• In case most of you have not noticed, I made changes to the donation amounts as well as the durations for all of the paid membership levels. Things are winding down here, and this seems to be the most prudent way to deal with the "end of life" period of this site.

    Contributor level members - $10 per 30 days
    Sponsors - Eliminated
    Benefactor level members - $25 per 30 days
    Endowment level members - $50 per 30 days

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  • Responding to email notices you receive.
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    In short, DON'T! Email notices are to ONLY alert you of a reply to your private message or your ad on this site. Replying to the email just wastes your time as it goes NOWHERE, and probably pisses off the person you thought you replied to when they think you just ignored them. So instead of complaining to me about your messages not being replied to from this site via email, please READ that email notice that plainly states what you need to do in order to reply to who you are trying to converse with.

Jimmy (e-mail : [email protected]) inquiry

I want to know how to post ALL the emails and the reversed PayPal. I want to post it ALL.

Jimmy
CA

That is really what all this is about. Other people seem to want to get personal and this has nothing to do with my mom. I am here and want this to end. I have not tried to wrong anyone.
 
I want to show the emails. How do I do it?
Jimmy
CA
 
motive

Jimmy, my motive was not to involve your personal life. I am sorry if that is what this has come to. I just made an inquiry to see if anyone has every dealt with you before, that is all, nothing else. I have been truthful, accurate and courteous through this whole thing. As i said, i tried to kill this thread but people kept draging it on. I hardly think that a one line e-mail

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Subj: Re: Message about: 21 baby dragons for sale Sandfire x sandfire reds and San...
Date: 3/10/2003 8:38:16 PM Eastern Standard Time
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Sent from the Internet (Details)




Couldn't ship them today will try again tomorrow.
----- Original Message -----
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 5:13 PM
Subject: Re: Message about: 21 baby dragons for sale Sandfire x sandfire reds and San...


Do you have a tracking number for the shipment of bearded dragons?

Let me know

Allen
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and a phone call that i had to make on Wednesday night to find out what was going on with the shipment is an acceptable amount of communication.

That is all i received from you after Sunday night when we were hashing out the details of the deal via e-mail.

Now, if you are saying there was more contact than that, you are lying.
 
I want to know how to post all the emails.
Jimmy
CA
 
This whole thing started because Allen said there was no communication. But there was.
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Correction. This thing was started by allen....TRUE
Want to know when it really took off? When your mommy came and started posting lies.
They have posted my moms name
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I thought you said it was not your mother's name? Now you are saying it is?
I really think this has gone a bit personal
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Not really..I got the information from the white pages. Public information.
Other people seem to want to get personal and this has nothing to do with my mom.
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On the contrary. She came here and started posting lies......This thread has everything to do with her as well.
I have not tried to wrong anyone
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But your mommy sure has. How do we even know it was your mommy who posted and not you? it seem slies have a habit of coming from your computer. She ws the one posting all day....and yet she asked someone else if they even have a job....
I want to show the emails. How do I do it?
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left click to highlight and right click to copy and or paste would be a good start.
 
You know Allen they are all dated, time stamped and like I said I have several from myself and from you. I will forward them to whoever can post this stuff. I will paste the paypal stuff myself.

Jimmy
CA
 
e-mails

Jimmy, on page 11 of this thread i posted all of the e-mails that i sent and the one that you sent back to me in order with time and date stamps on them. I posted them all. The only ones which i did not post were the ones from Sunday when we were actually making the deal. These are not pertinant to this thread.
As well as listing the converstaion i had with your mother on Wednesday night.
 
This is from PayPal:

_Mar 9, 2003 _ Payment _From _Allen Both _Refunded _ 70.00_ -2.33_ 67.67_
_Mar 9, 2003 _ Payment _From _Allen Both _Reversed _ 630.00_ -18.57_ 611.43

NOTE THE WORDS - reversed

Mar 14, 2003 _ Refund _To _Allen Both _Completed _ -70.00_ 2.33_ -67.67_
Mar 12, 2003 _ Reversal _To _Allen Both _Pending _ -611.43_ 0.00_ -611.43

Note the dates - Allen did the reversal if it was a refund it would say refund as you can see the refunded amount happened today yes this is true. And you should also know that the funds were sent in two seperate paypal tranactions. One for $70 and one for $630.

Jimmy
CA_ _
 
I would like to forward ALL the emails regarding this transaction. Who can post them?
Jimmy
CA
 
The only reason you talked to my mom in the first place is because you called her cell phone number. Which is OK but that is the only reason. She was out and you called.
Jimmy
CA
 
Jimmy, right now the business transaction is not what's hurting your reputation the most. If you want to post the e-mails just copy and paste them onto your post. If your mother's still awake she can show you how to.
Not being prepared to ship and not contacting your customer are indeed poor customer service but normally do not warrant reactions such as you have gotten here. The main issue is the lies. if you condone your mother's lies you are just as guilty as she is.
 
----- Original Message -----
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 9:36 PM
Subject: Re: Message about: 21 baby dragons for sale Sandfire x sandfire reds and San...

It said can you send the money paypal tonight, I thought that meant you wanted me to send it tonight. Do you not want to sell them for that price? Let me know

Allen
 
----- Original Message -----
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 5:42 PM
Subject: Re: Message about: 21 baby dragons for sale Sandfire x sandfire reds and San...

Please get them out tomorrow, I really can use them by Weds.

Thanks

Allen

Another email from Allen - more to come
Jimmy
CA
 
----- Original Message -----
From: kilker <mailto:[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 9:54 PM
Subject: Re: Message about: 21 baby dragons for sale Sandfire x sandfire reds and San...

I will try and get them out on monday not a for sure thing. I have school and have to go and get the heat packs and box them all up.

----- Original Message -----
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 9:59 PM
Subject: Re: Message about: 21 baby dragons for sale Sandfire x sandfire reds and San...

30's at night, If you have 40 hour heat packs it should be fine

Thanks

Allen


Another email. more to come
Jimmy
CA
 
----- Original Message -----
From: kilker <mailto:[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 5:27 PM
Subject: Re: Message about: 21 baby dragons for sale Sandfire x sandfire reds and San...

Couldn't ship them today will try again tomorrow.
----- Original Message -----
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 5:13 PM
Subject: Re: Message about: 21 baby dragons for sale Sandfire x sandfire reds and San...

Do you have a tracking number for the shipment of bearded dragons?

Let me know

Allen



Another email.
Jimmy
CA
 
----- Original Message -----
From: kilker <mailto:[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 8:27 PM
Subject: Re: Message about: 21 baby dragons for sale Sandfire x sandfire reds and San...

Good evening,

thanks for the email... I will have a tracking number for you tomorrow and you will receive all on Friday. I need to get the 72 hour heating pads. I will have them tomorrow and ship.

Any questions, please call (707) xxx-xxxx.

Thanks again.

Sorry for the delay but I would like to have a live safe delivery.


----- Original Message -----
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 8:23 PM
Subject: Re: Message about: 21 baby dragons for sale Sandfire x sandfire reds and San...

What is going on with the dragons? Please respond

Allen


Another email.

Jimmy
CA
 
I have more. Please look at the time and dates I hope I pasted them correctly but I can forward them if I did it wrong.

Jimmy
CA

I have more
 
You know you are really not getting it.
I did NOT touch his money it sat in my PayPal account. I cannot refund the money because the money was reversed. Therefore it is NOT in my PayPal account. This was done on the 12th. So I don't understand what you don't get. QUOTE]
Jimmy- what I am getting at is that is should not have gotten to the point where the charge was disputed. Yes, Allen will get his money back, but it will take at least a few days. All in all, this is a situation that could have ben easily avoided.
It seems like what ever I say makes no difference anyway so be it.
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On the contrary, it does make a difference. Simplay taking responsibility for your own actions/inactions from the onset would have made a world of difference. Not simply excusing your mother's lies would have gone a long way as well.
This whole thing started because Allen said there was no communication. But there was.
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Quite the opposite. This turned out the way it did because your mother chose to lie. Had that not happened, and you simply replied with the facts of the matter, this thread would most likely be only two pages long at most.
You know Allen this has gone way overboard. This is really not nice and bad. They have posted my moms name, address and phone number. I really think this has gone a bit personal and I don't see anyone elses lives displayed or being dragged out like this.
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1) No confidential information has been posted. It is all a matter of public record.
2) No one else seems to have lied about their identity.
I would like to forward ALL the emails regarding this transaction. Who can post them?
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To post emails, you're going to have to copy & paste the text, as Ritchie has explained.

Speaking of Ritchie, I've asked him to ease up a bit and not be so tenacious right now. The reply from wilomn is also being dealt with accordingly.

That being said, I will reitterate that it would behoove you to edit your sig line to include your full name. This thread would appear to be even odder than it already is if your replies are deleted because they did not contain your full name.
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I have dealt with my mom myself and I don't feel that is YOUR business. I have posted some of the emails as well. READ

Jimmy Kilker
CA
 
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