Finally!!!!!
I was able to get in, did a little clean up on my computer I should really get a new one!! Anyway I want to answer any questions you guys have so please feel free to ask me….. I have posted the post I have wanted to post on Fauna for a while now but was never able to sign in, I sent it to Dennis and he posted it for me but I wanted to make sure it was also posted by me so here is the situation again if you haven’t already seen it:
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Okay everyone, this is a little weird for me since I am new to this you guys kinda freak me out. I am going to take my story to the beginning, I think this is a big misunderstanding going on here and I will try to clear it all up for everyone to get the story strait.
Okay here is goes.................................
I was interested in getting something I could purchase and resell on ReptiBid or Kingsnake. I couldn’t figure out what I wanted, but then I came across an ad on Reptibid that was selling het for albino ball pythons the name of the seller was Raymond Harrison from Harrisons Collection 2005. I took a look at his feedback and there was nothing negative against him or his business I also looked on fauna but the person who made the inquirery spelled his name wrong ramond harrison with out the Y he aslo had good feedback there. So I emailed him in curiosity maybe he could sell his whole clutches for a really good deal and then I could resell them......I got a reply back within two or three days he emailed me and said that would work great he asked me for my phone number I sent it to him. And we begin to discus what he had available and good “wholesale” prices for everything, once we came to an agreement we discussed how we would be able to get them shipped or I could come pick them up, I wanted to come pick them up myself because I wanted to see his original morph parents “I do not know much about breeding ball pythons myself, all I really know is the basic information on Care, but I did read the Ball Python Manual by Tracy Barker.”
When we figured everything out I decided to meet him down in Florida where he would bring his Albino, Pied, and Clown parents with the females he bred them to. When I arrived to see them he was already there, as I recall he was driving a white SUV with all the ball pythons in the back in plastic heating type containers. Nothing looked disturbed even after the long trip. He brought a scale with him and weighed everything to show me everything was the proper weight. Everything looked really good and he was a very kind man, I met his wife a couple minutes later after she came out of the shopping center.
After they loaded everything into my van I paid for them the discussed amount and then he gave me all the paperwork and documentation that is included with the hets. He also gave me a original receipt explaining that I purchased all hets from him listing there numbers then he signed it, his wife signed it and so did I.
I do not believe I was ripped off at all, and there is nothing against Raymond or his Business, I have all documentation from the ball pythons my receipt are also included with the Hets.
Now I don’t think everyone understands the situation with the Het for pied females. Now I will try to explain it again to everyone but it seems like this is the biggest misunderstanding.
Raymond shipped the three het for pied females to a customer who purchased from him a 1.2 regular ball pythons. The women who purchased the three het for pied females got a 1.2 in regulars. (he put the wrong label on the boxes after he packed them up.) When he got the women who purchased the 3 het pied females emailing him and saying she received a 1.2 with no paperwork he new automatically thought he most of put the wrong label on the wrong box since those were the only boxes he shipped that day. He automatically contacted the guy who got the 3 het for pied females instead of the 1.2 in regulars and told him that he shipped the wrong order the guy did not email him to tell him that he received the wrong order and he did not get the three females back for about a week or two so he figured the guy took his three females and swopped them with three regular females of the same size, he told me he does not want to trust it and sell them as 100% if they aren’t 100% and just some normal females. So he emailed me and told me the story and asked if I would purchase them from him as 50% since he is not positive but there is a 50/50 chance these are his females. So I paid the price 50% would cost for all three females.
So that is why I am selling them as 50% not because I got ripped off because I do not believe I got ripped off, I am selling them as 50% because Raymond told me that is how he wants them to be sold since there is a 50/50 chance plus if they do prove out to be pied you paid a very small amount for them.
I was not sure how I was going to sell them, but if you think it is best for me to sell them as regulars I guess I could do that but I would not make back the price I paid for them.
I never listed the three females as real 100% het for pied and I am not listing them as normals now ether I do not even have them on right now. I have not had them listed because I do not know how I am going to sell them yet.
Now for the package deal I purchased a lot of Ball Pythons from Raymond and Sarah Harrison that is why I have been listing a lot at a time like this if that is not a good idea then I could also list them separately. I was just trying to add to the value by putting in the Free male and Gravid female ball pythons, now someone asked why wouldn’t I just keep the Gravid female ball because I do not have any knowledge on breeding ball python and how to hatch out there eggs I have had Lizards breed and the eggs got infested with parasites and died. After that experience I did not want to do that again.
The ball pythons feel really neat when they are gravid though maybe I will keep one and try to hatch the eggs out myself but I would need lots of help. I do not think these bred at my place I think I purchased them from Raymond gravid but they didn’t look like they were gravid when I first got them. I just started to feel the eggs, maybe there is a male in the same cage with all the females, that would be funny!
Anyway I hope this clears this misunderstanding all up.
Oh and to the person who says I changed my name I have never changed my name it has always been Katie Richardson and I just started this business and I have never had a reptile business in the past.
Happy Easter,
Katie Richardson
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Now to begin with the questions already asked I will quote the question and put my answer under them:
Ok Katie, Please explain this whole deal to us. Where, and when did you get the the Ball Pythons?
Orlando Premium Outlets
5-6 miles from the Days inn off of Interstate 4
Were there any problems with the paperwork? Did you have any reservations about the paperwork? Did you make any inquiries to 3rd parties about the paperwork?
Absolutely NO problem with the paperwork, He had all the paperwork done I assume when we discussed it on the phone he read of the numbers I could purchase. All the paperwork came directly from him they weren’t sold then sold again just strait to me. Except the three female het for pieds and I think you guys get the story there. I will consider any offers on those three females, don’t know what other way to sell them.
How did you come to post an almost identical group of Ball Pythons later in the same month on Reptibid
Because that is what I had purchased and it was not identical the key word here is ALMOST, I did not realize it was the same that is just what I had at the time.
Did Steve49 actually get the first group?
Yes he was my first customer, again I am a true beginner at this.
Why would you drive all the way to Orlando and not see the facilites these snakes were kept in? Why meet in a shopping center? Wheren't you at all interested in hwo these animals were kept?
I drove to that shopping mall I guess that is where I discussed I would meet him. He came with all the snakes and they looked well kept they were in aspen shavings and they all looked healthy he weighed the adult breeders and showed me the correct weights, no mites, no ticks or any other parasites. Yes I was interested in how they were kept so I told him to take them all with him there health will obviously reflect on the way they look. And they looked great! If they didn’t I would not have purchased from him.
Did you see all the visible morph aprents of these snakes you are selling? The Albino, the Pied and The Clown? Did they all appear to be in good shape, breedable size, etc?
Yes I saw them all the pied, clown, and albino yes again he weighed them and showed me all the correct weights they should be to be breeders they were absolutely beautiful.
Can you share a copy of the paperwork that came with these snakes (there appears to be questions about his paperwork also)?
I would like to do that but is it really safe to post it on this forum cant people duplicate it and use it? If you would like a copy and will not post it on fauna I can send you one but I do not want to put it at jeopardy.
Do the size of the snakes match up with the dates on the paperwork (this seems to be an issue with people that have bought from him)?
Yes they all match.
Was he able to provide you with hatch dates, clutch sizes, etc.?
Yes and it is also on the paperwork he explained a lot of breeding information to me also.
Did you check any references? Was he able to provide you with any that could be verified?
Well when I looked him up on Fauna he looked like he already had a few references and also everyone who bought on ReptiBid were happy with there order so I took that as all the references.
Did he give you any kind of guarantee on the animals?
Yes the guarantee stands and all hets are backed by him.
If Harrison can't provide proof that he's not selling fake snakes, will you still continue to try and sell them, knowing they might not be true hets?
I can not give you a direct answer on that one because with the documents and guarantees I received these are hets. I saw the visual morphs they are all backed by Raymond and Sarah Harrison, and I don’t need any more proof then what I got.
Any more questions feel free would like to do my best for everyone.
I have emailed Raymond Harrison and hope to get a response back from him, I do not think he thinks he has to back himself because everything is backed by him. I do have his phone number but would like to get his permission first before I go and post it. Also he does not answer his emails if he does not have the animals available he already told everyone he does not have any more hets available well I guess that is what I heard.
Well hope this helps, I still stand with Raymond Harrison and believe he is real. You can also email me directly at :
[email protected]
Thanks Again guys,
Katie Richardson
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