and ready. I am absolutely certain you only want this poor thing back so that you can start more controversy. Do you lack something in your life that compels you to come to a board and seek this drama?
You have done enough damage, Wendy....YOU killed that dragon and my son had to deal with it's death. Shame on you, you disgusting person.

EMAIL ME for my phone number at [email protected]
PS. DO NOT email me to play your stupid little games. Trust me, I WILL NOT DEAL WITH THAT.
Paula Quinn

I'm just curious... on page 46 Dan's mother stepped in and said she'd be handling this from now on...

Why is this thread still going on?

 

[Bringerofdoom]

WENDY, IF you have anything to say, EITHER PM ME OR POST IT TO YOUR THREAD. The rep system is not for Messages, IF you CANT UNDERSTAND YOUR points are negative. so you cannot give ANYONE bad rep pointsOr good points. Or do you really think you are givng me negative points and baiting me to post more threads for you to give me negative points for?

"I never said the dragon DID have worms, I said I was taing the advise of the breeders who contacted me and that they were MOST LIKELY correct"

AS i said before WENDY, Basic INFORMATION on the internet for reptile viruses could have told you that. I knew that much before i owned my first BEARDIE. Other people on THIS thread stated he had some sort of worms MONTHS before your confession. So did it take you that long for it to sink in????

WHAT really makes me mad about this whole thing, is THAT you claim you own adult beardies. BUT you cannot TELL THAT a 150 gram 8-9 month old male WAS UNHEALTHY. TO About everyone on this BOARD who owns beardies it would have been a red flag for a vet check.

BUT NO, not to you. You Label him as healthy and happy and ship him out. THEN you have the audacity To blame Someone else, who watched it die in 4 days of being responsible for its death.

What did you feel left out, because everyone else was confessing to their wrongs at the time and you thought you could too?

I have said all i ever wanted to say to this thread, but wendy keeps bringing it back up playing games. Its starting to make you look as bad as sheila and even you are sane enough to know she was whacked, right?

You Better pray that your future customers dont find the boi.

 

[Chris@TSE]

Give it up, she's an idiot. She cannot comprehend more than two words of what you just wrote...

She's probably busy starving some herps near death before shipping them to some poor individual whom she will later blame, check back later.

 

[dragonflyreptiles]

Mike,

Why don't you stop being such a cry baby, there is a little button to that you can click to say you approve or disapprove of a person's post and I did not agree with some of yours, so why cry about it?

I was not trying to take your precious points, this system was pointed out to me as a way to let someone know you agree or disagree without it being debated all over the forums like a bunch of cry babies.

So, if I offended you by disapgreeing with you, tough, thats what its there for.

And if you looked you would know that I sent my apology on 01/04 at 9:46pm

And the others followed me, Spiderballs 1-11 at 3:51pm, and Adam Quagliata 01/05 at 4:48pm

So get your facts straight before you accuse me of being a copy cat for sending an apology to Dan!

 

[Chris@TSE]

Your apology was pathetic, it was far from an apology. It was another blatent attempt at passing off MORE excuses........

Also........ disagreeing with a post and being upset that someone has exposed you for the pathetic peice of excrement that you are unfortunatley is two very different things. Besides, your reputation is so damn horrible the time spent rating peoples posts is meaningless, any contributions you make in the reputation system dont even count! LOL

 

[Bringerofdoom]

Mike,

Why don't you stop being such a cry baby, there is a little button to that you can click to say you approve or disapprove of a person's post and I did not agree with some of yours, so why cry about it?

I was not trying to take your precious points, this system was pointed out to me as a way to let someone know you agree or disagree without it being debated all over the forums like a bunch of cry babies.

So, if I offended you by disapgreeing with you, tough, thats what its there for.

First off, i'm not being a crybaby. Its acutally funny that you think the rep system works for you. (maybe you should try reading how the rep system works, Heck you have plenty of free time on your hands....) The only thing you are doing is annoying me. The moment i click my CP, i see your stupid comments THAT are already in your fauna post.

As i said before and others have said, you can not nor will ever be able to give anyone good or bad points till you get enough good points. WHICH Will never happen to you. When you think you are giving/taking points you are doing nothing, besides leaving messages next to grey squares. HENCE, why i said if you got anything to say, say it your thread or pm me.

its bad enough you trolled back to a post that happened before the rep system was even put in and tried to give me bad points for "LOL".. maybe you should have given me points 15 days ago on this thread, instead of being the troll you are to dig up this post. I tend to forget you exist, until you have to find someway to get at me still.

The beardie is long dead and buried by now, as this thread should be. So, wendy do us all a favor and get you some sun, learn about your herps (the ones currently alive...) and leave this thread alone. ok?

 

[dragonflyreptiles]

Chris,

Like I told you in private, I never said anything about any post on this thread, I disagreed with the post you made about my children, which has nothing to do with this at all.

With you being a teen parent (you just turned 26 and you have a 10 year old daughter), you should know that it is unethical to make remarks about ones family.

I still think you are a very intelligent person and wish you would use you intelligence to help newcomers instead of beat them down for 1 mistake.


Mike

Like I said I AM NOT trying to take any points from you at all, and all this crying about me disagreeing your some of your post is silly.

You are the one that brought the thread back up so you could cry in public so youcan let it die out whenever you are ready.

 

[jmkhet]

All i can say is WOW!I got to page 40 and just couldnt take it anymore.This thread should have ended long ago.The beardie died, bummer.Whos fault was it, my opinion Wendy's.As you already stated you dont breed dragons, most people would read up on the animals they intend on selling.If this was your first experience with dealing with dragons...stop your not good at it.Or try to get better with literature.As i said in my opinion its the breeder/owners whos at fault, just how it is.You may be good at breeding reptiles of other sorts, and thats great, stick with what your good at.As far as the customer is concerned, you didnt lose out on anything.Yeah your dragon died that sucks, you still have your leo.Not to mention the fact that dude your under age, it is against the law for you to purchase ANY reptile online.I also think it was wrong to say Wendy is a horrible person, she may have had bad judgement and not a whole lot of knowledge on this particular reptile.That doesnt make her horrible just ignorant as far as knowledge on this particular species, Josh McDermott

 

[Wilomn]

This thread has moved on from what a terrible reptile keeper wendy is past ALL the lies she's told, blithely skipping past the fact that she is somewhat, read as VERY, unstable, and has now denegrated to her getting mad because some of us question the fact, HA, that she is a good mother. And ol' jeffy dahmer was a great neighbor too.

She is constantly on few of us here, pms, emails, rep points, whatever she can to keep her in our forebrains. What she doesn't seem to realize, and this is where the certainty of her mental instability comes to the fore, is that ON ONE cares what she has to say.

She's proven herself a liar. She's proven herself to be a detriment to whatever reptiles she may have. She's proven that grey matter is NOT essential to motor functions. She walks, talks, lies, and cries. The unfortunate part is that not only her kids have to see this but, so do we.

Yes, I'm instigating her again. I'm tired of the pms and disagreements with my posts. There are better ways to express your disagreement. Of course, those ways are also MORE intelligent than ANYTHING you've done so far wendy, so it comes as NO surprise at all the you DO NOT use any thought at all in your trying to play the victim. It may work for whatever protopasmic nimrod knocked you up but I'll tell you now, again, it won't work here.

We know you for what you are. Excess baggage.

 

[dragonflyreptiles]

This thread has moved on from what a terrible reptile keeper wendy is past ALL the lies she's told, blithely skipping past the fact that she is somewhat, read as VERY, unstable, and has now denegrated to her getting mad because some of us question the fact, HA, that she is a good mother. And ol' jeffy dahmer was a great neighbor too.

She is constantly on few of us here, pms, emails, rep points, whatever she can to keep her in our forebrains. What she doesn't seem to realize, and this is where the certainty of her mental instability comes to the fore, is that ON ONE cares what she has to say.

She's proven herself a liar. She's proven herself to be a detriment to whatever reptiles she may have. She's proven that grey matter is NOT essential to motor functions. She walks, talks, lies, and cries. The unfortunate part is that not only her kids have to see this but, so do we.

Yes, I'm instigating her again. I'm tired of the pms and disagreements with my posts. There are better ways to express your disagreement. Of course, those ways are also MORE intelligent than ANYTHING you've done so far wendy, so it comes as NO surprise at all the you DO NOT use any thought at all in your trying to play the victim. It may work for whatever protopasmic nimrod knocked you up but I'll tell you now, again, it won't work here.

We know you for what you are. Excess baggage.

Wes, to bad you can;t tell the truth, you PM'd me and I replied so sue me for replying to you, if I had not you would be here bitching that you PM'd me and I refused to reply.

I think you are a pretty smart guy too, and think that your intelligence would be of better benefit to all if you used it to help people rather than to hurt them but thats your call.

I don't hold alot of value on what you think of me at all, go figure.

You have been suspended from fauna more than any other member in the history of this site, glad to see it works for you.

You can cry about all this all you want to too, doesn't bother me a bit!

 

[Chris@TSE]

 

[Wilomn]

I don't hold alot of value on what you think of me at all, go figure.

If this is not yet ANOTHER lie, then just leave me alone.

I believe the pm I sent you was to inform you that you were, once again, wrong and I sent the pm so as not to bring out your continued ignorance on the BOI.

A necropsy, when used for a definitive cause of death, cannot be performed on a carcass that has been frozen.

If you're looking for parasites, you may well be able to find something even after freezing BUT some may be destroyed, and made unidentifiable, by freezing.

You were too stupid to figure out that I was actually trying to help you out.

NO MORE.

Please cease contact with me.

I will only address your lies and stupid advice as I see you dispensing such to unwary innocents, who do not know how LITTLE you know, in the threads you participate in. And if, by chance, you ever get anything right, I might even have something to say then.

 

[dragonflyreptiles]

If this is not yet ANOTHER lie, then just leave me alone.

I believe the pm I sent you was to inform you that you were, once again, wrong and I sent the pm so as not to bring out your continued ignorance on the BOI.

A necropsy, when used for a definitive cause of death, cannot be performed on a carcass that has been frozen.

If you're looking for parasites, you may well be able to find something even after freezing BUT some may be destroyed, and made unidentifiable, by freezing.

You were too stupid to figure out that I was actually trying to help you out.

NO MORE.

Please cease contact with me.

I will only address your lies and stupid advice as I see you dispensing such to unwary innocents, who do not know how LITTLE you know, in the threads you participate in. And if, by chance, you ever get anything right, I might even have something to say then.

Wes. get over yourself, please and stop spreading your lies!!!!!!!!

You were not trying to help me if you were you would have not said the necropsy COULD NOT be done after freezing and you would have suggested I get it back to get one done, but no, you insisted on even another thread as well that it could not be done.

Your PM and if I mistook this and this is your intended help, NO THANKS:

wilomn
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It is possible that I have confused the thread in which you told so very many lies with another that discussed necropsies.

Refresh my memory. Was it or was it not discussed in one of your bearded dragon threads?

If so, then all the answers to your questions can be found there.

You are an irritation. You seem to have a hard time learning.

If I was wrong, well, it's happened before. If I'm right, well, let's just leave it there.

It just seems to me that you're asking questions that have been answered the LAST time you were in the spotlight here.
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I may not be very smart, but I can lift heavy things.

 

[CRGriffin]

If this is not yet ANOTHER lie, then just leave me alone.

I believe the pm I sent you was to inform you that you were, once again, wrong and I sent the pm so as not to bring out your continued ignorance on the BOI.

A necropsy, when used for a definitive cause of death, cannot be performed on a carcass that has been frozen.

If you're looking for parasites, you may well be able to find something even after freezing BUT some may be destroyed, and made unidentifiable, by freezing.

You were too stupid to figure out that I was actually trying to help you out.

NO MORE.

Please cease contact with me.

I will only address your lies and stupid advice as I see you dispensing such to unwary innocents, who do not know how LITTLE you know, in the threads you participate in. And if, by chance, you ever get anything right, I might even have something to say then.

wes i will not address your lies as you are sad about trying to cover up your lies at best i think people can read maybe not but i think they can and i am sure you said my wife was well alot of things and oh welllllllllll

i also believe that my wife will most likely kick me in the ass in the am when she reads this but i really do not care at this point, i did promise her to leave this alone cause she can handle her own battles but some of you will not let a dead dog have its own funeral so lets see whats up about lies

wes do i need to get all your messages on this and prove you lied as well as others about about death certificate thingy not even sure what it is or called but i know it can be done now or is that the response on the subject of my wife a given death certificate cannot be done after a critter has been frozen at all but on other subjects it can as need be and so on........

on the other hand you say it can be done now so so many weeeeeks later it can be done so whats the change of heart did you lie about my wifes topic or think that no one would read more than one thing confused i am really it can can't can can't can can't can't can't or is it that it depends on who the topic is about so for my wife it can't be done but for someone else it can im confused

mike mclaughin aka MC LAUGH IN at YOU are you laughing now are you since a while back you toasted the tail of your critter and yes i do read this board a lot but never reply cause thats my wifes job on this but did you not know how or why or whatever did you not read alot of books and know basic info at all sad that you do not know how to take care of the critters you have to the point that you brun their poor tails or did you think that you could get by and that your lack of knowing anything you never burn its poor tail to shreads and claim that is was pure ignorance

man chris i feel for you i had my first child at 19 and my second at 21 and was divorced at 22 i was ashamed but you brag about being a 15/16 year old parent

but some people think that rules only apply to some things me they apply to all dont make babies as a kid and if you do dear peace of the later years of youngesters do not brag about it as if it is a good thing of being a 15 year old parent

wendy was really good to accept my chilren and make a home for them and for the ones we had together many years later

so i am a rambling idiot too and as to the topic i think i am on

is my wife wacko
yes she is a damn idiot in all terms of the use of the word she thinks she has to clean every cage every day maybe its ocd dont know dont care but she thinks that if she gives out some crickets in the pm to those damn geckos that the crtitters dont eat by the am that she has to catch the damn things and get them out so stupid yes she is insane hey i live with her yes she is he is insane to think she has to weigh every critter every week and write it all down and remove uneaten food every time it is not eaten insane to me yes but to her thats the way it should be

im not sure what any of you want or think and i really really really can't think of anything other than this

1 some guy got a reptile from my wife in trade for another repilte
2 our reptile got there on whatever day wed i think
3 our reptile died on day 5 sunday i think
4 his reptile was not requested to be sent cause of above factors
5 yes it really really sucks, this transaction was between 2 people and 1 of those that was about to ship a gecko the next day had a critter die just before shipping time
6 but the guy was out nothing except that after he talked about her here he was made out to be a make shift breeder at best
7 this was not a deal with anoy one other than that guy and im sorry to call him that but i only know it was a guy named dan
8 a ton of people that had nothing to do with the deal got envolved
9 in any other case that tons of people would complain that the deal had nothing to do with outsiders
10 well there is no 10 my wife is not stupid, but yes a little wacko

 

[Wilomn]

Okay, no one can really blame me for this.

hrrrmph....haacck, haarrruuummpphhh, mi mi mi miiiii.... Ok

HAHAHAHAhahahahahaHHAHAHAHAHAhahahahahaHAHAHAHAHahahahahAHAHAHAHaHaHAHahaHaHaHAHAHAHAHAhahahahahahaHHAHHAHAHAHahaHahAHAHahahahHAHaHahaha

If you're not wendy pretending to be someone else, and IF you ever learn to communicate in english, come on back and try again. You made NO sense at all.