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Info Kelly Gottberg/KY Reptiles... I'd like your opinion?

Oh, one more thing, Eddie. Your not so subtle reference to a previous mudslinging episode with Dan is totally inappropriate...keep it up and you'll find yourself unable to participate. That is your last warning on that matter.
 
Brandy Pecanic said:
We got drug through the mud for noticing this 3-4 days after purchase. This is an INFO THREAD, take what you want.
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I understand that it's an info thread but the mud slinging is just as bad or as worse as a bad guy thread.
 
JColt said:
I understand that it's an info thread but the mud slinging is just as bad or as worse as a bad guy thread.
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Are you serious Joe? We are realizing it needs to be in red as it progresses? Please tell me you have read the whole thread... Because I am adding you to a list bud.
 
Since this is an information thread I guess I can weigh in on it.(I have read the entire thread) I really believe that BOI threads like this give little credit to the reptile hobby. Whether knowingly or unknowingly the parties involved have both behaved in unprofessional manners. Childish really. If our hobby is to be taken seriously, we cannot behave in the manner some have in this thread. It is rather sad. I am not really into Ball Pythons, but rest assured if I was, I would not be doing business with anyone who is at the heart of this thread. I hope there is some sort of middle ground that can be reached by the parties involved, so that at least there needn't be anymore respect loss.
 
joshtrout said:
Since this is an information thread I guess I can weigh in on it.(I have read the entire thread) I really believe that BOI threads like this give little credit to the reptile hobby. Whether knowingly or unknowingly the parties involved have both behaved in unprofessional manners. Childish really. If our hobby is to be taken seriously, we cannot behave in the manner some have in this thread. It is rather sad. I am not really into Ball Pythons, but rest assured if I was, I would not be doing business with anyone who is at the heart of this thread. I hope there is some sort of middle ground that can be reached by the parties involved, so that at least there needn't be anymore respect loss.
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To each his own. I always say BP and Rosy breeders are in a league of their own. lol. :ack2:

Brandy Pecanic said:
Kelly, seriously, why does this snake weigh barely 200 grams at a year old? That is not right. And, we would like your replies posted as well. Thank you!
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Brandy Pecanic said:
To the text messages, your replies, please, we erased them, you got them! Please. Thanks.
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Please answer some of Brandy's questions, I want to know more than her Kelly. Christian told me in a message that this snake was born on 6-18-2011? I've never seen anything like that, EVER! What are you doing to your animals? :angry:
 
DO you know how long it was in "someone else's possession"? (where it got the scars on its back)
 
Tom Pecanic said:
Are you serious Joe? We are realizing it needs to be in red as it progresses? Please tell me you have read the whole thread... Because I am adding you to a list bud.
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List huh? Tom just what would that list be and why? Because I have respectively disagreed? Like I said earlier, I have no dog in this fight. I do not know either of you or the others at all.

I could see if you received the animal sight unseen
I could see if you were not offered a replacement or money back.

Would be nice to see what the Vet had to say when you took animal in.

I really see this as a group of people who had a falling out and every ones trying to get last word in.

Just because I disagree does not mean I think you are a bad person but I suppose if you want me on this "list" then I guess I'll be on Tom's List.
 
JColt said:
List huh? Tom just what would that list be and why? Because I have respectively disagreed? Like I said earlier, I have no dog in this fight. I do not know either of you or the others at all.

I could see if you received the animal sight unseen
I could see if you were not offered a replacement or money back.

Would be nice to see what the Vet had to say when you took animal in.

I really see this as a group of people who had a falling out and every ones trying to get last word in.

Just because I disagree does not mean I think you are a bad person but I suppose if you want me on this "list" then I guess I'll be on Tom's List.
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There is no way you have read this whole thread, I qualify myself as a Vet Joe after all these years? Just me though, I'm just a little guy, and I KNOW that. And the list is this: the DNBFOSTL, and yes, you have made it, sorry about that. Your posts warranted that move, and you MUST have an animal from Kelly and think she is your best friend? That is just my best guess.. No hard feelings I hope. :rolleyes:

DaveyFig said:
DO you know how long it was in "someone else's possession"? (where it got the scars on its back)
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I don't Dave, and it's got to be a lie anyways..
 
I guess I won't get these answers.. All I do know is this, the snake is going to be just fine, for those that care for the only victim in this mess, THE GRANITE FEMALE BP.. I will get a pic up of her this afternoon I hope so all can see. She is marvelous, and we adore her! We've named her Kelly! :beer:
 
I think Tom had the right intentions here as an INFO thread. The questions and concerns were definitely warranted, this snake's history before Tom seems muffled at best. Coming clean and leaving all personal stuff aside would be the best avenue here. I do have one question Tom, whats the DNBFOSTL? just curious? gotta love acronyms..
 
Tom Pecanic said:
There is no way you have read this whole thread, I qualify myself as a Vet Joe after all these years? Just me though, I'm just a little guy, and I KNOW that. And the list is this: the DNBFOSTL, and yes, you have made it, sorry about that. Your posts warranted that move, and you MUST have an animal from Kelly and think she is your best friend? That is just my best guess.. No hard feelings I hope. :rolleyes:



I don't Dave, and it's got to be a lie anyways..
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Don't know her any better than I know you. I only buy in person or trusted breeders and not balls at so so please forgive me if my feelings are not hurt. Apparently you have a hard time dealing with rejection. I have no foolish list nor do I have time for your immature eye rolls. Have a good day Tom
 
JColt said:
Don't know her any better than I know you. I only buy in person or trusted breeders and not balls at so so please forgive me if my feelings are not hurt. Apparently you have a hard time dealing with rejection. I have no foolish list nor do I have time for your immature eye rolls. Have a good day Tom
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Joe, no offense dude.. I'm pretty keen on details, and I missed these ailments! I hope you learn to flip animals upside down and thread your thumb down the top and bottom side's.. Do a 'feek' exam right in front of somebody in a parking lot. I'm sorry you are above me in some way, and I didn't recognize it right away? I'm in my place..... :thumbsup:
 
Tom, I'm just evaluating what I've read. I'm not picking on you really. My thoughts are based on that this thread probably wouldn't have started had there not been the face book drama.

Yes she sold you a not perfect specimen but I see proof that she tried to make things right. Please tell me what I'm missing.

I see she offered to trade or buy back.
She said she didn't notice jaw but neither did you until shed
You said you took to vet then said after all these years you feel like a vet.

Basically all I have said is you are partially to blame on this deal. I noticed it started out as an info thing then kind of got ugly.

If you had said Kelly tried to sell me junk and misinterpreted the animal and I declined to buy it after checking it out I could understand.

If you said Kelly told me to pound salt, the deal is done, I could understand.

So I'm not saying either side is right or wrong but it looks like she tried to do right thing and you seemed to accept it. So don't take it personal, I'm just stating how it looks to me.

I myself would have walked away just seeing the old bite marks but that's me.

Now, even though I don't collect balls, put me back on list ;)
 
JColt said:
Tom, I'm just evaluating what I've read. I'm not picking on you really. My thoughts are based on that this thread probably wouldn't have started had there not been the face book drama.

Yes she sold you a not perfect specimen but I see proof that she tried to make things right. Please tell me what I'm missing.

I see she offered to trade or buy back.
She said she didn't notice jaw but neither did you until shed
You said you took to vet then said after all these years you feel like a vet.

Basically all I have said is you are partially to blame on this deal. I noticed it started out as an info thing then kind of got ugly.

If you had said Kelly tried to sell me junk and misinterpreted the animal and I declined to buy it after checking it out I could understand.

If you said Kelly told me to pound salt, the deal is done, I could understand.

So I'm not saying either side is right or wrong but it looks like she tried to do right thing and you seemed to accept it. So don't take it personal, I'm just stating how it looks to me.

I myself would have walked away just seeing the old bite marks but that's me.

Now, even though I don't collect balls, put me back on list ;)
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Hey Joe, least we are still talking here, right. I'll see your post, and raise you one? How do you know she offered to make it right Chief? Cuz guess what, she did not! Never once! Why don't you think I'm getting a post from her after we asked that THEY post her replies... Wait for it, wait for it..... I see you're kinda new Joe, sit back, READ, and watch! There is a lot to learn in these two threads!
 
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