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Bad Guy Avangel Reptiles- parasitic reptiles, and more

While I have not received any infractions for this post (aside from the anonymous third party thing) I have gotten loads on anonymous negative karma, with some absolutely rude and ridiculous comments that I think should not have affected my karma score. I think the only way we'd be penalized for not providing evidence is by fellow members who get offended by it. And because it's anonymous, it could be from Chaz for all we know.
 
NekoGeckos said:
While I have not received any infractions for this post (aside from the anonymous third party thing) I have gotten loads on anonymous negative karma, with some absolutely rude and ridiculous comments that I think should not have affected my karma score. I think the only way we'd be penalized for not providing evidence is by fellow members who get offended by it. And because it's anonymous, it could be from Chaz for all we know.
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Infractions relate to rules, karma relates to the way others view what you say. If you wish to discuss your dissatisfaction with your karma score, the Fauna Feedback forum is a more appropriate venue.
Karma is not anonymous. However, seeing who left you karma os a perk for contributing members.
 
Lucille said:
Infractions relate to rules, karma relates to the way others view what you say. If you wish to discuss your dissatisfaction with your karma score, the Fauna Feedback forum is a more appropriate venue.
Karma is not anonymous. However, seeing who left you karma os a perk for contributing members.
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I was just about to say, you can clearly see who leaves you positive (or negative) karma if you are a contributing member. I will openly say that I have left you both negative and positive karma based on the posts you have made. It is not anonymous if you pay for a membership.
 
Im fed up with the bull *snap* on this website. Make a thread to warn people about a *shnatty* seller and it turns into arguing about whos more experienced with rape claims and i simply asked numerous times to please regain focus on the issue at hand and somehow every fracking comment i make theres snide remarks being made right back by holier than thou admin wannabes. I do recall being coached about evidence in the beginning stages of the post by a moderator. If it was not in the first couple of pages, then it was possibly a private message. But who the frack knows? Theres so many pages of endless banter about other people and their drama and whether or not so and so is a ho or a victim, that it would take forever to find any relevant info. So im done with this website.
I simply wanted the post to regain focus on the actual person the post is about, but since you people are too immature to handle that, and want to just pick a fight over every little thing, Ill just keep any future complaints to myself and you people can figure it out your own damn selves. Because you talk about me making this an unwelcoming place for victims but the holier than thou d bags are the ones that make this an unwelcoming and very much so bs site. I asked politely numerous times for the thread to regain focus on chaz and not on dariens private matters, before being accused of "dictating". So yeah... im fed up.
 
KFoxysGeckos said:
i simply asked numerous times to please regain focus on the issue at hand
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KFoxysGeckos said:
holier than thou admin wannabes.
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So if you try to direct the conversation it's fine, but if others do it, not so much?

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I think that is very good advice. This is getting out of hand.

Please stick to the topic which is: Avangel Reptiles. We have discussion forums for the other topics.
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The moderators here are obviously watching this thread. If you feel that you want to contact them, by all means do so. I believe that if your contact with them contains relevant requests, their input and action may be more effective and beneficial than a meltdown by you.
Sometimes the way in which you address an issue can have direct bearings on whether it is effectively reviewed. You may not necessarily get what you want all the time, but hostility rarely brings relief.
 
Lucille said:
The moderators here are obviously watching this thread. If you feel that you want to contact them, by all means do so. I believe that if your contact with them contains relevant requests, their input and action may be more effective and beneficial than a meltdown by you.
Sometimes the way in which you address an issue can have direct bearings on whether it is effectively reviewed. You may not necessarily get what you want all the time, but hostility rarely brings relief.
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I love you Lucille /my spam ends here/ back to the reptiles and discussion about how chaz is a... less rounded individual
 
Do you hear that sound? It's the sound of a train wreck. If it was inferred upon my end that anyone was raped, that is not the issue. I'm more worried about the fact that this has now trekked so far down into the rape hole. The purpose of this thread was to post about chaz, to post about the atrocities that he has committed sexual and/or animal abuse. We have now detracted away from that.

Sure cross examine, but nit picking isn't going to help. The thread is being printed and reviewed by proper authorities, why add more jargon to it? Each page on this post is 7 pages printed. This will impede investigators in their means to put chaz away. Why can't we get back to the topic at hand instead of focusing specifically at Nekos information. She said when she has the evidence she will post back. Until then it's a waiting game for that and any new victim to come forward. I use victim liberally here as anyone scammed ect.

Everyone took Kayla's postings the wrong way as tone is not inferred in text. I agree with Kayla, we need to take a step back and look at future posters who will come here and read this. They may be off put by the hard scrutiny of their posts without evidence. I understand that it could be lies, that needs to be backed by irrefutable evidence. I just hope they don't post out of fear or possible victim shaming.

A moderator has already said that the topic needs to get back on track.

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I meant to say before my phone hijacked my sentence: If it was inferred upon my end that anyone was specifically raped by Chaz, that was not my intention. I was just saying that he may have, which neko cleared up, but judging from her posts she has been raped just not by chaz.

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You beat me to that quote by about 2 minutes Andrea, it took me that long to read through all the garbage here since last night!
I dont think I have EVER seen a BOI thread get so out of hand and off track as this one!
Even when instructed to leave matters alone and get back on track "certain individuals" insisted on pushing it back to another subject entirely.
If there is no more usefull posts appertaining to the original thread then this may as well be done with
 
crowtree99 said:
You beat me to that quote by about 2 minutes Andrea, it took me that long to read through all the garbage here since last night!
I dont think I have EVER seen a BOI thread get so out of hand and off track as this one!
Even when instructed to leave matters alone and get back on track "certain individuals" insisted on pushing it back to another subject entirely.
If there is no more usefull posts appertaining to the original thread then this may as well be done with
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I am under the impression that we have a new victim that will be posting his story as soon as he figures out his password or makes a new account. Hopefully this will happen soon so the aforementioned subject will be dropped and we can move forward with this.

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I wouldn't encourage creating a second account - that just leads to more issues
 
Also, I haven't looked at this thread in several days; but most of this entire page could be considered disruptive and off-topic (meaning not relevant to the subject of Avangel Reptiles - even with a healthy dose of leniency for side issues). April has already posted a warning in this thread, and it has been reposted a few times by others.
Chatter about karma and infractions are not relevant to the topic at hand - take it to the Feedback Forum. Spare us your meltdown (and fix your profile before posting again Ms Jackson). I'll do everybody a favor and scroll backwards...but, moving forward, understand that the tolerance threshold will be low.
 
I did some research on retrieving text messages the other day because I was curious, and it turns out carriers actually have no records of messages that were sent. They can look up phone calls, times, recipients, etc, but the messages themselves are only on the phones.

If Darien was using an iPhone it's possible that they were backed up when linking the phone to a computer, but otherwise there is basically no chance of retrieving them.

That being said, after watching her accuse 3 other people of terrible things and refusing to provide evidence, I didn't really expect anything. The fact that she didn't even reply on here tells me that she didn't even make an attempt to get the records, as her phone company would have immediately told her that they have no access to them. Since she wasn't even aware of that, she obviously never bothered.

That, or she has the text records but realized that they put her in a very bad light. Either way I wouldn't be surprised.
 
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With that being said, nothing else needs to be said regarding this topic each individual can choose whether or not to believe her on their own and really nothing else needs to be said.
 
Back to the topic at hand is there a update on the geckos and the case against Chaz?


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Central Coast Herps said:
With that being said, nothing else needs to be said regarding this topic each individual can choose whether or not to believe her on their own and really nothing else needs to be said.
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Sure, when someone states that they're going to provide evidence though, people generally expect that they will do so. She came onto fauna about a week ago, spread around a bunch of rumors to cause drama and potentially ruin people's businesses (this is one of FOUR people she accused of doing things with zero proof), and now is too traumatized to provide evidence. Give me a break.
 
Last I saw, the geckos were still in his hands, but no one has bought any from him, so no one has gotten screwed over further by him. Hopefully the story is the same with his ball pythons, i don't think anyone knows their condition at this point.
 
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