Bad Guy Scammed by Reptile Addictions/Wendy Childs

[Bill T]

Sory lucille it didn't quote the whole post

 

[Bill T]

Greetings. I saw you mention my business name in your ad. While I do not have specific recollection of selling you anything, I sell so much, I may not accurately recall. In aany case, I can have such as Chameleon Forums, and all other advertising formats, remove any reference to me from any ads you post. Hope that all is well, and wish you much success otherwise.

However. You and me have a problem. That you can easily remedy. You currently owe Wendy in WA $100. Just cut the crap, and send her the $100. Then attempt no more business with her. I highly recommend that you fix this, and fix it now. If you do not, I will go out of my way to mention your business habits, of which I do not approve, in my website. In detail. I will also speak of you in ways to many of my West Coast customers that will not put you in a good light. And I will do it with conviction.
This is an easy fix for you. Send the $100. Confirm to me that you have done it.. Then move on wiser. Take care. Thanks.
Jim.
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That sounds like extortion

 

[KelliH]

Yeah, I'd like to see the headers from that email. While it does seem logical that Jim would "defend" her because of past posts here, it does not read like a message from Jim, who is a stickler for proper grammar and punctuation.

 

[Lucille]

I won the claim with paypal but then she appeals it and that's it where I'm at. .

If it were me, I'd sent Paypal a copy of this thread.

Then she tells The Chameleon Company that I owe her $100 and they send me a threatening letter stating I must pay back Wendy Childs of WA or they will destroy me.
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And a second copy to your local DA's office.

 

[LauraB]

I agree with Kelli - while not at all surprising that Jim would jump in to defend Wendy, that email does not read like one Jim would actually compose. It actually sounds more like something Wendy would compose - she ain't exactly what I would call articulate. He is.

What address did Jim's email generate from? Who is the PayPal account register to? She's used her aunt's PayPal in the past.

Wendy has a history/pattern of idle, veiled threats and feigning "victim", as well as a history of poor customer service, poor judgement, excuses and questionable practices.
Before he was banned Jim was always her mouth-piece, he always fought her battles for her (for whatever illogical, irrational reasons).

Please don't waiver in your PayPal claim. You deserve every penny back.
Save every email, every voice mail or text msg, any correspondence at all. Don't pay attention to veiled threats.

And from here on out, don't advertise stock you do not actually have in your possession - not even to say you will have for sale.

 

[hhmoore]

Exactly why I asked about the headers.
Jim Flaherty always represented himself well in his posts here...the fragmented structure and other errors don't mesh with my memory of how Jim did things. It just doesn't "read' like an email from Jim.

I think I'll drop him a line, make him aware that his name has been brought into this...
Given that he is banned, he may choose not to respond to me - even to confirm or deny any involvement in this situation - but it seems like the right thing for me to do.

 

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What address did Jim's email generate from? Who is the PayPal account register to? She's used her aunt's PayPal in the past.

Wendy has a history/pattern of idle, veiled threats and feigning "victim", as well as a history of poor customer service, poor judgement, excuses and questionable practices.
Before he was banned Jim was always her mouth-piece, he always fought her battles for her (for whatever illogical, irrational reasons).

Please don't waiver in your PayPal claim. You deserve every penny back.
Save every email, every voice mail or text msg, any correspondence at all. Don't pay attention to veiled threats.will have for sale.

you have a whole community here to give you support and many who an personally back you up with info on how they have been dealt under hand by wendy. don't let these fake scare tactics stop you from getting your money back. i have read many of the wendy BOIs and she always seems to deploy the same tactic, trying to bully her way into keeping both reptiles and money.

you have all the evidence you need and plenty of background info on her to supply to paypal and your cc company if need be. don't let her get away with how she is treating you.

 

[Killer Chams]

Ok so you paid in full for the lot of nosey's and Wendy didnt ship. Now shes claiming YOU owe HER another $100! Thats just crazy. Dont let her get away with it. Either get your chams or get your refund. At this point I'd take the $$$ and run I'd be scared to accept any animals from her now.


Scott Kilsby/Killer Chams

website coming soon......

 

[madchameleon]

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Brandon,
Greetings. I saw you mention my business name in your ad. While I do not have specific recollection of selling you anything, I sell so much, I may not accurately recall. In aany case, I can have such as Chameleon Forums, and all other advertising formats, remove any reference to me from any ads you post. Hope that all is well, and wish you much success otherwise.

However. You and me have a problem. That you can easily remedy. You currently owe Wendy in WA $100. Just cut the crap, and send her the $100. Then attempt no more business with her. I highly recommend that you fix this, and fix it now. If you do not, I will go out of my way to mention your business habits, of which I do not approve, in my website. In detail. I will also speak of you in ways to many of my West Coast customers that will not put you in a good light. And I will do it with conviction.

This is an easy fix for you. Send the $100. Confirm to me that you have done it.. Then move on wiser. Take care. Thanks.

Jim
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The Chameleon Company, LLC

 

[rcarichter]

If you do not, I will go out of my way to mention your business habits, of which I do not approve, in my website. In detail. I will also speak of you in ways to many of my West Coast customers that will not put you in a good light. And I will do it with conviction.
Jim
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The Chameleon Company, LLC

Since the OP has proof of no wrongdoing, would this not constitute libel?

Confirm to me that you have done it

Sorry, WHAT???

Any chance that this came from 'Jim' because Jim is already banned and threats against members are grounds for suspension? Wouldn't want to risk an active membership.

 

[rcarichter]

Forgot to sign.

Noelle Richter

 

[hhmoore]

Brandon,
You've referred to it as a letter, then an email...now it was a PM?
Was this on ChameleonForums.com?

 

[Killer Chams]

Can a banned member still send pm's on fauna? Im a member of cham forums and we rarely see Jim on there. After rereading that pm that sure has the grammar & spelling of a Wendy post.

 

[hhmoore]

Can a banned member still send pm's on fauna?

No. When a banned member logs in they get a vBulletin message stating:

You have been banned for the following reason:
(ban explanation shown here)

Date the ban will be lifted: (Date and Time shown here)

While logged in, the only navigation item that works is the Contact Us page.
They can't view forums, classifieds etc.
Obviously, they can do those things when viewing as a guest (not logged in)...but any attempts to post or send messages would come to a quick halt when they tried to log in.

 

[Suncoast Herpetological]

Since the OP has proof of no wrongdoing, would this not constitute libel?



Sorry, WHAT???

Any chance that this came from 'Jim' because Jim is already banned and threats against members are grounds for suspension? Wouldn't want to risk an active membership.

Unless you are a friend of Ms. Childs, I can't see where the leap you have made above would make any sense to a rational person

 

[rcarichter]

Unless you are a friend of Ms. Childs, I can't see where the leap you have made above would make any sense to a rational person

Well, the OP has proof that she sent a payment. There is no tracking number to trace 15 animals, so I guess I am making the 'leap' that they were never sent. But, it seems as though they were not. Therefore, intentionally defaming the OP's business with the false statement that he 'owes $100', becomes libel the second it is put out as an email.
I'm stating that I personally do not believe that 15 animals were successfully sent and recieved without any tracking whatsoever. I'm also stating that it seems to me an implausible coincidence that there was a shootout, a city shutdown, a major health problem with the seller, a complete loss of tracking by UPS, and someone willing to steal 15 chameleons on the belief that all tracking would disappear, all in the same week. I admit I could be wrong. If I am, I apologize.

Noelle

 

[madchameleon]

Brandon,
You've referred to it as a letter, then an email...now it was a PM?
Was this on ChameleonForums.com?

I said letter meant message. Does the form of delivery really matter? You asked me to post it then you question the authenticity of it.

My only intent for this entire post was to warn people. I have already received my money back and I'm not trying to persuade people in my favor. Again, this was purely meant as a warning.

 

[madchameleon]

and yes the PM was sent on chameleonforums

 

[wyldwurm]

I said letter meant message. Does the form of delivery really matter? You asked me to post it then you question the authenticity of it.

My only intent for this entire post was to warn people. I have already received my money back and I'm not trying to persuade people in my favor. Again, this was purely meant as a warning.

Really, if you feel the need to post a warning, you should offer real proof to back up your statement. Otherwise, it's just an accusation and nothing more.
That really does not look like something Jim would write so I would have to agree with the others.

A screenshot would have saved you the extra work

 

[Suncoast Herpetological]

Well, the OP has proof that she sent a payment. There is no tracking number to trace 15 animals, so I guess I am making the 'leap' that they were never sent. But, it seems as though they were not. Therefore, intentionally defaming the OP's business with the false statement that he 'owes $100', becomes libel the second it is put out as an email.
I'm stating that I personally do not believe that 15 animals were successfully sent and recieved without any tracking whatsoever. I'm also stating that it seems to me an implausible coincidence that there was a shootout, a city shutdown, a major health problem with the seller, a complete loss of tracking by UPS, and someone willing to steal 15 chameleons on the belief that all tracking would disappear, all in the same week. I admit I could be wrong. If I am, I apologize.

Noelle

Based on your post above are you possibly confusing OP (Original Poster) with the subject of the thread?

It sounds like your doubts pertain to Wendy, not the starter of the thread.