Damn! I go fishing for a day and look at all I missed in this thread.
Hopefully this will be short, because I got sunburnt and want to soak in a tub of cool water to draw off all that heat my skin is generating.
I read this entire thread from beginning to end, even the posts I have previously read. The very first thing I noticed that caught my eye was this post from Adam Block.
Bob Clarks collection of mites that have a snake infestation.
That was right out of the blue. What an amazing coincidence that Bob Clark evidently has a large involvement in this thread, and Adam invoked his name on the very first page. Actually, when I saw his Bob Clark's first message I thought certainly he had posted to refute Adam's statement. Which would have been surprising in itself.
Now somewhere along the line, Adam Block flip flopped on which side he was on. Strange, don't you think?
Was this whole thread intended to be a setup? If so, who is the target?
On to other things.
Later on (sorry but this might not be in chronological order), kjun posted this quote.
As of yet, I see suspicion but no proof that the story about Bob and the account refusal are even related. Maybe they are - for a valid reason, I might ad - but just remember that there is NO PROOF that the two incidents are or aren't connected.
What a contrast in opposite ends of logic that statement is! There is no proof of a connection between Bob Clark's threat against Savannah and the subsequent account cancellation she got, yet there was apparently sufficient cause (where's the proof here?) for Jeffie to block Savannah from advertising her animals.
From: "Bob Clark" | Add to Address Book
To: "Savannah"
Subject: morphs webpagege
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 09:42:07 -0500
Savannah,
Still waiting for you call. Unless I hear from you today I will expose you and Jeff on Kingsnake. Bob Clark
From: "Bob Clark" | Add to Address Book
To: "Savannah"
Subject: Re: morphs webpagege
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 09:34:31 -0500
Savannah,
If you post an ad to sell anything I will expose your connection to Miller. I think this will not be good for your business. Bob Clark
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 14:53:00 -0500
From: "Jeff Barringer"
To:
Subject: Re: 16512 - Secure Online Credit Card Transaction
We are sorry but we will be unable to supply advertising services
to your business.
OK, it is circumstantial, but heck, highly suspicious to see those three statements lined up like they are above. I assume that Savannah did not contact Bob Clark, so did he make good on his threat to expose Savannah on kingsnake? If he did make good on his threat, how did he do that? Isn't it against kingsnake.coms TOS to post negative info about someone in the forums? So what exactly did he do? Talk to Jeffie? Well that certainly seems to be the most logical thing to assume. And if we assume this is the case, what is the only thing Jeffie could have done that would "not be good for your business"?
Fits like a hand in a glove to me, people.
So, not only do we have a situation where Jeffie will ban people that tread on his fragile megalomania ego, that dare to argue with him, or fail to obey his demands about what they do on their own websites, but the evidence in this thread presents a pretty convincing picture that Jeffie will also ban people at the request of those people that may be considered as FOJs (friends of Jeffie).
Surely Bob Clark had no firm evidence in hand when he contacted Jeffie. Otherwise he would have been seeking legal recourse to seize property he felt was owned by Jeff Miller. So acting basically on a hunch or perhaps a gut feeling, Bob Clark went to Jeff Barringer and from all angles of view I have tried, convinced Jeffie to ban the account of an 18 year old girl trying to run a business competing in some fashion with Bob Clark.
Is any of this sinking in yet?
Savannah - if you have not done so, get an attorney. A good one that will be willing to take this case on a contingency basis, if possible. If not, get one anyway. There could be a lot of money in it for him/her when the fee is collected. Obviously both Bob Clark and Jeff Barringer/kingsnake.com have conspired to deprive you of your livelihood based on nothing more than suppositions, conclusion jumping, and perhaps competitive jealousy. The judge you spoke with is already familiar with this situation, so see if an injunction can be filed against kingsnake.com for Jeffies actions in this affair. Personally, I would go for the throat(s) myself. Sell whatever you need to in order to scrape up money for a damned good attorney, because after the courts are finished with this, you will have lots of money to buy everything back, and then some.
Ouch..... I'm heading off for that cool bath....