Bad Guy Chris Guarino cguarino30 Horrible ethic

[ronritzer]

So there is a possibility that he could have been straight up lying in order to get $30 bucks back cause he didnt like heat "damage" or having to clean the racks.

 

[cguarino30]

So there is a possibility that he could have been straight up lying in order to get $30 bucks back cause he didnt like heat "damage" or having to clean the racks.

It seems more likely than the heat tape somehow becoming dislodged and being unable to be found, and it would also explain a lot of the facts.

There is also the possibility that the dirt and heat "damage" had nothing to do with it, and he just wanted to see if he could cajole $30 out of me. He seemed a little defensive as soon as I arrived, like he was trying to build a case. The first thing he said when he saw the racks was that they looked like they were wood and not PVC, which anyone would who knows the difference would never mistake for each other.

Either way, now that I've done due diligence and have all the facts, I've opened up a BG thread on him. The way I see it, either he's lying and is a scam artist,

OR

there was some sort of honest mistake in which the heat was lost (not many possibilities that don't involve gremlins on that one, but still possible) and this guy is completely unstable

so I feel it was my duty to warn the rest of the board about him. Honestly, I hope he's just a scam artist, because if he was serious, I would be seriously concerned for the safety of anyone he deals with.

 

[Fangthane]

So there is a possibility that he could have been straight up lying in order to get $30 bucks back cause he didnt like heat "damage" or having to clean the racks.

And there's an equal likelihood that the OP of this thread is flat-out lying in order to save face and deflect attention from the following facts:

There was undisclosed damage, which appears to be more than slight disoloration and cracking. Does cracked plastic NOT lose a degree of structural integrity? Would that NOT be something that most of us would feel is worth making known, in an ad?

He's too lazy to clean something before selling it, and that the the pictures in his own ad clearly show that there are some parts that aren't present. Which, in and of itself, backs up the buyer's claim.

The seller receives a text message within 10 minutes of leaving, but chooses not to answer it for an hour, which conveniently allows him to play the distance card. While the seller chooses to portray the offered resolution of refunding $30 of the delivery fee as a "demand", the following text message certainly doesn't come across as aggressive or demanding at all:

Dan 3:41pm: Hey bud, where are the cords? The panel for one unit is missing entirely. This is not as advertised. Give me 30 of the 50 back & we will be square.

Also, it's hard to read the following statements from the seller as anything that would lead one to believe that he's interested in taking any serious responsibility in the matter:

Guarino 5:22pm: Honestly, even assuming the mistake is on my end, I still feel like you got a pretty good deal. you traded a $300 item (also not quite as new as you claimed.)

Guarino 5:24pm : The $50 was to cover gas money. it didnt even do that,but im not complaining. I'm just saying that asking for 30 of it back is unreasonable given the trade.

Guarino 5:28pm : I will check my garage when I get home sunday to make sure they are not there. and If they are I will send them, but if not I think we can both cut losses

Guarino 5:56pm : Yes, I did. I will check my garage. If I find them, I will send them. If I do not, we will both just have to live with our mutual disappointment.

Clearly, I'm in the minority on this one, but after reading everything, I have to say that I believe the buyer is expressing honest righteous indignation, while the seller comes across as a very petty individual that seems to think he's clever enough to twist things to his liking. As I stated in the other thread, I didn't feel as if the possibility that he'd admit to finding the missing pieces was worth mentioning, since my gut feeling is that he may not be the stand-up guy he's so desperately trying to make himself appear to be.

15) At this point, Dan no longer mentions the missing parts and begins to make complaints about the condition of the racks. He mentions that they are dirty and melted, and renews his attacks on my character

Well, that's not entirely true, is it? He stated from the beginning that he believed them to be filthy. He simply provided pictures to back up his earlier statement. Nice try.

10) Furthermore, another member of the forum comes forward and claims to have done $10,000+ worth of business with me over a period of years with no complaints

And, of course, you'd wanna go out of your way to throw that one in. As if the premise that a single customer has been satisfied in the past, does anything to negate the possibility that you dropped the ball on this one. We've all seen how that idea worked out for many unfortunate people.

 

[Lucille]

Clearly, I'm in the minority on this one, but after reading everything, I have to say that I believe the buyer is expressing honest righteous indignation, while the seller comes across as a very petty individual that seems to think he's clever enough to twist things to his liking. As I stated in the other thread, I didn't feel as if the possibility that he'd admit to finding the missing pieces was worth mentioning, since my gut feeling is that he may not be the stand-up guy he's so desperately trying to make himself appear to be.

I agree with you.

 

[cguarino30]

And there's an equal likelihood that the OP of this thread is flat-out lying in order to save face and deflect attention from the following facts:

There's nothing I can do to disprove this, but do you honestly think I would go to all this trouble just to cover up $10-$20 worth of missing heat tape, when even the OP admits that it is an inconsequential difference, and he would have made the trade without it?

Does cracked plastic NOT lose a degree of structural integrity?

the cracks were very shallow, did not even go half way through the pvc, and also were on the underside of the bottom plate, so no, there would be absolutely no loss to structural integrity. The only thing that bottom plate does is lay in between the tub and the floor.

The seller receives a text message within 10 minutes of leaving, but chooses not to answer it for an hour, which conveniently allows him to play the distance card. While the seller chooses to portray the offered resolution of refunding $30 of the delivery fee as a "demand", the following text message certainly doesn't come across as aggressive or demanding at all:

I didn't answer the text until I was an hour away because that is when I stopped to eat dinner. I was driving at the time, and I do not check text messages while I am driving. There's nothing I can do to prove this, but it is the truth. And I disagree with your use of the term "offered resolution." An offered resolution would have said "would you be able to..." or "would you consider..." or "could you..." or even "I want you to..." His message was an order. Give me the money, and we will be square. This also implies the converse: if you do not give me the money, we will not be square.

Also, it's hard to read the following statements from the seller as anything that would lead one to believe that he's interested in taking any serious responsibility in the matter:

I think my actions speak louder than any words can. I ALREADY TOOK CARE OF THE PROBLEM. How can you possibly say I wouldn't take the responsibility?

Clearly, I'm in the minority on this one,

Unfortunately, I think this is the only thing we agree on.

Well, that's not entirely true, is it? He stated from the beginning that he believed them to be filthy. He simply provided pictures to back up his earlier statement. Nice try.

My point was not that he originally said they were not dirty/discolored. My point was that he said it was not a problem for him. He said the problem was just the heat. It wasn't until after I fixed what he claimed was the problem that he went back and said, well now I'm upset about the dirt and discoloration.

I also don't appreciate your tone. You clearly made up your mind about me long before the facts came in. You don't know me. Don't act like you do.

And, of course, you'd wanna go out of your way to throw that one in. As if the premise that a single customer has been satisfied in the past, does anything to negate the possibility that you dropped the ball on this one. We've all seen how that idea worked out for many unfortunate people.

My point was both about the fact that other people know me to be reasonable and that I do a large amount of business on this website. $10,000 over a few years is nothing to sneeze at. Why would I jeopardize my reputation over $15 worth of heat tape? It doesn't even make any sense.

You also say I "dropped the ball" on this one. I still have yet to deny the possibility of that. It is entirely possible that I did screw up. I can't prove I didn't. But I also feel the need to reiterate I TOOK CARE OF THE PROBLEM. Even if the problem was entirely my fault, I've made good and then some. This thread was started with 2 hours of his agreement to wait 3 days. How is that fair? I fixed the problem, and not only does he not acknowledge that I fixed the problem, now he pretends that that was never the problem, and refuses to apologize, or thank me, or even admit that I might have made a mistake.

Honestly, guys, I'm trying to continue taking this seriously, but frankly, this has been ridiculous from the start. There's nothing I can do to prove that the parts were there, but even giving the OP the benefit of the doubt in every regard, did he still not COMPLETELY overreact? Has he not on many occasions, even within the confines of this thread, gone back on what he said?

Examples:

first he says he's happy with the trade, then when I leave he decides he's not

first he says he will wait for me to go home, then he opens the BG thread anyway

first he says the heat is all that matters, not the dirt and heat "damage", then when the heat parts are replaced, he says he doesn't want them anymore and says its all about the dirt and discoloration

At the very least, nobody can say I went back on my word. I said I would deliver to his home, and I did. I waited for him to approve, and he did. I got him the heat tape on faith that he said was missing, I went home and checked the garage like I said I would.

All of the accusations of me lying, or being underhanded, or misrepresenting facts, are all based on ASSUMPTIONS. I can actually PROVE that Dan goes back on his word, because he's done it throughout this thread. The only allegation that can be made against me is this:

I said I checked them (and I did) and they MAY have been missing some parts, which also can not be proven

I'm sorry Dan had a problem with them being dirt, I never said they were clean. He had every opportunity to inspect them and bring this to my attention, and he looked at them and said they were fine.

I'm sorry the heat "damage" on the bottom was such a problem for Dan. Personally, I didn't think it mattered. If it had been on the sides or on the back, I would have felt differently, because those areas are structural, but the discoloration was there when I bought the racks, and it was never an issue in all the time that I had them.

Again, even if EVERY LITTLE THING that Dan expects us to believe simply on faith is TRUE. NONE OF IT justifies badgering me for 3 hours via text, opening this thread before I had a chance to make ammends, calling my character into question, or insinuating that I mistreat my animals. ALL of that was WAY out of line, and that's just ASSUMING that everything he says is true, and everything I say is false.

 

[cguarino30]

Proof that Dan is at least capable of serious cognitive dissidence:

Whether or not you can call me a liar:

Dan 6:18 pm : u didn’t check sht before u left. If u did explain how it not there?

However as sunday has not come I can not say he out right lied.

he lied. THAT IS MY PROBLEM. He claimed they worked on all three and tested. impossible.

he said they worked he tested them fact is he lied.

The Missing Components

Dan to Guarino 5:53pm: This is simple the heat components the money to replace or im taking this to the BOI on Fauna your choice.

Dan 5:50pm : I am not asking for anything other then the heat or the cost. That’s 32 dollars.

I will be sure to post if he does in fact make this right.

Chris if you find them keep them

i already ordered new heat and a controller. not a big deal.

chris claimed he sent the cords and the heat tape that was missing, I did mention on an earlier post regarding this matter if he came across them or whatever to keep the items, before he sent anything.

Condition:

But most importantly, I dont mind a mess to clean.

i have enough cleaning still left to do.

i forgive the melted issue.

the slight discoloration as chris puts this from the heat tape. do these photos indicate to anyone just discoloration?

Taking Responsibility

and those texts that i posted dont look edited to me.

I should have cleared it up first. i didnt stop him my fault.

those rack came in the exact condition pictured in the ad posted my beginning thread.

I will be sure to post if he does in fact make this right. if not I will keep the forum notified.

Thus why I make no apologies.

I for one am moving on, with no regrets, & for darn sure no apologies .

Anger

frankly I am not enraged as you put it.

After having a private sht fit since,

I NEVER EVER conduct business where integrity is sacrificed or cutting losses is an option. NEVER EVER!!!!

And let’s not forget the text messages regarding whether or not he could wait until I go home and look for the parts:

Dan 5:08pm : Me either. How are you going to resolve this?

Guarino 5:28pm : I will check my garage when I get home sunday to make sure they are not there. and If they are I will send them, but if not I think we can both cut losses

Dan 5:56pm : You didnt tell me anything about resolutions.

Guarino 5:56pm : Yes, I did. I will check my garage. If I find them, I will send them. If I do not, we will both just have to live with our mutual disappointment.

Dan 5:57pm : What is your solution chris?

Dan 6:11 pm : I gave u the benefit of the doubt and suggested an oversight.

Guarino 6:10 pm : And I said, if that is the case, it will be there when I get home
Sunday. I don’t really understand why you are not getting this.

Dan 6:13 pm : then say so. Don’t insult my insult someone before u get pissy. Ill wait til Monday

Guarino 6:13 pm : I said it 3 f---ing times (edited for board propriety)

Dan 6:17 pm : u said when u get home nothing about Sunday.regardless heat aint here. If u don’t find it i dont care. Its not here! & im not ok with disappointment

Guarino 6:34 pm : I will look on Sunday.
Guarino 6:35 pm : Please leave me be until then

Dan: 6:35 pm : then do so

Guarino 6:35 pm : Ok

Dan 7:27 pm : I just finished transcribing text messages pleasd have any further contact on the board of inquiry

And I would like to conclude with what I feel is really the best argument here:

why couldnt he just tell me they needed heat? before driving up here hoping i wouldnt notice.

why not just say they need heat. i would have been ok with that and still offered the trade. since i upgraded to trijicon accupoint.

if he said they need heat i would have still done it.

I agree. Why wouldn’t I just say they needed the heat? I’m no fool. I know the valuable part is the PVC. Fact is, if they had been missing heat, I would have. $100 each for 4x 34 qt boamasters is still a great deal, even if they don’t have any heat. This is the biggest problem for me. You keep saying that I lied about something that NOBODY thinks is significant, not even you. Why would I drive 4 hours out of my way, attempt to defraud a person, jeopardize my reputation, and put up with all of this nonsense, just to cover up what we all agree had no real bearing on the value of the racks, or the viability of the trade? It makes no sense whatsoever. Even you can’t possibly believe I would go to all the trouble just to trick you into this deal.

 

[Snake-Queen]

The seller receives a text message within 10 minutes of leaving, but chooses not to answer it for an hour, which conveniently allows him to play the distance card. While the seller chooses to portray the offered resolution of refunding $30 of the delivery fee as a "demand", the following text message certainly doesn't come across as aggressive or demanding at all:

When I am driving & I get a text message, it does not get answered or looked at till I stop. It is unsafe to read text messages while driving, especially on an interstate.

 

[JColt]

I never answer texts while driving. Chris sent parts. What more could any one ask for? Some times crape happens.

 

[cguarino30]

Thanks, guys. It really means a lot to me that people understand.

 

[Mister Internet]

The seller receives a text message within 10 minutes of leaving, but chooses not to answer it for an hour, which conveniently allows him to play the distance card.

So YOU answer text messages while driving? Frankly, this says far more about you than a seller that... wait a minute, he already did everything in his power to make his customer happy, didn't he?

Some people... I don't text while driving. Period. If you need to reach me while driving, call me, and if you're lucky I'll have my hands-free on and can answer it. If not, you shouldn't have let me leave thinking everything was OK before you called the deal done.

 

[Nature's Cove]

This is insane! there is 7 pages of garbage over simply put lost then replaced parts. why do we have the boi to make everyone aware of bad people right. or to have the PEANUT GALLERIE seek justice. well as far as i can tell all parties should be happy, parts go missing parts get replaced where is the problem. where is the need for all of this nonsense. why do we need to all of this? because this guy wants to tarnish chis's reputation OVER HEAT TAPE THAT WAS SENT OUT TO HIM NEXT DAY. this is crap and APEX where is your need for all of this you have nothing better to do with your day than sit here and choose a side of two guys you dont know? OVER HEAT TAPE. ok so dan ripped out all the heat tape to save 30 dollars (that makes no sense) chis tried to screw dan out of $12 of heat tape (that makes no sense). but in the end chis has the scope dan has brand new heat tape and cords. common sense says problem solved but thats not the way it works for the PEANUT GALLEY. LETS GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS GREAT MISTERY OF THE HEAT TAPE. ALL CRAP
have a nice day

 

[Megpie]

Just throwing this in here. I've seen buyers on here getting a "stern talking to" about jumping the gun for posting a bad guy thread too early and not giving the seller a chance to make it right. Who knows if the seller would have sent him new parts if the BOI wasn't started, but the buyer should have at least given him until Sunday to check his garage, then after that either post or try to work something out.

 

[Megpie]

Or traders... lol I hope you guys knew what I meant by buyer/seller

 

[Mutimbo]

Parts from a friend to replace parts that you thought were sitting in your garage? At your own expense, when you didn't have enough money for gas? Sounds like "I tried to screw you, but you caught on so I'm gonna cover it up before too many people read this." I smell a fish fry.

 

[Fangthane]

So YOU answer text messages while driving? Frankly, this says far more about you than a seller that... wait a minute, he already did everything in his power to make his customer happy, didn't he?

Yes, this is obviously all about me, and that's exactly what I was advocating.

I didn't answer the text until I was an hour away because that is when I stopped to eat dinner. I was driving at the time, and I do not check text messages while I am driving.

Next he claimed he hate to deal to run, but wanted to head out as it was a two hour drive ahead of him.

Unless you're inclined to believe that, half way through his drive, he sat in a restaurant for 2 hours texting, when he was apparently in some sort of hurry to begin with, don't forget to berate him for the possibility that he was driving while texting.

It seems more likely than the heat tape somehow becoming dislodged and being unable to be found, and it would also explain a lot of the facts.

I asked if he had the other cords, Mr Guarino replied they are in the bins you can run them in line.

Look at the pictures from the link in the OP. The seller's own ad clearly shows that there are two cords missing, as well as one strip of heat tape, as you can plainly see that the clip isn't poking up out of the top. Seller claims it's all present, as he supposedly tested it all out before delivery.

Items that the seller claims were inside the tubs, somehow managed to fall out between his "testing" and the time they were delivered. Unlikely. The whole unit is designed to keep snakes safely contained, so it seems counterintuitive that, while being moved from a garage to a vehicle, the tubs are just gonna slide open and allow cords to jump out. Was he rolling it to his vehicle end-over-end?

Heat tape that the pictures seem to show isn't present, which even after falling off would possibly still have some adhesive properties, and is on the inside rear wall of the rack, somehow managed to become "dislodged", curled up in just the right way to slide under the tub, and worked it's way out from underneath a tub which is being held down by the divider directly above it...yeah. You guys can eat this up by the spoonful if you like, but I just don't buy it.

..and APEX where is your need for all of this you have nothing better to do with your day than sit here and choose a side of two guys you dont know? OVER HEAT TAPE. ok so dan ripped out all the heat tape to save 30 dollars (that makes no sense) chis tried to screw dan out of $12 of heat tape (that makes no sense)...

I feel that someone is being very dishonest, so why shouldn't that be actively questioned? We should only really care when it's a higher dollar amount than in this case? You seemingly just read the last page, gauged who the majority feel is the "winner", and put little more thought into it than that. If that's how you feel that the BOI should work, have at it. I disagree. Unfortunately, for me, I'm not someone that's just going to break out the ol' "", and go along with the herd if I believe they're wrong. I don't really need mass approval to validate my own ideas.

..Who knows if the seller would have sent him new parts if the BOI wasn't started..

Very true. And in my eyes, after the seller playing the mutual disappointment card, I could see how that could lead someone to think that he's not overly concerned with the situation, which could lead to "jumping the gun" with a quick BOI post.

I'm not even saying that the seller had any intent to scam the OP. It's just my gut feeling that, based partly on the fact that he blithely handed over dirty equipment, as well as the pictures that show parts missing, he put little to no effort into confirming functionality before delivering. Having actually read this all, I just can't help but have a very strong feeling that the seller was so outraged by the OP having the audacity to call his character into question that, come hell or high water, there was no way that the missing pieces were going to be "found".

 

[Lucille]

The cheapest part of a reptile rack system is the heating system. An electriacl cord costs like 89 cents a foot from a hardware store, and eleven inch heat tape costs about $3.75 cents a foot online. ...
I bet he finds them and sends them to you and its all an honest mistake. Then what?

You would have lost that bet.
There are a few people who are talking about the monetary value of the missing parts that Chris said were there and included. Is that the point?

Chris went into a fury when confronted. He even initiated another BOI thread exonerating himself and vilifying the OP. It was such a hurricane of accusation that no one has even posted to it.http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=341684

I feel that someone is being very dishonest, so why shouldn't that be actively questioned? We should only really care when it's a higher dollar amount than in this case?

Well said.

I'm not even saying that the seller had any intent to scam the OP. It's just my gut feeling that, based partly on the fact that he blithely handed over dirty equipment, as well as the pictures that show parts missing, he put little to no effort into confirming functionality before delivering. Having actually read this all, I just can't help but have a very strong feeling that the seller was so outraged by the OP having the audacity to call his character into question that, come hell or high water, there was no way that the missing pieces were going to be "found".

I think you are right, I think Chris also feels if he screams loud enough, the small voice of justice won't be heard.

 

[cguarino30]

Parts from a friend to replace parts that you thought were sitting in your garage? At your own expense, when you didn't have enough money for gas? Sounds like "I tried to screw you, but you caught on so I'm gonna cover it up before too many people read this." I smell a fish fry.

At the time, I was operating under the assumption that the parts would be there when I got home, as I had no reason to think Dan was lying. I had hoped that by providing the parts earlier, it would make Dan happy (clearly I was wrong) and that I would easily be able to repay my friend when I got the parts from home, since he just had the parts around and was not in any hurry to be paid back.

 

[cguarino30]

Unless you're inclined to believe that, half way through his drive, he sat in a restaurant for 2 hours texting, when he was apparently in some sort of hurry to begin with, don't forget to berate him for the possibility that he was driving while texting.

I stopped to get dinner, then proceeded to my hotel. You will notice another gap in communications after the original response. The "2 hours" of texting that you refer to occurred from my hotel room.

Look at the pictures from the link in the OP. The seller's own ad clearly shows that there are two cords missing, as well as one strip of heat tape, as you can plainly see that the clip isn't poking up out of the top. Seller claims it's all present, as he supposedly tested it all out before delivery.

Items that the seller claims were inside the tubs, somehow managed to fall out between his "testing" and the time they were delivered. Unlikely. The whole unit is designed to keep snakes safely contained, so it seems counterintuitive that, while being moved from a garage to a vehicle, the tubs are just gonna slide open and allow cords to jump out. Was he rolling it to his vehicle end-over-end?

Heat tape that the pictures seem to show isn't present, which even after falling off would possibly still have some adhesive properties, and is on the inside rear wall of the rack, somehow managed to become "dislodged", curled up in just the right way to slide under the tub, and worked it's way out from underneath a tub which is being held down by the divider directly above it...yeah. You guys can eat this up by the spoonful if you like, but I just don't buy it.


I feel that someone is being very dishonest, so why shouldn't that be actively questioned? We should only really care when it's a higher dollar amount than in this case? You seemingly just read the last page, gauged who the majority feel is the "winner", and put little more thought into it than that. If that's how you feel that the BOI should work, have at it. I disagree. Unfortunately, for me, I'm not someone that's just going to break out the ol' "", and go along with the herd if I believe they're wrong. I don't really need mass approval to validate my own ideas.

Very true. And in my eyes, after the seller playing the mutual disappointment card, I could see how that could lead someone to think that he's not overly concerned with the situation, which could lead to "jumping the gun" with a quick BOI post.

I'm not even saying that the seller had any intent to scam the OP. It's just my gut feeling that, based partly on the fact that he blithely handed over dirty equipment, as well as the pictures that show parts missing, he put little to no effort into confirming functionality before delivering. Having actually read this all, I just can't help but have a very strong feeling that the seller was so outraged by the OP having the audacity to call his character into question that, come hell or high water, there was no way that the missing pieces were going to be "found".

I'm not pretending any of this makes sense to me. I won't pretend I was any more thorough than I was. Those pictures were taken when I posted the ad. The wiring was not connected. I reconnected the wiring (probably not as steadfastly as I could have, as I was in a rush) and tested them after the pictures were taken.

As for the missing heat tape, as I've said numerous times, I can not explain why it was not there. I can only say that I am sure it was there when I tested it, and reiterate that I have gone above and beyond to make sure that it was replaced.

You seem quite sure that I am a liar. I don't really understand why. As someone who generally trusts my gut as well, I can't really fault you, but I think you're being a little more vehement on this board than you really feel because of the overwhelming majority disagreeing with you.

I have no intention of arguing with you, as neither of us will ever be satisfied here, I just don't think it's fair for you to so steadfastly refuse that any part of my story could be true. You seem to be siding with the OP at every turn, and don't really seem to be even admitting to the possibility of an honest mistake, or the fault being with him, which I think is unfair, especially since I know for a fact that some of the things that you suspect are lies are actually true.

 

[cguarino30]

You would have lost that bet.

Comments like this are counterproductive and petty. The point he was trying to make was less about the prediction of the heat tape's location, and more about the OP not allowing for the possibility of a mistake before flying off the handle. The person who bet they would be in my garage was pleading for some sanity and benefit of the doubt in what should have been a reasonable misunderstanding, not trying to predict the future.

There are a few people who are talking about the monetary value of the missing parts that Chris said were there and included. Is that the point?

I understand what you are saying, and you are right. The value of the misrepresented items does not have any bearing on the morality of misrepresenting them.

However, the reason people are bringing it up is that it goes to credibility. The idea that a person would go to all this trouble to con a man out of such a small sum is very unlikely, and the OP should have considered that before accusing me of fraud, at least until I had had an opportunity to make good.

Chris went into a fury when confronted.

You and I have very different definitions of the word "fury". I have remained amazingly calm throughout this ridiculous ordeal

He even initiated another BOI thread exonerating himself and vilifying the OP. It was such a hurricane of accusation that no one has even posted to it.http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=341684

This is not something I was doing underhandedly. I even announced it on this thread already. Let me understand your point here.

You think it's ok for a person to open a BOI as scathing as the one we are currently on, while waiting on the subject of that BOI to make good, after promising he would wait, and then to make the wild accusations (no just about the heat tape, but about the care of my animals, and my general competence as a person)

BUT

You think it's inappropriate for the other person, after waiting a few days to see how the situation is resolved, after getting no satisfaction despite going to extreme lengths to make the other person happy, and having to deal with everything I've had to deal with as a result of this other person to also post a negative BOI on them?

That is simply unfair.

I think you are right, I think Chris also feels if he screams loud enough, the small voice of justice won't be heard.

Screams loud enough? Voice of Justice? What thread have you been reading. At no point in any of this have I tried to shout down anyone. I have taken every opinion, speculation, and insult seriously, and responded to all of them respectfully and calmly.

What Justice do you claim here? I've already replaced the parts on faith regardless of the lack of proof that they were ever missing, and didn't even get an acknowledgement from the OP for my trouble? Would you like blood? should I meet somewhere so that various readers of this thread can shout further insults directly into my face? I've done everything a reasonable person can do and then some.

 

[cguarino30]

Guys, this thread is turning into one side making their points, then the other making their points, then the first side makes the same points all over again, then the second side makes their points all over again. It's getting kind of repetitive, and as I might remind you all, I've already made good. I feel that the issue should really be closed here. The OP himself stopped being a part of this thread days ago. I don't really have that luxury, as it's my reputation that's being attacked, but I would appreciate it if people tried not to make this personal, and made an attempt not to keep making the same points over and over again, as I am starting to get really frustrated here.