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Good Guy "Eric Ivins" of "South Central Herpetological", extremely impressed.

Also, you can not tell me that I did not let him settle in, I told you directly in an email that "I have not handled him since the the email you told me not to". You sold me a sick lizard that was WAY bigger than hatchling size..I'm sorry but 18" is not a tad bigger than hatchling. I'm including a link to his ad on kingsnake..
http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=53&de=921378
see how the savs fit clearly in his hand? the sav I recieved was as long as my forearm..
 
Also you can't tell me I did not give him time to settle in, I told you directly in an email that "I have not handled him since the email you told me not to, and he is still not eating". Truth of the matter is you sold me a sick savannah that was not a "tad" larger than hatchling..this thing is as long as my forearm! I'm including a link to his ad on kingsnake..
http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=53&de=921378
 
camaro3800series2 said:
I'm emailing them right now to you, I expressed to you that only after a week and a half of him not eating in his cage that I tried feeding him in different places. This savannah arrived to me sick and there is nothing wrong with my husbandry. This is not my first savannah so don't try giving me some "stressed" BS because stressed or not a savannah is not gonna let 5 or 6 crickets walk right past his face after 2 weeks of not eating (with correct substrate, temps, and humidity).
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you admit to handling the monitor regularly right after you received it. That doesn't really comply with the "settling in" factor. The temps, humidity, substrate could all be correct and the animal will still be under considerable stress from shipping (which could contribute to dehydration, which in turn contributes to the animal not wanting to eat.).
If the animal is stressed and deydrated, its not going to eat.
 
You seem very certain that your husbandry practices are correct, yet you were unaware that the animal shouldnt be handled or even bothered much for at least a week after receiving it.
 
I received a great pair of Sipiliwini Tincs from Eric, they were in perfect shape and for WC animals could have passed for CB. I drove across state to pick them up, he was very accomodating and I would buy from him again.
Mark Pulawski
 
I sent the pictures to Eric hours ago and still no response..I guess I'll have to watch my monitor suffer while he deals with his "viral infection"...

And Ron-If you would have read my emails correctly I did not handle the monitor for a full week and a half after the day of recieving him. I only went in his cage to mist it, refill his water bowl, and toss in 5-6 crickets..next time get all the info before you throw your 2 cents in there.
 
These are the pictures that were sent - I see issues right off the bat......

1 - Where is the cover at? I see one hide, and I think most would agree that is not sufficient.

2 - The substrate is dry. These animals need a substrate that needs a high moisture content. Just topsoil is not going to cover it. 50% sand, 30% topsoil, and 20% peat moss or similiar will give you a substrate that will hold moisture. You should be able to make a dirt ball with it and it not fall apart.

3 - Substrate depth. These are fossorial animals. They should have atleast 12" of substrate. 16-24" would be ideal. This goes back to the moisture content in the substrate because they will make tunnels. With the right moisture, those tunnels will become permanent.

4 - I would invest in better temperature equipment. A temp gun will give you an accurate reading on surface temperature. These digital readers are known to be very inaccurate at times.


I see some basic husbandry errors that can be corrected. Once they are, the animal will more than likely turn around. From the picture, the animal is not in bad condition at all. You want me to be so quick to replace the animal, but you are going to run into the same issues. Go back to the drawing board. Correct the husbandry, cover the front of the enclosure with newspaper, give the animal a few days of NO interaction, and take it from there. Don't be so quick to judge. Every animal is different, and the experience you had in the past does not apply to this situation. The animal is not in dire straits like you seem to think.
 

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Did i see that right, Using a incandescent light bulb. Wheres the UV light and proper Bulb, Id say the bulb used was too much light being given off thus increasing the Stress.

And Substrate is way to shallow for a burrowing digging species. They love clutter and hiding!!!
 
I love how you are so quick to point out my husbandry issues when the whole time I was expecting a sav that was maybe an inch or two bigger than hatchling..when you crammed a 18" long sav in a box that was 12"x7"x6" with an 1" of styrofoam lining around the inside. I had a perfectly fine enclosure for the animal I was expecting, I was forced to make last minute arrangements and the animal didn't even last a full 2 weeks..
 
camaro3800series2 said:
I love how you are so quick to point out my husbandry issues when the whole time I was expecting a sav that was maybe an inch or two bigger than hatchling..when you crammed a 18" long sav in a box that was 12"x7"x6" with an 1" of styrofoam lining around the inside. I had a perfectly fine enclosure for the animal I was expecting, I was forced to make last minute arrangements and the animal didn't even last a full 2 weeks..
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That size box is perfectly fine! By your response you clearly are ill informed on shipping protocols.

If you had the perfect setup, why didnt you replicate that to the bigger one if it was so spot on.
 
yeah rich, I'm sure wild caught savannahs love being stuck in a "U" shape for 24 hours while being shipped, I'm sure his spine and insides absolutely loved that! Even with completely wrong humidity and substrate(not that mine was) the sav should have lasted longer than 2 weeks...end of story
 
I also don't see any source of ultra violet B, or ultra violet A, as that appears to be a common yellow bulb but I could be wrong.
The substrate looks extremely dry and shallow, don't these critters like to burrow around in it?
I have that same thermometer, and its generally 5 degrees off up or down when calibrated against more reliable equipment.
The animal does not have loose skin or sunken eyes, and it doesn't appear underweight. I'd like to see some proof that it died by way of photo.
What kind of substrate is that? Are those pieces of perlite in it?
Where is the humidity gauge?

I don't know, I don't think Eric owes you much.
 
camaro3800series2 said:
yeah rich, I'm sure wild caught savannahs love being stuck in a "U" shape for 24 hours while being shipped, I'm sure his spine and insides absolutely loved that! Even with completely wrong humidity and substrate(not that mine was) the sav should have lasted longer than 2 weeks...end of story
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And again, what you think they do in the wild in their burrow. Have 3-5ft long burrows to stretch out. They curl up as well so again, rethink your logic.
 
camaro3800series2 said:
yeah rich, I'm sure wild caught savannahs love being stuck in a "U" shape for 24 hours while being shipped, I'm sure his spine and insides absolutely loved that! Even with completely wrong humidity and substrate(not that mine was) the sav should have lasted longer than 2 weeks...end of story
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The animal isnt that large, a quick trip to the petstore SOMETIME in the last two weeks and you could have gotten the right lighting and heating equipment. You had a yellow household bulb glaring just inches away from your monitor lizard in a cage with no humidity, no substrate depth and no place to hide, what did you expect to happen exactly?

These animals will spend days and weeks in a "U" shape in a small hole in the ground...I'm sure a day in a shipping box isnt the problem here.

I think you are in the wrong here, I think the animal died (if it died) because you didn't care for it correctly. This nonsense quibble over the size of the animal doesn't really add up to much.
 
whats your email address and I'll prove to you the animal died. You guys are completely unreasonable, with correct temperatures (even 5* off RON) Zero humidity, Zero UVB/UVA the animal should have lasted more than 2 weeks. He had 5" of MOIST topsoil to burrow in, which is fine for that size savannah, I removed 2 of his hides to keep the crickets and dubias from hiding from him. This animal arrived to me sick and not as described..I guess you idiots never clicked the link I added a few posts back saying he was selling HATCHLING!!! size savannahs! You guys are idiots defending another heartless idiot!

Also, the african savannah where these animals hail from IS NOT THAT HUMID!!! his cage stayed at 65% which is reccomended for these animals.

You guys can say what you want but the animal should have lasted more than 2 weeks, even in worst possible conditions, which he wasn't in. Stress doesn't kill a Sav in 2 weeks.
 
camaro3800series2 said:
whats your email address and I'll prove to you the animal died. You guys are completely unreasonable, with correct temperatures (even 5* off RON) Zero humidity, Zero UVB/UVA the animal should have lasted more than 2 weeks. He had 5" of MOIST topsoil to burrow in, which is fine for that size savannah, I removed 2 of his hides to keep the crickets and dubias from hiding from him. This animal arrived to me sick and not as described..I guess you idiots never clicked the link I added a few posts back saying he was selling HATCHLING!!! size savannahs! You guys are idiots defending another heartless idiot!

Also, the african savannah where these animals hail from IS NOT THAT HUMID!!! his cage stayed at 65% which is reccomended for these animals.

You guys can say what you want but the animal should have lasted more than 2 weeks, even in worst possible conditions, which he wasn't in. Stress doesn't kill a Sav in 2 weeks.
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Calm down, Your being told setup isnt the best and needs improvements.

With reptiles Shipping CAN be fatal if stress is not reduced considerably. Which is why its recommended to leave them alone 1-2 weeks. And if husbandry is off, that stress just adds on which will kill.

Also refrain from calling people idiots, that are only helping you in your error of ways of husbandry.
 
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