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Inquiry: who is silent noise? lil' peter perez or a wannbe lawyer

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I'm curious to see if silent noise is indeed lil' petey perez of beyond the web. I got this email this morning from silent noise but it's signed by lil' petey.

Has anyone done business with this guy? Does anyone know who he might be? Other than lil' petey himself?

He did inquire about some snakes I had for sale and wanted to know where to send payment. When I gave him my paypal address he never contacted me again until this morning.

Hey, is it breach of contract if you tell someone in writing you'll buy their stuff and then back out? Well, lawboy, there ya go.

I have one further comment at the bottom of this post.

[email protected]
Subject: Notice to Cease and Desist
From: "Silent Noise @ FaunaClassifieds Forums" <[email protected]> Add to Address Book
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:09:44 -0500


This is a message from Silent Noise at FaunaClassifieds Forums (
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/index.php ). The
FaunaClassifieds Forums owners cannot accept any responsibility for the contents of
the email.

To email Silent Noise, you can use this online form:
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/sendmessage.php?do=mailmember&userid=16668

OR, by email:
mailto:[email protected]

This is the message:

NOTICE TO CEASE AND DESIST

Peter A. Perez,
Beyond the Web
703 “A” Street • Suite B • Bakersfield, CA 93304-1958
Telephone (661) 900-2691 • Web www.beyondtheweb.org • E-mail
[email protected]

Re: Misinterpretation of Facts

To Whom It May Concern:
We are counsel to Beyond the Web, the Bakersfield-based educational
program featuring many of the world’s most amazing arachnids. We write
concerning your announced intention of distributing false statements in
the following Internet-based public forums; FaunaClassifieds.com,
SpiderTalk.net and the following allegations from December 2004 through
January 2005.

• supporting racial groups
• illegally possessing/collecting protected wildlife
• conducting illegal activities

We accordingly demand that you cease any plans or efforts to distribute
or publicly state the above-mentioned allegations.

There is no dispute that Peter Perez conducted one (1) illegal
transaction with Adam Quagliata, Canyon State Reptiles in Arizona. Be also
aware that authorities in both the California State Fish & Game and United
States Fish & Wildlife have been notified and addressed of such issue
and can be reached at your discretion. Beyond the Web has demanded that
Mr. Pollock cease distribution of such statements. Any further
statements regarding Beyond the Web’s unlawful activities, racial bias, and/or
other exploitation of such statements will constitute, among other
things, common law liabous/misappropriation, unfair competition, and unjust
enrichment rendering you and anyone engaged with you in such acts
liable for all of the remedies provided by relevant laws. These remedies
include but are not limited to preliminary and permanent injunctive relief
as well as monetary and punitive damages necessary to remedy your
openly willful violation of Beyond the Web’s rights.

We accordingly demand you:

1. cease and desist from the actual or intended distribution,
misinterpretation, public statements or other exploitation of Beyond the Web's
business conduct;
2. identify the names and addresses of any other parties who have
engaged, or otherwise involved, in such conduct through the public use of
discussion forums, i.e. FaunaClassifieds.com and SpiderTalk.net; and
3. provide Beyond the Web with an accounting of all statements issued
through or by other means of such claim that have been distributed via
your website, either physically or digitally, and of all instances of
public forums.

In addition, we demand that you contact us immediately upon receipt of
such notification.
Unless we receive full and immediate compliance with these demands,
Beyond the Web will be forced to consider pursuing any and all available
remedies at law and in equity.
Nothing herein shall be deemed an admission or waiver of any rights or
remedies of Beyond the Web and/or its affiliates, all of which are
hereby expressly reserved.

Sincerely,
Peter Perez, Program Director

Let's see. How does that go again? Something like this I believe...

hrrrmph, hhaarrrrrmmmmmmph, LA LA LA LAAAAAAA, hack hack cough, Mi Mi MIIIIIIIII.... ah there we go....

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHahahahahahahahahahaAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHahahahahahHAHAHAHAHAHAHaHahahahahahHAHAHAHAHAHAHahahHAHAHAHahHAHAHAHAHaHAHAHAHAHahAHAHahahahahaHAHAHAHAHAHahahAHAHaHaHahaha

Oh my gosh, I haven't laughed so hard, well in hourse, lil' petey IS funny, but that was GREAT.
 
We write concerning your announced intention of distributing false statements in the following Internet-based public forums;

So send them a letter saying you won't post any false statements.

There is no dispute that Peter Perez conducted one (1) illegal
transaction with Adam Quagliata, Canyon State Reptiles in Arizona. Be also
aware that authorities in both the California State Fish & Game and United
States Fish & Wildlife have been notified and addressed of such issue
and can be reached at your discretion.

By his definition the statements are not false so you care complying with the letter if you only post the truth (illegal shipping, illegal animals, and he's a runt). :D

If there was an actual lawyer involved you'd have gotten a mailed letter on lawyer letterhead (the profit margins for lawyer mailed letters is 400% higher than an email).
 
Hahahhahhaaaaa.....you have to be kidding...what an idiotic thing to write down...loved the whole "cease and desist" from what...???Telling the truth???That Pete commited illegal acts? that he lies??? That he is in fact, NOT a member of the southwestern herp society??? Oh yeah, petey...I am running scared of your 5'2" frame...No really...

greg
 
wilomn said:
I'm curious to see if silent noise is indeed lil' petey perez of beyond the web. I got this email this morning from silent noise but it's signed by lil' petey.

Has anyone done business with this guy? Does anyone know who he might be? Other than lil' petey himself?

He did inquire about some snakes I had for sale and wanted to know where to send payment. When I gave him my paypal address he never contacted me again until this morning.

Hey, is it breach of contract if you tell someone in writing you'll buy their stuff and then back out? Well, lawboy, there ya go.

I have one further comment at the bottom of this post.

[email protected]
Subject: Notice to Cease and Desist
From: "Silent Noise @ FaunaClassifieds Forums" <[email protected]> Add to Address Book
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:09:44 -0500


This is a message from Silent Noise at FaunaClassifieds Forums (
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/index.php ). The
FaunaClassifieds Forums owners cannot accept any responsibility for the contents of
the email.

To email Silent Noise, you can use this online form:
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/sendmessage.php?do=mailmember&userid=16668

OR, by email:
mailto:[email protected]

This is the message:

NOTICE TO CEASE AND DESIST

Peter A. Perez,
Beyond the Web
703 “A” Street • Suite B • Bakersfield, CA 93304-1958
Telephone (661) 900-2691 • Web www.beyondtheweb.org • E-mail
[email protected]

Re: Misinterpretation of Facts

To Whom It May Concern:
We are counsel to Beyond the Web, the Bakersfield-based educational
program featuring many of the world’s most amazing arachnids. We write
concerning your announced intention of distributing false statements in
the following Internet-based public forums; FaunaClassifieds.com,
SpiderTalk.net and the following allegations from December 2004 through
January 2005.

• supporting racial groups
• illegally possessing/collecting protected wildlife
• conducting illegal activities

We accordingly demand that you cease any plans or efforts to distribute
or publicly state the above-mentioned allegations.

There is no dispute that Peter Perez conducted one (1) illegal
transaction with Adam Quagliata, Canyon State Reptiles in Arizona. Be also
aware that authorities in both the California State Fish & Game and United
States Fish & Wildlife have been notified and addressed of such issue
and can be reached at your discretion. Beyond the Web has demanded that
Mr. Pollock cease distribution of such statements. Any further
statements regarding Beyond the Web’s unlawful activities, racial bias, and/or
other exploitation of such statements will constitute, among other
things, common law liabous/misappropriation, unfair competition, and unjust
enrichment rendering you and anyone engaged with you in such acts
liable for all of the remedies provided by relevant laws. These remedies
include but are not limited to preliminary and permanent injunctive relief
as well as monetary and punitive damages necessary to remedy your
openly willful violation of Beyond the Web’s rights.

We accordingly demand you:

1. cease and desist from the actual or intended distribution,
misinterpretation, public statements or other exploitation of Beyond the Web's
business conduct;
2. identify the names and addresses of any other parties who have
engaged, or otherwise involved, in such conduct through the public use of
discussion forums, i.e. FaunaClassifieds.com and SpiderTalk.net; and
3. provide Beyond the Web with an accounting of all statements issued
through or by other means of such claim that have been distributed via
your website, either physically or digitally, and of all instances of
public forums.

In addition, we demand that you contact us immediately upon receipt of
such notification.
Unless we receive full and immediate compliance with these demands,
Beyond the Web will be forced to consider pursuing any and all available
remedies at law and in equity.
Nothing herein shall be deemed an admission or waiver of any rights or
remedies of Beyond the Web and/or its affiliates, all of which are
hereby expressly reserved.

Sincerely,
Peter Perez, Program Director

Let's see. How does that go again? Something like this I believe...

hrrrmph, hhaarrrrrmmmmmmph, LA LA LA LAAAAAAA, hack hack cough, Mi Mi MIIIIIIIII.... ah there we go....

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHahahahahahahahahahaAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHahahahahahHAHAHAHAHAHAHaHahahahahahHAHAHAHAHAHAHahahHAHAHAHahHAHAHAHAHaHAHAHAHAHahAHAHahahahahaHAHAHAHAHAHahahAHAHaHaHahaha

Oh my gosh, I haven't laughed so hard, well in hourse, lil' petey IS funny, but that was GREAT.
:rofl: Is that Guidance Counsel or Head of the Indian Counsel because this wasn't written by a lawyer ..Lawyers do not say demand =should be Advise theres no such word as liabous unless it is in a new law book I dont have yet it seems somebody is yanking your chain Wes it is funny though :rofl:
 
This letter says it is a missive from counsel, but the only person listed is Peter Perez who graduated high school in 2000 according to his website. There are no recognized law/university combination programs that I am aware of that graduate an attorney in 5 years, most of the require 6. Who are the attorneys here? I believe it is good law practice for letters supposedly sent by attorneys, to be signed by them....
 
Had to race off and see if I had gotten one of those emails...but alas, I guess being on number three or so on the hit list, I am not qualified to get one...bummer. The attorney I was talking to wanted to see this document...and laughed himself silly...said it looks like a form letter badly written up...

Poor ol petey...can't do anything right, it seems...

greg
 
Actually, he's done one of the better jobs of self anihilation(?) than many that have come and gone before him. He's like a chihuahua, yap yap yap but who EVER pays attention?
 
BeyondTheWeb said:
We write
concerning your announced intention of distributing false statements in
the following Internet-based public forums; FaunaClassifieds.com,
SpiderTalk.net and the following allegations from December 2004 through
January 2005.

• supporting racial groups
• illegally possessing/collecting protected wildlife
• conducting illegal activities

We accordingly demand that you cease any plans or efforts to distribute
or publicly state the above-mentioned allegations.

There is no dispute that Peter Perez conducted one (1) illegal
transaction with Adam Quagliata, Canyon State Reptiles in Arizona. Be also
aware that authorities in both the California State Fish & Game and United
States Fish & Wildlife have been notified and addressed of such issue
and can be reached at your discretion.

Ok, first no illegal activities were conducted, then the next paragraph the admittence of a illegal activity he conducted. I know petey boy had to have written this himself. why dont someone contact the shipper to let them know that petey risked the lives of its employees.....

What about posting wes's full adress on your website? isnt there something illegal about listing someones home names and adresses against their persmission?
 
What a weenie!

Definitely no lawyer involved in that mish mash if psuedo-legalese. Hey Wes...I hear Johnnie Cochran hires out pro-bono for cutting edge high profile cases like this....give him a ring.

Every time I think little Petey has dug the hole as deep as possible he manages to scoop out a few more shovel loads. This guy has to be the most self destructive loser this forum has ever seen.
 
Add one more illegal activity to Pete. It is in fact illegal to represent yourself as an attorney when in fact you are not. When will this crime wave stop?...lmao
 
Silent Noise is Pete Perez. The new screen name has been banned and his posts deleted. You shouldn't get anymore email from this name atleast.
 
"Any further
statements regarding Beyond the Web’s unlawful activities, racial bias, and/or
other exploitation of such statements will constitute, among other
things, common law liabous/misappropriation, unfair competition, and unjust
enrichment rendering you and anyone engaged with you in such acts
liable for all of the remedies provided by relevant laws. These remedies
include but are not limited to preliminary and permanent injunctive relief
as well as monetary and punitive damages necessary to remedy your
openly willful violation of Beyond the Web’s rights."

To my knowledge, there is no such thing as common law liabous/misappropriation. Maybe this "lawyer" was referring to defamation of character (which includes libel and slander) and misrepresentation. I do not know.

As far as unjust enrichment, did you receive anything from the statements that has unjustly enriched you? That is a rhetorical question. Probably not, so there cannot be unjust enrichment.

Just my opinion, but a lawyer did not write this.

Ciro A. Spina, III, Esq. (Yes, I am a real lawyer).
 
LOL, this just gets better everytime. i wonder when petey will think it safe to turn his forums back on? or even let guest view the photo gallery either...
 
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Midgit Wrestler/Esquire?
 

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Now, now...re-read. It says "counsel", not "legal counsel". He dodged that bullet of impersonating a lawyer.

It's ridiculous.
 
Geez.
It's funny how these type of people can never just let it go, it was obvious to everybody from the initial inquiry of Wes, that silent noise was, if not actually Pete, a family member or close coconspirator.
Then In a PM to somebody on one of these threads, Pete (as himself) sent them a message saying that the statute that protects these types of websites is inconstitutional, using the same wording/sentence structure as it is written on the FC ban site, which Silent Noise posted a link to on the Spider forum, that was brought into this debacle.

On top of all that, every time Silent Noise was on he was lurking and never posting to all the related threads. This letter to Wes is just more heap upon heap of "odorous large male bovine excrement".
Same exact (mis)usage of big words and wrong sentence structure.

Pete's Counsel said:
:raspberry business conduct;
2. identify the names and addresses of any other parties who have
engaged, or otherwise involved, in such conduct through the public use of
discussion forums, i.e. FaunaClassifieds.com and SpiderTalk.net; and
3. provide Beyond the Web with an accounting of all statements issued
through or by other means of such claim that have been distributed via
your website, either physically or digitally, and of all instances of
public forums

On top of everything else "Pete's Lawyer" :bow01: wants Wes to do all the legwork so all of us on the 10 most wanted list, can be apprehended for our heinous crimes.

Seriously, all the years I've been around, this guys has got to be one of the top- self imploding, self damaging, self incriminating, people I have ever seen. He hasn't just "hurt" himself on FC, he's dragged at least one other unrelated hobby into it, as well as attached his slanderous and libelous statements, directly to his business. Unreal.
 
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