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Has anyone dealt with Cameron or Ashley Glucheff

Cameron...

Not that it matters that we wont do business with you right? since you aren't in the business of buying or selling reptiles.
 
Re: assumptions

CGluhcheff said:
since I am a child I could not fully pay $450 so I had to borrow the rest of the money from a partner of mine. My other partners thought the snake looked really cool and that it would be worth the $450. I t seems easier for him to send the money directly to Scott instead of it being mailed twice, correct?
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Well, child, I think you are now acting like a smartass and that pretty well fits the impression I had of you judging by the way your mommy jumped in with the lies right from the get go.

You have in the above quote once again asserted that you had a partner or partners, alluding to the fact that you were a business.

Good going there child. Does mommy know you're playing on the computer again?

How about that necropsy? Your refusal to do that has Scott looking like a GOOD GUY that got taken advantage of by a SPOILED BRAT.

In some neighborhoods if you call the wrong guy partner you are not well pleased with the responce, to say the least.

Grow up and tell the truth, you know, get the necropsy. My guess is that if that snake was harboring some life ending illness and was proven to have it when it was sent to you that Scott would refund your money. He seems like a good guy that got a LOUSY buyer, or a lousy bunch of partners.

Wes Pollock
 
yo "partner" while it is true we are all old fogies.
you are not too convincing DAWG.
I considered California a place where people were down wit da times.

so stash it sonny.
what happened to your gag order your suit gave you?

so, dee, you were staying with cameron and his mom?

ashley's husband, is stationed in iraq, right?

you conveniently dont list your age in your profile. but,
i am guessing that you are an adult, right?

do you often stay with married women when their
hubby's are out defending the country?

i think that i know now why little cameron wasn't
supervized while at the computer...

read into that what you want...

sincerely,

gino 'in da bronx' beniquez
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I guess I was not the only one to "read" the same thing. he could not ask camerons age because cameron was not their either.
I personally do not know too many people who are family friends who would log o to fight some kids battle for them.
The same family friend who knows WAAAY too much about twhat happened to the snaek from day one.......but yet claims it was sold to a kid without any adult supervision. The same family friend who basically states mommy would take a replacement snake


The snake is dead...... no warranty was given.....end of story.
No warranty has to be given.....end of story.
No laws stating he has to provide warranty .....end of story.
The snake was sold to a minor.......but a buch of adults knew about the sale..........end of story.
The snake was sent through fed ex which is not illegal.....end of story.
The receiver who is a "knowledgable caregiver" said the snake was fine.........end of story.

Any other arguements?
 
Scott,
I am so sorry that you mother did not teach you anything about responsibility, honesty, morals or ethics. I guess it is too late in life for you to learn these now. These are the things that I am teaching Cam. I am also teaching him not to let people to take advantage of him and when this happens to fight for what is right.
The issue with the snake is not about the money but rather having you take resposibility for your actions. In the big sceme of my life $350.00 is less than one days wage and will not hurt me financially. I spent more on this having the dogs groomed. It is about pricipal and this is something that you have none of.
This will be my last statement to you or on the discussion board I have nothing to prove here. My day will come when we go to court.
Please remember that most of the people who are posting do not have the entire story. They also are uneducated or undereducated. An example of this is the retired vet. The National Guard makes up 65% of our miliary today. There job is to search houses, patrol the streets, recover vehicles, and to support the other units. Without the 6,500 people in my husbands unit who are currently in Iraq there would be civil unrest. This is also the first time since WW2 that the guard has been called to war. The government is in the process of calling up more units. This case will be decided in court by someone who is educated and a professional.
Please do not post my personal information online. I received a call from someone stating that they were the Army Chaplin and my husband had been killed outside of Bagdad. I called the Red Cross and they contacted him and had him call home. He is fine and safe at this point. This was very upsetting to myself and the children. I have called the phone company and put a block on my phone.
I will have enough respect for you not to post your information.
 
You're right, end of discussion, now for it to be the real end of discussion, become a judge and move to where court will be held. Then I may give a damn about what you have to say. By the way, you guys should, "go grab a spoon....."
 
re read my posts...

1st of all, I am NOT a RETIRED vet...and I too have my M.E.d , so be very careful about comments about "uneducated" people posting....the only uneducated person posting is the one not supervising the activities of her children! I hope you have an IEP for your parenting skills! Get the necropsy, post the results, take it to court, whatever...just do something to prove your son got the shaft or stop complaining about a deal your son had no business getting into!

Ro Hill
 
Lets play teacher

Anyone else that is as uneducated as myself can feel free to fix anything I miss....

Scott,
I am so sorry that you (your) mother did not teach you anything about responsibility, honesty, morals or ethics. I guess it is too late in life for you to learn these now. These are the things that I am teaching Cam. I am also teaching him not to let people to(remove word"to" ) take advantage of him and when this happens to fight for what is right.
The issue with the snake is not about the money, but rather having you take respon sibility for your actions. In the big sch eme of my life $350.00 is less than one day' s wage and will not hurt me financially. I spent more on this having the dogs groomed. It is about pricipal, and this is something that you have none of.
This will be my last statement to you or on the discussion board . I have nothing to prove here. My day will come when we go to court.
Please remember that most of the people who are posting do not have the entire story. They also are uneducated or undereducated. An example of this is the retired vet. The National Guard makes up 65% of our miliary today. There(their) job is to search houses, patrol the streets, recover vehicles, and to support the other units. Without the 6,500 people in my husband' s unit who are currently in Iraq there would be civil unrest. This is also the first time since WW2 that the guard has been called to war. The government is in the process of calling up more units. (new paragraph, or delete) This case will be decided in court by someone who is educated and a professional.
Please do not post my personal information online. I received a call from someone stating that they were the Army Chaplin and my husband had been killed outside of Bagdad(Baghdad) . I called the Red Cross and they contacted him and had him call home. He is fine and safe at this point. This was very upsetting to myself and the children. I have called the phone company and put a block on my phone.
I will have enough respect for you not to post your information.

Oops, My pen is running out of ink. Someone take over.
 
It seems that neither cameron nor his mother read the TOS here either.

They are both posting under the same user name.
 
Dave,

You beat me to it! I was also wondering why there were so many grammatical and spelling errors in a message from a supposed teacher. Something is not adding up, but I guess I'll leave it up to the more "educated" people to figure it out.

Bryan Rupert, R.Ph., M.S. (Pharmacology)
 
corrections

Wow bud, you should be proud of yourself. You can make corrections!! You know how most people write on here? "how r u?" "i dunno" "gotcha" all of those are wrong too partner.
 
Speaking of "partner". You are absolutely right about people taking the word and running with it with their assumptions.
Not all partners are in business together.Partner can mean many things.
I actually know a couple of guys named Cameron and Bruce who also call each other "partner", and I am 100% sure that neither of them would be in a reptile business.
If I remember correctly Bruce even said "I don't know how you can thleep with all thothe thlimy thnakes in your houthe ,Davey"
 
another thing

Most of the people using words like "gotcha,wanna, coulda, i dunno" aren't putting themselves on a pedestal and talking down to everyone here. When you start treating people like they are uneducated, you set yourself up to have your shortcomings pointed out, ma'am.
 
The National Guard makes up 65% of our miliary today. There job is to search houses, patrol the streets, recover vehicles, and to support the other units. .
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Where does one get an MOS to do those things.
Sounds like a full time job.
I could have swor it ws one weekend amonth two weeks a year.
But what do I know. I am undereducated.

Without the 6,500 people in my husbands unit who are currently in Iraq there would be civil unrest
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Well the 6,500 people are not there.
Must be hell over there.
I guess even the cops are to scared to come out.

morals and ethics and honesty?
could have sworn the arguement was about a dead snake.
or he sold to a minor.
or he did not provide a long enough warranty
or california has a warranty
or many other states have warranty laws for reptiles
or it was sent through the mail illegaly.

shoot when did this become about morals ethics and honesty?
definately not when your sond was responding as coast to coast reptiles and saying he had a partner.
Definately not about honesty when you said he sold to a minor without adult consent or supervision and yet we have all these adults that were involved from the very begginning.

Cameron paid for a live snake......he should have gotten a live snake.
But instead some anthony dude got the live snake and cameron got a dead one.
 
This is for Ashley - I really don't think that what your husband is doing has any bearing at all on what's happening here. It's unnecessary info.

I don't know if this question has been answered - maybe it has, or maybe it's just been asked multiple times with no valid response - If you didn't see the snake for 5 days, how do you know that it wasn't this Anthony person that harmed the snake? Do you have proof that would stand up in court? The burden of proof is on you, and I'm not seeing anything that would prove that a sick snake was sent.

If he's an expert keeper, why didn't he notice? Yes, handling them too much after shipping can be stressful, but in moving the snake from the shipping container to the tank there is time to look it over. I can't imagine not doing so when recieving a snake. There's also time when it's sitting in the tank. I would absolutely NOT email someone saying that an animal arrived healthy without knowing that it was. Would you? Does this make sense to you? Why are you not questioning Anthony further??? If you have, then could you please share what the conditions were that the snake was being kept in, i.e. heat source, tank/cage, etc? If anthony exists, is he aware of this thread?

You won't be able to prove anything about the snake being sick through a necropsy now. Once tissue is frozen it's very hard to diagnose much of anything regarding illnesses, but you may be able to see whether there was blunt trauma in the neck and whether that would have prevented it from eating (which would then highly suggest that the injury happened in Anthony's care).

I really don't think that you are going to court, but if you do, I've seen absolutely nothing on here that proves your case. Scott is innocent until proven guilty, and you can't prove when the snake was injured. The issue of your son being underage and not being able to enter into a contract has nothing to do with what happened. He falsely represented himself. End of issue. Judging by what's been presented, if you go to court, you will lose...
end of story.
 
Cameron...in the begginning you never used the word partner escept in an e-mail referring to bruce when you wanted things shipped to you...... You are overemphasizing.


And April
I forgot. You are absolutely right.
Burden of proof is on the accuser.
there is NO WAY tey can prove this snake was sent damaged.
In fact the e-mail stating the snake was fine would totally wipe out whatever proof they might have....but in this case they have none.
 
You know I swear this one conversation is starting to get blow out of purportion. It keeps movng away from the main problem, the fact that there is a dead animal and someone should be held responcible for it.

And as for MR MarcAnthony. You know what you posted about do not buy or sell to Jeff Johnson of Tampa, FL was way out of line, I have no involvment in this issue and are mearly stating my opinons and collection of facts according to this thread. Now if that should make it so were noone should buy or sell with me Im sorry you feel that way. And I really dont appriciate your statement!
 
I personally would buy from Jeff Johnson in a heartbeat. However, after my childish past few posts, I doubt that he would be willing to sell anything to me. I still think he is a good guy.
 
Ritchie Luna,
I am glad that you understand your own limits and about being undereducated. I know that the word "activation" is hard and has a lot of letters in it. Maybe with some help you can look it up in the dictionary. The reason that the National Guard trains one weekend a month and two weeks in the summer is so when they are needed they can be called up to duty. If you ever either read a newspaper or turned on the TV news you would have heard this info. I guess those types of media are over your head. This is not something that they showed on the Simpson or Blind Date.
I also agree with you that this is something for the courts to decide- not ignorant people as yourself. That is why they require judges to have a Law License.
I am pretty unfront and will tell you exactly what it is I am doing. When I say that I am going to do something I will follow through on it. I do not make threats. Threats are for people who do not follow through on their word.
One thing about a forum like this is that you only get bits and pieces and not the entire story. You take the little info that you are given and make an uninformed opinion. Out of the 19 emails that Scott and I have sent each other how many have you seen? I know that they were not all posted- Scott only posted the ones that he felt supported his side of the issue. I hope that in the future you can learn to look at the big picture and not believe everything that someone tells you.
As for the part about what I do and what my husband does I emailed this to Scott. I know that there are a lot of people who pull scams and this was to show that we are both professionals and not some scam artist.
You do know that the local communtiy colleges offer classes. After reviewing your email that might be somehting you might want to look into. They have some very basic English class.
Ashley Gluhceff
 
Jeff, did you happen to see the picture that alvaro posted that was from the reptibid ad? That one wasn't from overhead, but clearly shows no kinks, and was taken just prior to the sale. I don't know if that is good enough for you, but it does show that the animal wasn't being ditched because of a flaw .
 
Davie, I have no problem with you at all, Your a good person. I was basically meaning it as a warnign because you never know who is reading and will read something the wrong way and form an impression of you because something unagreeable. And as you can see it must be happening to me because of my opinions not my professionalism.
 
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