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[brd7666]

That's not exactly accurate. Robyn is not blocked from posting on this site and can make his own choices about where he posts and what he posts. As long as he does so withing the rules, of course.

My exact statement referenced to above is as follows:


The thread where this statement was made is here -> http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=179137

You help him to get going, and this is what Robyn has to say about Fauna. This is a screen shot of him calling Fauna a "nonsense board". I blotched out the name, so noone knows where this came from.

What a nice guy, NOT.

It's amazing how some people treat those who help them get where they are. I guess he figures, he doesn't need you anymore.

 

[Shadera]

Heh. Like we don't know where that came from.

At least this place is honest about what it is.

 

[deborahbroadus]

I think you are missing the point. The basic point of all the "breast beaters" is whether or not SYR is acting as a Third Party Shipper with FedEx's blessings or if this is another possibly fraudulent claim to be legit.

If this is not legit and FedEx is "flooded" with unregistered shippers that it can't monitor, it can and possibly will have negative consequences on the whole.

FedEx allows certified shippers to ship under the radar with their blessings. However, I very much doubt if they would be pleased to have to deal with "Johnny come lately" and all his friends going under that same radar illicitly.

Imo, there is no cumulative effect when FedEx is dealing with INDIVIDUALS, as each is judged on his/her own merit.

Yeah.....

A lot of people who've bloviated in the past about SYR, RE, UPS and have stood on the soap box beating their chests and rending their hair about other people potentially ruining their shipping privileges ship residential. That also goes for the proper labeling procedures........I have not exactly seen across the board adherence to that either.

How do I know? I've does business with them. They've sold me some real nice animals, packed 'em up real spiffy-like and they've never done me wrong, but if we're talking percentages here, I'd say in the last three years the only person I've done business with who refuses to ship residential and labels correctly is one - Jeff Mohr - and no one has ever asked if my home address is a viable business address.

I'm talking in excess of 15 certifiable good guys here and many more who are fairly well known in the trade. So if the new criteria for being a good and honorable business man is adhering to all of Fed Ex's rules and not pissing in the punch bowl - most people ain't gonna make the cut.

I figure if Fed Ex was really up on the ball, everyone who has shipped to me in the past with the exception of one or two individuals was not adhering to the rules.

Hell, I figure if we really wanted to stir the pot around here, why don't we ask customers of some of the more opinionated people here if they've ever received a Fed Ex shipment to their residential address or better yet, if the box was labeled correctly.

Having said that, getting Fed Ex certified is ridiculously easy and even factoring in Delta Dash, it's the last convenient option open to us. I have no faith in either PE or Fed Ex to deal with potential issues if they come up. Rationally, I'd like to think that PE is able to transfer liability to the person who uses their services. On the same token, I'd like to think that if something goes wrong here, Fed Ex is hip enough to leave all the, ahem, rule abiding individually certified shippers alone.

 

[crotalusadamanteus]

I'd be curious to know how many of the people who aren't "lazy" and have their own account, ship to residential addresses. We've heard from one person, I'm curious to hear from others.

I have several times. Had them come to my house to pick up some of those too.

I realize what FedEx's rules are, but when talking to my rep on the phone, I was told it would be OK, but I would have to pay an extra fee. I paid an extra fee each time, and the package was picked up and delivered with no problems.

I just wish I had the forethought to talk to her via email, so I would have written proof since the subject seems to be so popular.

 

[2amcreations]

Deb, its already been said multiple times. You don't need a FedEx account to ship, just walk up to a counter at a shipping store with your box and an address. There are TONS of people shipping just like that right now. No waivers, no accounts, no nothing. And it hasn't brought about the end of the reptile shipping world. I'm sure that FedEx must know this happens.

With SYR FedEx has somebody they can come back on and yell at when somebody can't be bothered to pack a box properly. SYR is at least making an attempt to get folks to pack a box in a manner that keeps the snake inside and safe.

 

[2amcreations]

Maybe Robyn called this board nonsense because of threads like this?

So far there have been claims, stated as fact, that he never had a waiver (just because he wouldn't show it to them) ....even though some folks have seen the waiver.

There are folks railing against him saying he broke UPS rules...while they break FedEx rules but pretend they don't.

Or the folks that just don't like SYR, PE or Robyn taking any chance they get to make comments about how evil and bad they are.

Btw....I'm not saying Robyn isn't evil....I'm pretty sure he is, but I don't think it has anything to do with shipping critters.

 

[Skiploder]

I think you are missing the point. The basic point of all the "breast beaters" is whether or not SYR is acting as a Third Party Shipper with FedEx's blessings or if this is another possibly fraudulent claim to be legit.

If this is not legit and FedEx is "flooded" with unregistered shippers that it can't monitor, it can and possibly will have negative consequences on the whole.

FedEx allows certified shippers to ship under the radar with their blessings. However, I very much doubt if they would be pleased to have to deal with "Johnny come lately" and all his friends going under that same radar illicitly.

Imo, there is no cumulative effect when FedEx is dealing with INDIVIDUALS, as each is judged on his/her own merit.

There's no point to miss.

If people shipping under the SYR umbrella mess up - then Fed Ex should deal with SYR.

SYR also provides another service - and that's packing materials and instruction on how to properly pack your animals. Maybe, just maybe Fed Ex is banking on the fact that someone taking the time to instruct people on how to properly overnight reptiles may have a positive effect.

Then again, maybe not.

In the meantime, since everyone is so concerned about following all of the rules, I'm going to start warning people about shippers who don't follow the business to business model (under individual certification) or who don't label properly.

That way, everyone who is concerned with our future with Fed Ex can can help preserve that option.

 

[deborahbroadus]

Ok, maybe it's the word that's missed: Whether or not SYR is shipping LEGITIMATELY is the concern. The points about lying, and suggesting others lie about what's in the box, as I see it, are just EXAMPLES of why we are concerned about SYR newest attempt to be a third party shipper and this time with a shipping company that already allows those that take the trouble to get a waiver to ship under the radar.

I don't see it as people being overly concerned with the rules, per se, but I do see it as people pointing out previous lies that have them concerned over this newest venture.

If SYR can provide documentation that FedEx is on board and will bend their own TOS and allow residental shipping, more power to them!

There's no point to miss.

If people shipping under the SYR umbrella mess up - then Fed Ex should deal with SYR.

SYR also provides another service - and that's packing materials and instruction on how to properly pack your animals. Maybe, just maybe Fed Ex is banking on the fact that someone taking the time to instruct people on how to properly overnight reptiles may have a positive effect.

Then again, maybe not.

In the meantime, since everyone is so concerned about following all of the rules, I'm going to start warning people about shippers who don't follow the business to business model (under individual certification) or who don't label properly.

That way, everyone who is concerned with our future with Fed Ex can can help preserve that option.

 

[Skiploder]

Ok, maybe it's the word that's missed: Whether or not SYR is shipping LEGITIMATELY is the concern. The points about lying, and suggesting others lie about what's in the box, as I see it, are just EXAMPLES of why we are concerned about SYR newest attempt to be a third party shipper and this time with a shipping company that already allows those that take the trouble to get a waiver to ship under the radar.

I don't see it as people being overly concerned with the rules, per se, but I do see it as people pointing out previous lies that have them concerned over this newest venture.

If SYR can provide documentation that FedEx is on board and will bend their own TOS and allow residental shipping, more power to them!

I'm fairly neutral on Pro-Exotics, but I do wonder what they plan to do if Fed Ex overreacts in a scenario where there are shipping issues and pulls the plug on snake and/or reptile shipments for everyone.

I figure that we can't look at what happened with SYR V1.0 and assume they will walk away - because a shutdown by both carriers for snake shipping would smack them in the nuts quicker and harder than maybe you or I.

I'm not familiar with the lies associated with SYR V1.0, but I am concerned with people - regardless of whether or not they ship under SYR's blanket cert or an individual cert, continuing to label incorrectly and ship to residences...and yes there are plenty of people already shipping reptiles
Fed Ex without certs. If SYR V1.1 is legit, maybe their service will pull in these "scofflaws".

I ASSume that PE will, on their own website, post proof of their certification with Fed Ex.....................

 

[deborahbroadus]

I won't be talking about SYR and a FedEx partnership as if it is a reality at least until I have better information than a few words and opinions.

But, it certainly will be interesting to me to see if FedEx is going to take on an additional work load (shipping residential) when they currently don't allow it even to those with waivers.

It was explained to me by my Representative (when I first realized that although my business is licensed,..yada, yada..it's not considered a BUSINESS per their requirements) that FedEx does not do Residental shipping because with live animals, there's the risk that someone may not be home to receive the package, but with an ACTUAL business establishment, someone is always there during work hours.

So, knowing this information, I really would be interested in seeing if FedEx is going to change their mind and take on the additional work load of shipping animals to residences and risking having to make several trips, keep the animal in the van/facility overnight, or having an animal die in their care because they couldn't make the delivery.

I'm fairly neutral on Pro-Exotics, but I do wonder what they plan to do if Fed Ex overreacts in a scenario where there are shipping issues and pulls the plug on snake and/or reptile shipments for everyone.

I figure that we can't look at what happened with SYR V1.0 and assume they will walk away - because a shutdown by both carriers for snake shipping would smack them in the nuts quicker and harder than maybe you or I.

I'm not familiar with the lies associated with SYR V1.0, but I am concerned with people - regardless of whether or not they ship under SYR's blanket cert or an individual cert, continuing to label incorrectly and ship to residences...and yes there are plenty of people already shipping reptiles
Fed Ex without certs. If SYR V1.1 is legit, maybe their service will pull in these "scofflaws".

I ASSume that PE will, on their own website, post proof of their certification with Fed Ex.....................

 

[Angel Rojas]

I hate to be a pain in the , but I'm at work and my cellphone is acting like a douche. Could someone please post the link to the thread that shows what you must do and the steps to become fed-ex certified.

 

[TripleMoonsExotic]

I hate to be a pain in the , but I'm at work and my cellphone is acting like a douche. Could someone please post the link to the thread that shows what you must do and the steps to become fed-ex certified.

Here you go, my dear...
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=180063

 

[Angel Rojas]

Thanks so much

 

[Kristi23]

I have to say that I'm not lazy, but I'm also not certified thru fed-ex. I tried to get an account multiple times with no luck because they say that my house is not an address. I've gotten no help from anyone that I've talked to. So I went with UPS. I haven't shipped snakes, so it's never been an issue. When SYR stopped shipping, I was still able to use UPS. They all know me and know what I'm shipping (everything is always labeled).

I have noticed that every area is different. I've had great luck with UPS, but a lot of issues with fed ex deliveries here. I'm sure it's the opposite for others. I like having the option of picking shipping companies.

I really hope that this turns out okay and that SYR shows the wavier and correct info to show that they are approved for this. I also hope that fed-ex would realize how much money they would lose out on if they stopped shipping reptiles.

 

[TripleMoonsExotic]

I have to say that I'm not lazy, but I'm also not certified thru fed-ex. I tried to get an account multiple times with no luck because they say that my house is not an address. I've gotten no help from anyone that I've talked to. So I went with UPS. I haven't shipped snakes, so it's never been an issue. When SYR stopped shipping, I was still able to use UPS. They all know me and know what I'm shipping (everything is always labeled).

If you're still interested in getting certified and would like some help, PM me your account and contact information and I will get it pushed through my contacts. I offer the help to anyone that has issues getting certified and so far I believe it's been 100% successful getting moved along.

 

[Kristi23]

If you're still interested in getting certified and would like some help, PM me your account and contact information and I will get it pushed through my contacts. I offer the help to anyone that has issues getting certified and so far I believe it's been 100% successful getting moved along.

I haven't even been able to get an account with them because of it. I am planning on going to one of their hub type places to talk with someone in person. If I can get an account, I'm sure I'll be able to get certified.

Thank you for offering to help. I'll make sure to contact you if I need anything. I really appreciate it.

 

[Southern Wolf]

I'm not familiar with the lies associated with SYR V1.0,

Then maybe you should read the beginning of this thread and I think there is an old one in the shipping forum as well. Maybe you will change your tune. Read before you speak. It keeps you from having to apologize later.

 

[Southern Wolf]

It was explained to me by my Representative (when I first realized that although my business is licensed,..yada, yada..it's not considered a BUSINESS per their requirements) that FedEx does not do Residental shipping because with live animals, there's the risk that someone may not be home to receive the package, but with an ACTUAL business establishment, someone is always there during work hours.

So, knowing this information, I really would be interested in seeing if FedEx is going to change their mind and take on the additional work load of shipping animals to residences and risking having to make several trips, keep the animal in the van/facility overnight, or having an animal die in their care because they couldn't make the delivery.

Deb they dont guarantee live arrival and they dont do refunds .... that was part of why we signed the waiver. Why should they care if no-one is home to accept delivery. They are completely off the hook.

 

[Khaman]

Deb they don't guarantee live arrival and they don't do refunds .... that was part of why we signed the waiver. Why should they care if no-one is home to accept delivery. They are completely off the hook.

The same reason was given to me years ago for the business to business clause so it was not her rep pulling answers out of a hat. I agree with your reasoning though which also makes the SYR claim of 10:30 delivery guaranteed a bit suspicious because Fed Ex is not going to refund the shipping and I doubt SYR will be footing the bill either.

 

[deborahbroadus]

Deb they dont guarantee live arrival and they dont do refunds .... that was part of why we signed the waiver. Why should they care if no-one is home to accept delivery. They are completely off the hook.

Not "completely." They do have a time period where they will keep attempting if the shipper asks for a signature, or the package has to sit in the facilities until someone picks it up. This is additional work compared to the packages that can be left at a business with someone's signature.