Bad Guy Ramon Acosta (Rayreptile)

[joshjtd]

How ride of you I will not stoop down to your childish level, my quarrel is not with you anyways. Your pretty pathetic now. I know what you can go suck though and it ain't no egg.

Please do not talk to her this way. Your issue is with me. No need to take after other folks like that.

 

[Lucille]

I will gladly change the claim down to $125 but as you stated, it sounds as though you have no intention on following through.

In your above post, I dont see any terms.

I have already called the card issuing bank and can file that claim when needed. I am waiting to do that as I am still holding out hope that Ramon will see reason.

Josh, Ramon is just dancing around. Why not file today at 3PM unless you have the agreed funds in your account by then.

 

[FireStorm]

cutting corners to save a buck or two at the expense of the safety of the animals.

What a winner!

Shame shame shame on the seller in this entire situation...everything from your emails to your customer, to your response here, to your STUPID excuses for your idiotic methods...proves that you don't have a clue what you are doing, and have no regard what so ever for the health or safety of your animals.

Now that I'm more awake...and look at that box again....that is just appalling to ship off two sub adult females in...I don't even want to try and picture you stuffing them in there in the first place.

You lay blame on your scale for YOUR huge mistake on the weights...instead of being humbled by YOUR mistake and correcting it with your customer. So what if the OP mis-sexed them on his first attempt...it happens, even to people who are sexing pros...he did let you know of his own error once it was confirmed to him they were female.

I also wonder just how big that smaller female was LAST year when she supposedly dropped eggs....being 800 grams...9 months into THIS year...suuure makes me wonder...

I would be skeptical about the 800g female being proven. It's hard to say for sure just from looking at pictures, but she doesn't really look like she has the girth that I would expect from a proven 8 egg layer that laid last year (she should have put her weight back on by now).

 

[joshjtd]

Josh, Ramon is just dancing around. Why not file today at 3PM unless you have the agreed funds in your account by then.

I will do that. I just don't want to cause that much trouble for someone if I can avoid it.

Ramon, please see reason. I will give you until 3pm my time today to issue a partial refund of $125. It is currently 10:50am my time. If the refund is not issued, I will proceed with the credit card dispute. Please do the right thing.

 

[joshjtd]

I would be skeptical about the 800g female being proven. It's hard to say for sure just from looking at pictures, but she doesn't really look like she has the girth that I would expect from a proven 8 egg layer that laid last year (she should have put her weight back on by now).

I can tell you by her size that there was no way she laid 8 eggs last year. I have a male bumblebee that is about 1200 grams and he dwarfs her. She is under three feet long.

The other gal has more size than the smaller one but from what I have read a 1500 gram gal would usually produce a smaller clutch.

 

[Focal]

I think $125 is reasonable and a good way to end this on good terms. Do the right thing Ramon.

 

[Fangthane]

On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Ramon Acosta <[email protected]> wrote:


No I will not as you voided and chance of a deal by publicly putting it on fauna.

clearly voided terms as you did put this on fauna, now another void since you trying to more than what in my terms was said
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I will do that. I just don't want to cause that much trouble for someone if I can avoid it.

Ramon, please see reason. I will give you until 3pm my time today to issue a partial refund of $125. It is currently 10:50am my time. If the refund is not issued, I will proceed with the credit card dispute. Please do the right thing.

It appears that Mr. Acosta is a graduate of "Varnyard's Academy of Business Ethics". If you make his shady activities pubilcly known, you're suddenly in violation of some imaginary contract. He apparently had no qualms about shafting you, so I believe you can retaliate with a clear conscience. If he's not willing or able to fix his own mistake, you do what you have to do, to fix it for him.

 

[EdwardK]

USPS does and has I received a shipment of Cornsnakes back in 09 after that bad experience I never used them again, im not aware of any change of policy since then because I avoid using them.

I'm calling BS on the change of policy excuse you used....
As was demonstrated above, they do not ship snakes and in fact, they have had that policy since before 1975... If you have an old copy of The Field Guide to Reptiles and Amphibians of Eastern and Central North America by Conant (Peterson Field Guide series), it is even discussed as being illegal in paragraphs on shipping reptiles and amphibians.... My old copy of the guide is from 1975 and mentions it right in there which gives us the time line of at least since 1975...

By offering to ship snakes via the postal service you could have been in violation of postal regulations as well as the Lacey Act... Failing to properly mark the box with at least live harmless wildlife, is a marking offense under the Lacey Act....

Some comments

Ed

 

[joshjtd]

Trying to communicate with Ramon via email. He has escalated the paypal dispute. I am still holding off until 3pm today before filing with the bank.

 

[joshjtd]

Ramon Acosta



11:28 AM (1 hour ago)














to me











Your right my quarrel is with you, but she clearly disrespected me all because you went public with it she had no right in addressing me that way so I have to defend myself no matter what or who. I will agree to that refund if you delete your posting and publicly apologies for the little misunderstanding and creating that post. I was hoping to keep it private but you seem to get enjoyment out of this for what reason.

 

[joshjtd]

12:33 PM (13 minutes ago)














to Ramon











I also see that you escalated the Paypal claim? I was hoping we wouldn't have to go that route. You still have the chance to fix this. Please take this before it is to late.



If I file the dispute charges on my card, this is going to go in a much different direction. The financial institutions involved will collect their money and possibly file charges against you for this. I do not want that to happen. I just want this situation made right so we can both put this behind us.












On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Ramon Acosta <[email protected]> wrote:

Its called sleeping after my phone died ever tryed it.




On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 2:27 PM, Josh Davis <[email protected]> wrote:


Ramon,



I asked you last night after your last comment if you were done trying to work this out.








Ramon Acosta



9:09 PM (15 hours ago)














to me












I issues several apologies already not another more will be issued.



You did't respond. What was I suppose to think?





On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Ramon Acosta <[email protected]> wrote:


Your right my quarrel is with you, but she clearly disrespected me all because you went public with it she had no right in addressing me that way so I have to defend myself no matter what or who. I will agree to that refund if you delete your posting and publicly apologies for the little misunderstanding and creating that post. I was hoping to keep it private but you seem to get enjoyment out of this for what reason.



On Sep 14, 2012 11:50 AM, "Ramon Acosta" <[email protected]> wrote:


No I will not as you voided and chance of a deal by publicly putting it on fauna. As you stated yourself it could of been resolve but you put it up after saying you wasn't until we came to an agreement. This will not affect me as much as you think, should of took the deal with no hesitation. Even on Fauna one said there was no need for more apologies being I already done so, you violated our terms by publicly putting it on when you wasn't until terms was reach.

On Sep 14, 2012 11:07 AM, "Josh Davis" <[email protected]> wrote:


Since you have not issued the partial refund and have publicly stated that you have no intention of doing so, I have filed a claim with Paypal.



I am willing to accept the partial refund as stated. I also ask that you please look at the bigger picture here. You are going down a path that many other before you have gone. It never ends well. Resolve this issue, learn from it, and do not make this mistake in the future.



Fighting this is only going to make it worse and hurt your opportunities to sell on Fauna. Please do the right thing.



On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 11:03 PM, Josh Davis <[email protected]> wrote:

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1512994#post1512994



Please address




On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 9:11 PM, Josh Davis <[email protected]> wrote:


Ok so by your last response I am assuming you are no longer interested in working this out?



On Sep 13, 2012 9:09 PM, "Ramon Acosta" <[email protected]> wrote:


I issues several apologies already not another more will be issued.

On Sep 13, 2012 11:05 PM, "Josh Davis" <[email protected]> wrote:


Here is the ad. No where did it state that was FL shipping price. You did say local preferred. I will accept the partial refund as long as it comes with an apology

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "Josh Davis" <[email protected]>
Date: Sep 11, 2012 9:26 AM
Subject:
To: "Josh Davis" <[email protected]>

Balls Available:
Females
Granite het albino 1200 grams visual markers bred from a friend $800shipped
Congo 600 grams Eugene stock $600 shipped
2 proven normals 1600 & 2200grams Bay Area Rept. $125 shipped
Sub adult 800 $100 shipped

Males
Amir Spider reduced pattern high white & gold brother is a super 2400 grams no Nero $180 shipped
Amir Mojave tons of blush proven 1800 grams $250 shipped
Pastel Yellowbelly male Ben Sigel 400 grams 350 shipped
Amir Lesser 300 grams $200 shipped

Packages and discounts available need to move fast local preferred but will ship, payments through Paypal, Square Up, Money Order or CASH

Contact direct to
[email protected]
407 470 0352

Pic 1 granite het albino
Pic 2 Congo
Pic 3 spider
Pic 4 Mojave

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Josh Davis






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Urban Exoticz
Ramon J. Acosta, Jr.

347.459.5036

"No! Snakes are no problem. I'd go to any country, anywhere, any snake, not a problem." - Steve Irwin




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Josh Davis [email protected]



12:37 PM (9 minutes ago)














to Ramon










You have to see that this situation is no good. There are a dozen people currently viewing this thread and it has had 730 views so far. These are potential customers or collagues that are seeing this. For both of us I ask that you send the refund. I will gladly post that the issue was resolved if this is done before 3pm.










On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 12:33 PM, Josh Davis <[email protected]> wrote:


I also see that you escalated the Paypal claim? I was hoping we wouldn't have to go that route. You still have the chance to fix this. Please take this before it is to late.



If I file the dispute charges on my card, this is going to go in a much different direction. The financial institutions involved will collect their money and possibly file charges against you for this. I do not want that to happen. I just want this situation made right so we can both put this behind us.





On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Ramon Acosta <[email protected]> wrote:

Its called sleeping after my phone died ever tryed it.




On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 2:27 PM, Josh Davis <[email protected]> wrote:


Ramon,



I asked you last night after your last comment if you were done trying to work this out.








Ramon Acosta



9:09 PM (15 hours ago)














to me












I issues several apologies already not another more will be issued.



You did't respond. What was I suppose to think?





On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Ramon Acosta <[email protected]> wrote:


Your right my quarrel is with you, but she clearly disrespected me all because you went public with it she had no right in addressing me that way so I have to defend myself no matter what or who. I will agree to that refund if you delete your posting and publicly apologies for the little misunderstanding and creating that post. I was hoping to keep it private but you seem to get enjoyment out of this for what reason.



On Sep 14, 2012 11:50 AM, "Ramon Acosta" <[email protected]> wrote:


No I will not as you voided and chance of a deal by publicly putting it on fauna. As you stated yourself it could of been resolve but you put it up after saying you wasn't until we came to an agreement. This will not affect me as much as you think, should of took the deal with no hesitation. Even on Fauna one said there was no need for more apologies being I already done so, you violated our terms by publicly putting it on when you wasn't until terms was reach.

On Sep 14, 2012 11:07 AM, "Josh Davis" <[email protected]> wrote:


Since you have not issued the partial refund and have publicly stated that you have no intention of doing so, I have filed a claim with Paypal.



I am willing to accept the partial refund as stated. I also ask that you please look at the bigger picture here. You are going down a path that many other before you have gone. It never ends well. Resolve this issue, learn from it, and do not make this mistake in the future.



Fighting this is only going to make it worse and hurt your opportunities to sell on Fauna. Please do the right thing.



On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 11:03 PM, Josh Davis <[email protected]> wrote:

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1512994#post1512994



Please address




On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 9:11 PM, Josh Davis <[email protected]> wrote:


Ok so by your last response I am assuming you are no longer interested in working this out?



On Sep 13, 2012 9:09 PM, "Ramon Acosta" <[email protected]> wrote:


I issues several apologies already not another more will be issued.

On Sep 13, 2012 11:05 PM, "Josh Davis" <[email protected]> wrote:


Here is the ad. No where did it state that was FL shipping price. You did say local preferred. I will accept the partial refund as long as it comes with an apology

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "Josh Davis" <[email protected]>
Date: Sep 11, 2012 9:26 AM
Subject:
To: "Josh Davis" <[email protected]>

Balls Available:
Females
Granite het albino 1200 grams visual markers bred from a friend $800shipped
Congo 600 grams Eugene stock $600 shipped
2 proven normals 1600 & 2200grams Bay Area Rept. $125 shipped
Sub adult 800 $100 shipped

Males
Amir Spider reduced pattern high white & gold brother is a super 2400 grams no Nero $180 shipped
Amir Mojave tons of blush proven 1800 grams $250 shipped
Pastel Yellowbelly male Ben Sigel 400 grams 350 shipped
Amir Lesser 300 grams $200 shipped

Packages and discounts available need to move fast local preferred but will ship, payments through Paypal, Square Up, Money Order or CASH

Contact direct to
[email protected]
407 470 0352

Pic 1 granite het albino
Pic 2 Congo
Pic 3 spider
Pic 4 Mojave

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Thanks,

Josh Davis






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Thanks,

Josh Davis



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Thanks,

Josh Davis



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Thanks,

Josh Davis





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Thanks,


Urban Exoticz
Ramon J. Acosta, Jr.

347.459.5036

"No! Snakes are no problem. I'd go to any country, anywhere, any snake, not a problem." - Steve Irwin




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Josh Davis



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Ramon Acosta



12:42 PM (3 minutes ago)














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Well now see what youve done, you told me that you wouldnt go public unless we worked it out. I gave you 2 options you didnt accept neither of them at the time

 

[Lucille]

Ramon Acosta



11:28 AM (1 hour ago)














to me











Your right my quarrel is with you, but she clearly disrespected me all because you went public with it she had no right in addressing me that way so I have to defend myself no matter what or who. I will agree to that refund if you delete your posting and publicly apologies for the little misunderstanding and creating that post. I was hoping to keep it private but you seem to get enjoyment out of this for what reason.

Posts here cannot be deleted, Ramon.
Josh, I believe he is still dancing around trying to manipulate you. I would just file at 3 and be done with it, you clearly did not receive what you paid for and do not have to dance to his tune to get it back

 

[joshjtd]

Not sure what is going on but My copy and paste is going all weird. Ramon is still insisting that I am in the wrong here. I have tried to communicate and given the opportunity to fix this. I will proceed as stated earlier at 3pm if not resolved.

 

[KORBIN5895]

Call me a jerk but I would go for the whole refund myself. He didn't send you what you paid for and he is being an idiot. How old is he anyway?

 

[joshjtd]

Call me a jerk but I would go for the whole refund myself. He didn't send you what you paid for and he is being an idiot. How old is he anyway?

Even though I got something way different that what I paid for, I still wouldn't feel right about getting something for nothing.

His ad did state that he was looking to move these snakes for funds for a new car. Times are tough for people and I do not wish to make them tougher.

 

[joshjtd]

Resolved

I wanted to post that Ramon has issued a refund in the amount of $125 as agreed.

Thank you Ramon for doing the right thing.

 

[Lucille]

Good deal, glad it was resolved.

 

[joshjtd]

Ramon has requested that I make a public apology for taking this to the BOI.

Ramon,

I am sorry that it came to this. I am sorry that I took this to the BOI instead of continuing to communicate privately. My intention was not to publicly humiliate or embarass you. I am grateful that we were able to resolve the issue.

 

[Fangthane]

Ramon has requested that I make a public apology for taking this to the BOI.

Ramon,

I am sorry that it came to this. I am sorry that I took this to the BOI instead of continuing to communicate privately. My intention was not to publicly humiliate or embarass you. I am grateful that we were able to resolve the issue.

I'm glad that he was finally shamed into making resitution, however, you owe him absolutely nothing. He knowingly screwed the pooch, and then wants to complain about being caught doing so. Welcome to "The List", Ramon.

 

[ByRandom]

I agree with Dan. You don't owe Ray an apology at all. But, under the circumstances, I understand and can read between the lines.

As it is, we all should be thanking you for outing yet another bad guy in our hobby.

Thank you, Josh Davis!