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Info Thomas Dorn - aeterrabyte

I honestly think he held the snake by the neck too tight, causing the neck injury and the water caused neurological damage.

Oh and got to give Chris Durante(Fauna user Durante) Props for his signature:

"Don't believe everything you read on the internet"
- Abraham Lincoln
 
RichsBallPythons said:
So hes calling people a bunch of morons who been keeping and breeding for over 20+ years.

So i guess 2 years keeping and reciting google searches on a disease he knows nothing about qualifies him a expert. The guy knows nothing about what hes doing, if hes not going to listen to US morons, why is he reading other forums and reciting that info to us like hes a Pro.

To the OP regardless of your TOS, I wouldnt refund a DIME to him. He is on a searching rampage trying to find answers where there are none. This isnt IBD nor is what is happening your fault. Two weeks later snake shows problems of Neurological distress.
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You guys are not only morons but children. Keeping information from me that I need to keep animals live. You people are obsessed about your 650 dollars that I'm disputing and have months to resolve. Right now that is the least of my concerns. I am concerned about this killerbee and the rest of my snakes. That 650 is being disputed on my credit card I am not paying interest on it. I don't really care about it at the moment. You need to grow up. I don't care how long you have been keeping snakes. Your so ready to defend your buddy, and you have no fin clue if it is IBD or not thats why your a moron. Your speaking bullshit out your mouth. You don't know what it is.
 
How do you not know it's IBD did you take a piece of the liver and look under a microscope? No you didn't thats why your a moron because your saying like you know when you don't know. Nobody knows what it is right now.
 
aeterrabyte said:
You guys are not only morons but children. Keeping information from me that I need to keep animals live. You people are obsessed about your 650 dollars that I'm disputing and have months to resolve. Right now that is the least of my concerns. I am concerned about this killerbee and the rest of my snakes. That 650 is being disputed on my credit card I am not paying interest on it. I don't really care about it at the moment. You need to grow up. I don't care how long you have been keeping snakes. Your so ready to defend your buddy, and you have no fin clue if it is IBD or not thats why your a moron. Your speaking bullshit out your mouth. You don't know what it is.
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Yep, I know nothing just spewing out childish rantings. You sir have just :shootfoot From all of this. You can file the charge all you want with the CC company, but once they see this thread, itll show fraud on your part! Which if they follow the book will DENY your claim! Which I hope they do deny it!

So you think you know everything, yet you cant even QT your animals properly and want to point blame on the person you got the snake from. Whos to say whats going on is Robs fault. Only you were there when you noticed all this.No one is denying you any information you dont want to listen to a bunch of morons as you stated! And yes when someone with my time involved with snakes and many in this thread speaks you should listen!!:ack2:

Im not buddies to the OP, ive never bought anything from him, But when i see a customer of your magnitude spewing off garbage by the truck load i will come in and say my piece.

And I will say it a again Its NOT IBD. should make this a drinking game everytime you read NOT IBD in this thread.
 
aeterrabyte said:
You guys are not only morons but children. Keeping information from me that I need to keep animals live. You people are obsessed about your 650 dollars that I'm disputing and have months to resolve. Right now that is the least of my concerns. I am concerned about this killerbee and the rest of my snakes. That 650 is being disputed on my credit card I am not paying interest on it. I don't really care about it at the moment. You need to grow up. I don't care how long you have been keeping snakes. Your so ready to defend your buddy, and you have no fin clue if it is IBD or not thats why your a moron. Your speaking 88888888 out your mouth. You don't know what it is.
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I dont know the seller anymore than rich does Im sure. I never seen or heard of him before your little girl crying posts popped up.

I am also certain it is against the rules to cuss on here as well.
 
aeterrabyte said:
How do you not know it's IBD did you take a piece of the liver and look under a microscope? No you didn't thats why your a moron because your saying like you know when you don't know. Nobody knows what it is right now.
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ITS NOT IBD. Ive seen it FIRST HAND and know what to expect and your video shows nothing of IBD.

If it was IBD like i said His collection would be suffering right now with the snakes dropping like flies. Which apparently they are not!
 
aeterrabyte said:
How do you not know it's IBD did you take a piece of the liver and look under a microscope? No you didn't thats why your a moron because your saying like you know when you don't know. Nobody knows what it is right now.
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And yourr assuming its IBD based on liver biospy results or what?
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qO0cVJwqyUw IBD.
They go crazy. Then die. Then half your collection is gone pretty fast. It is not that. Neurological it can be though. The high heat in the box, if accurate to room temp, I'll even give you 75, as that's ambient in my reptile room. That's a 35 degree swing really drastically. After that, another 13 degree swing immediately to the 88 degree rack. That could do it for a small snake. I have had many spider genes over the years, and they all go crazy with their head. I'm looking at a 250 gram bee do it as I write this. Your snake seems lethargic, and I would consider a RTI well before IBD. The body twists are normal for a bee. I'll attempt to post a video of this specific bee. We are not morons, but what you are reading on google search is misleading. I've been breeding and keeping all types of ball pythons for years, and never have seen IBD firsthand. Rich has. He knows his stuff better than most of the sites you're likely reading. And to add, I have never met or talked to any of these guys, nor done business with them. I would listen to them though.
 
I listened to all of you. All you told me is that it's not IBD which you have no way of proving. You even said your self you need to check it after it is dead. You have a hunch that it's not IBD. The fraud is on the sellers part not honoring his advertisement. I am obviously very very very unhappy with this animal. Just look at the video. It speaks for it's self. There is no lack of husbandry that could cause that in 1 day and the vet will affirm that tomorrow.

I want to know ROB, do you have your pythons and boas in the same room and have you had any mites.
 
aeterrabyte said:
Keeping information from me that I need to keep animals live..... I am concerned about this killerbee and the rest of my snakes.....
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There's plenty of information out there, for those who are willing to work at finding it. Your reading a couple of sentences here and there from half-hearted Google searches isn't going to cut it. The seller shouldn't be held accountable for your own ignorance, neither should we.

It's a shame that this sudden concern wasn't present before you decided to go off half-cocked and jump right in to try to cash in on the BP morph market. An ounce of prevention is worth...meh, nevermind. For someone who's claiming to be unconcerned about the money, your methodology is indicative of someone for whom profit was the sole motivator.
 
aeterrabyte said:
I listened to all of you. All you told me is that it's not IBD which you have no way of proving. You even said your self you need to check it after it is dead. You have a hunch that it's not IBD. The fraud is on the sellers part not honoring his advertisement. I am obviously very very very unhappy with this animal. Just look at the video. It speaks for it's self. There is no lack of husbandry that could cause that in 1 day and the vet will affirm that tomorrow.

I want to know ROB, do you have your pythons and boas in the same room and have you had any mites.
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Thats your word. You could have had something on the paper towels that caused her issues. Regardless you had the snake for two weeks and were happy with it. Now you ruined the snake and you expect to get your money back. He offered the refund if you shipped the snake back right?


I still want to know if the vet truly has specialized training in exotic REPTILES.
 
Okay, Thomas...now we're talking. To answer your question directly: yes, no. Now, here's one for you: what happened to the snake between Saturday the 22nd, when you fed her a F/T mouse and she was 'fine', and Sunday the 23rd, when you tubed water into her mouth?
 
laterob said:
Okay, Thomas...now we're talking. To answer your question directly: yes, no. Now, here's one for you: what happened to the snake between Saturday the 22nd, when you fed her a F/T mouse and she was 'fine', and Sunday the 23rd, when you tubed water into her mouth?
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Asked and answered.
 
laterob said:
When? Where?
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She is in my quarantine room. Are your pythons in the same room with your boas?

I changed her water on friday. Then on saturday I feed her a small mouse. Sunday I went to check on her and she was twisted up and looked very dehydrated. That was when I put a moist paper towel in her hide. I left her for a few hours. She did not improve. I then did the water thing that every one is getting so worked up about. Only a slight improvement today, still not acting normal.
 
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