Since this has not died down yet, and there is a lot of false stuff going around I feel the need to make a statement. First off I want to apoligize to the girl I cursed out. During the month of
Feb and early March I had multiple surgeries and should not have been making public statements at that time. It was a rough month. But I need to point out a few things here.
Yes, this did not get handled well. But the fact remains that the gecko in question still has a
Negative autopsy report, and the positive was from a home test. Highly effective but not 100 percent.
Now I am not a rich person by any means, so no I could not and cannot afford to test
The few hundred geckos i have individually at 25 bucks a pop. Especially with the hugely
Successful breeding season we are currently having. I did like I said and sent off as many as I could afforsand those were negative. I also can do my own stains at home and have and even though they are not 100 percent they are free for me to do myself. Now I understand that nobody here is going to take my
Word on that and I accecpt that, but its the truth. I also commonly hit all my animals with de wormer just to be safe. I KNOW THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH CRYPTO, but its part of my protocol. Now let me say right now, I can start posting proof of this stuff shortly if need be. Now we get on to the good parts.
I need to start with the ringleader here it seems, Heather Johnson.. you have had a personal
Vendetta with my wife for years. It all goes back to when we got some very sick geckos from some good
Freinds of yours, who I am not mentioning yet,because I dont think they are running their mouths right now And Amanda settled it with them at the shawnee show earlier in 2013 where byron gillen on here came to attend because we convinced him to and traded me a ball for a bunch of leopard geckos he had to have, but we will get to that shortly.. Now the majority of the people I am seeing here have either never dlne business with me, clain they have but dont go into details or are a competitor of mine. Just people sitting around and judging. This part is gonna be real good for them. If i choose to vend a show, most promoters are still willing to let me in with veterinary proof I have healthy animals. Not a problem, AND I can have it done by an outside vet, not where I work just so foul play is not
Suspected. Now lets jump on to Byron gilen and this Denver group of vendors. Byrons last purchase from me was at the Utah show not "years ago" I even let him pay me a few days later via paypal. Got proof jf it.. And we have done regular business for 2 years now and I considered him a freind of mine so his post really hurts. What a shitty freind.. Hell just a couple weeks ago he was asking about buying all my flying geckos and some veilds from me. Got copies of that too. Now even though I considered him a freind I was always leary of him, I learned this when he attended a show in tulsa last summet after I moved anf asked if he didnt mind picking up some banded geckos and toads for me from a freind. But my freind didnt have paypal so if he had the cash pick em up and I would meet him on his way back for them. Well tirns out byron didnt come back with them, not a big deal that was just a favor anyways, but he told the guy he could only pay him in leopards geckos and gave the guy the assumtion they were my
Geckos he took to sale. Byron told me the guy would never give him any pricea so he wouldnt do it
Not that he prices were his business anyway. Then I knew not to fully trust byron, but I just blew it off Hell i enjoyed his perverted company. And I can go on with more stories like that, but this next one sums the rwst up about my former freind here because I know he is just about money with this one and that is why him and the rest of that group want me out of the shows. Back earlier this year you traded a glider for a bunch of gecko morphs and tiny baby veilds and were just thrilled you got all these badass morphs soo heap in the trade. You got my dear wife to verify the morphs for you. She flat out told you the raptors were plain albinos and soo forth and they were thin, had mbd abd looked like shit and the veilds were 1/4 the size they should be sold at, but you didnt care because of the price, you started selling them before the dude left the show. Funny part is you were wrong about the glider morph and you both totally screwed the other, now of course when you got home you started posting pics of the babies saying jakl now producing
Baby veilds!!! And you have been trying to buy my breeder veilds ever since.
WOW what a freind you were, I forgot to mention when i had that first emergency surgery in denver right before the rocky mountain expo, your wife mel offered to give me a ride from the hospital to the show because i was getting discharged the sat of the show and how I sat there for hours and ended up calling a taxi for a ride because she worked all night and didnt show to get me. But She is a nice person and I never held that against her or you. It was a nice favor if it would have happened. Moving on to the rest of
Your possible crew. First they all hate us because we have better geckos ay better prices and we do Kill your sales at shows. Funny thing is your all selling some of my friggin geckos.. one of em if is is still around did some massive trades with us, but we didnt know he was selling our geckos to everybody else which caused a problem at a show over a who bred this diablo blanco or is it a shatter eye blizzard. Long story short he sold all his geckos to multiple local breeders then sold the racks they were in to another.
So that leaves just about every one of them with my geckos or racks that held my geckos. Most are not publically talking crud that I know of so Ill omit their names for now, I am usually a very
Respectful person in that way. Doesnt show here, but I am. So if people are going at my throat to get me banned most like mr gillen here have dirty motives. Still in shock a freind would do that what a prick. Been to my home one time when i was moving here and always told people we were the best of the best and I did the same in return. And anybody else on here that got a crappy animal from me, you didnt bring it to my attention or I would have handled it, hopefully the right way and not the way I recently did. Now I am not asking anybody here for any redemption, I just needed to point a few things out because this has spiraled soo far out of control. If I must start posting paypal transactions, pm messages, text and emails hen so be it, but there are soo many credible witnesses to all this I dont think I will need to. I can post pics of my microscope and slides and stains, Ill get my hard copy crypto test results in hard copy from my reptile vet who handles my health cerificates and post them soon with my health cerificate signed as well.
And I regardless of show rules I will have a current health cerificate covering every animal I have for sale, which I already have as well. Yes this sucks this girls gecko died. And nobody seems to mention the pinworm egg that is in the autopsy which is common, but the reason I de worm. And I did de worm everyhing before that show because when I get health certificates If I fail a fecal I cant get one. So if there was only 1 egg at least that was working. But I am embarrassed that it had any. Nobody mentions how a parasite load of something common like the pinworm egg that was found can manifest similar conditions to crypto or how a big dose of wormer can cause stress on the liver and kidneys as well as the parasite itself. I did offer to send meds at first. Would have been a pro biotic that is over the counter to re build benificial bacteria after getting wiped out by something like panacur. And I have vet reciepts going back to 2011 showing that I commonly got panacur, baytril, metro etc. To treat animals as needed as any responsible breeder does. And I still feel today that if she would have taken my advice she would have a hralthy gecko without crypto. But with the variables given I can see how the home test could have been a false positive. Even with negative autopsy results nobody else can. About like taking a home pregnacy test and going to the doctor and finding out your not. That never happens either I suppose.. Anyhow enough is enough. There is plenty here to keep everybody busy for days. Ill add more as needed to verify every single word of it. Respectfully-Mike Webb
Also a very personal Thank You to the Customers, fellow vendors, and promoters that are
Standing by our side and handling this in a professional matter. If you dont have the cahones to talk to me privatly about a matter before talking smack, then you shouldnt be talking at all.