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Pet store robbery and Daytona show

With everything I've read, and the email interaction I've had with him, I can say that I trust Jeff Nester's ethics in this business.  If Jeff says that he talked to this unnamed source, and that it is for real, I believe it.

So, Dave, you are no longer just spitting at Neil anymore, you are now identified as someone who is lying about the issue by someone who has not heretofore been sullied by the other "thread of doom."  What are you going to say now?  If you say that Jeff has lied, you will look like a fool.  If you say that he is a lackey of Neil, you will look pathetic.  If you say that I am a lackey of Neil, you will look like a potted plant!  Fess up, man!

The clock is ticking on whatever credibility you have left. . .
 
Funny thing about lie detector tests...
If you can convince yourself you are telling the truth[even if you are lying] you will and can pass a lie detector test
If you want to know how I know this 'been there done that'!!
we all have a few skeletons in our past as do I
I guess that explains why you can't use one in court


Ya know you got to wonder what kind of reputation these two will have in a year
 
There is a reason that Lie Detector tests arent admissable in court. They are not accurate. A person can be coached to beat one. Or a person can lie about every question they are asked and therefore there isnt a basis on whats the truth or a lie.

Just my two cents.
 
Ticked and appalled, You two (one) are a hoot.You are such decent law abidding people that you can't follow the easiest of rules.You "must" post you full name so your post means very little.You are what we call a one post wonder.I find it funny that both post were posted so very close together, Just enough time to post one enter a new name and post again.

Who told you about this board if you are not into reptiles?

Since you saw the news report would you care to tell everyone what the very last thing Peg said in that story or do you want me to?

Never mind I'll do it.

They closed in on her face and she said "I know you stole my animals to sell at the Daytona show,I'll be there and I will find them" the end of the story.

See everyone in Daytona.
 
"Appalled" and "Ticked",
Both of your respective posts were deleted due to the fact that neither one of you divulged your names, as required by the rules of this site.

This topic is just a tad to volatile to allow anonymous posts to linger for any period of time. You're more than welcome to repost your replies, so long as you take ownership of them and post using your full name.

Cheers,
Moderator01
 
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Neil IS telling the truth about the albino boa dave was trying to sell.  I have verified this with the source, who will still remain nameless by request. This source is one that everyone here would accept and believe.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

I am confused....
about the albino boa...

okay the source will say that Dave was trying to sell it....is that right?  Or is the source saying something else?

Because Dave is not denying having the albino boa.
In fact....he has someone in Georgia that can verify the snake as his.  So I do not see the point in "the source" verifying the story.

Unless of course I missed something and there is another long story behind it.

Because your "source" can verify that Dave has an albino boa.
Well shiat....Dave himself verified he has the albino boa.

So what is the whole story on the albino boa?  I guess I missed something
 
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">bah! my last post to this thread was deleted.. I guess Ken (or Rich) didn't see the same message in the picture that I did</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

I can vouch that I didn't delete it, and I don't believe Rich did either, since he's allowing me a lot of discretion in what stays and what goes.
 
Dave,
You told Joe that you would try to locate a burm for him, but you didn't find one until Peg's store was broken into, because Joe was in Miami the day she was broken into. When they called and told me what happened, I started calling some of the dealers around her, and told them what was missing. And since Joe was in Miami, I talked to his employee Bob. I gave a him a detailed description of the animals that were taken. Bob passed in onto Joe when he came back the next day. Then is when you came up with a 13 foot abp. Being that Joe felt the snake was "hot" that's when he refused to buy it form you. You wanted to trade $100.00 cash and trade animals so you would have animals at the show. Then I called you and left a message for you to call me. The snake you told me you had was 9 foot and you wouldn't sell it to me because it was sick. If you had made me the same offer you made Joe, I guarantee you would be in jail now, because unlike Joe, I'm not afraid to get involved. And I would help law enforcement any way neseccary to put a rat like you where you belong. If you don't agree with what I'm posting, pack a lunch, and your couple of friends, we'll take a ride to the back woods some place, and we'll square it up a different way. You can take this any way you like.

For you who don't understand about the albino boa, it was also offered to Joe. The albino boa we are talking about could have come from It's Alive Pets. You notice we are all talking about 1 albino boa, Dave, not 2 or 3 or 4, not from GA, and it's been offered to more than one person in Tampa. You lead people to believe you are such the great breeder, and you have such a great faciltiy, I haven't seen anything on your property but a white school bus. Is that your breeding facitlity? Maybe for rats and mice. Why do you try to make out to be a big shot, you're a nobody. You can't even afford to honestly buy anything leggit. You always have some poor girl or sucker pay for your crap. I feel sorry for them, they always find out what you are, a big joke. Too bad you don't have eyes behind your head, you should see the faces people make behind your back, rolling their eyes at you. Have a great time at the show.
Ray Marteliz
 
Dave, I just want to see a lie detector test on Julie and Jason while you are making demands.
Jenny Marteliz
 
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">For you who don't understand about the albino boa, it was also offered to Joe. The albino boa we are talking about could have come from It's Alive Pets.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>


got it I think.....thanks
 
Ray...Don't sugar-coat it?? Next time...tell him how you REALLY feel! Like I can't! (on here&#33<img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'> ....Neil
 
Ray, You said this

</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>You notice we are all talking about 1 albino boa, Dave, not 2 or 3 or 4, not from GA,</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">

Yes Ray, you, Neil and Jenny are only talking about the one Boa ,because if you say that I had a pair for sale you will prove that I did not have a stolen snake Since only one was stolen.I also offered Joe the messured 16' abp on friday and he said then it was to much $$$$.Just so everyone understands that was the Friday before Pegs was robbed.

Now ,you and Jenny have never been asked to come to my house,invited or allowed on my property,But you said

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I haven't seen anything on your property but a white school bus. Is that your breeding facitlity</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

So my question is this, Have you been casing my house sneaking around at night? Could it be you that is doing all these midnight runs? How many 12" plus albino burms have you sold in the last month?

Ray, Ray sweet old Ray it has come to you wanting to fight me. Talk about childish. But I guess when everyone is about to see you for what you truely are you want to turn to violance. No, Ray I will not meet you in the woods you are what 60 years old 5'-4" 150 soaking wet.
 
Hopefully the wormhole problem is fixed now, but I'm not holding my breath.

Just a brief rundown of what probably caused this- Last night, I deleted two rather lengthy replies last night from two folks who'd rather hide behind pseudonyms than follow the rules of the board. My original intent was to just delete the content of the messages, but that didn't quite work out as I had expected. For some reason, the replies after those messages were compressed to about 2/3 normal width. To avoid that problem, the netire replies were deleted, which leads us to our current problem . <img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>
 
Let's see....Ray is close to his 60's, 5'6", and 150 lbs soaking wet....

Dave, on the other hand, is in his 30's, 6'2", and about 350 lbs of pure lard...

I'll put $100 on Ray, ANY DAY! ....Neil
 
Dave,
I admit my negligence in not posting my full name. I'd happily reply to your post as it seems you believe many of us have pseudo names/personalities. I am Riki Courtman (appalled)- quite different then Ticked who is MY daughter and possesses a mind and opionion of her own. Do you have a spread sheet of posts which are time sensitive and in alphabetical order? I noticed you thought Peg and Lill were also the same person. HAHA! Want to talk about ignorance?  My daughter volunteers her time at Peg's incredibly wonderful store and is "ticked" over this entire situation. Hence, how we know about this board.

I have no desire to do battle with you Dave, but why is it you find pleasure in badmouthing people and acting so high and mighty? Do you not have a life? Was your mother not good to you as a child?  Is bad attention the same as good attention for you?
Instead of using this energy wastefully, why not try to help find the person (people) who is responsible for the break-ins?
Or do you already know who that is, Dave?

As lousy and obnoxious as you have been on this board - when I saw Peg last night - she still refused to say anything negative about you. She has handled your remarks with such grace it only makes her classier by the day.  

I admitted not knowing anything about snakes  - but I have learned an important fact - you are the largest, biggest snake I have come across.

Reputable people in this business should be ashamed of having someone like you associated in their field.  Maybe the next article in the paper or the next news cast should be for the people - who and who not to do business with. I doubt you'd score any points. With any luck - if you were interviewed- your words would not be misconstrued. Oh my gosh! if they were - you might have to deal with someone like yourself. HORROR!



 
I don't post here much, just read and try to learn about my ball pythons. i have come to the concluson that if i was running this BOI i would delite any and all posts from neil and dave
and stop this crap. so webslave why don't you do that and make alot of people happy
loren winters
 
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">i have come to the concluson that if i was running this BOI i would delite any and all posts from neil and dave
and stop this crap. so webslave why don't you do that and make alot of people happy </td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

webslave has stated on a few occasions that i've seen why he does not delete such posts or ban them from posting, and as he is the owner of this board, i personally respect his decision. granted it does get old, but one day, some way some how, the truth about this whole situation is going to come out.

as jeff (cnjreptiles) stated earlier, we know that neil is telling the truth about at least one aspect of his story. jeff spoke with him on the phone yesterday morning and when he got off the phone and told me who neil's "source" was, i said omg, neil's actually telling the truth. lol no offense neil.

again, as jeff stated in his post, we don't know any of the parties involved in this mess, we live in virginia and have never even been to florida. we don't do business with any of these folks either. i don't think that neil is going to crack the case all by himself but he does have some very valid points. i certainly hope whoever is behind all these break-in's is caught and soon.

with that said i'm off to work. hope everyone is having a blast down at daytona. come hell or highwater, jeff and i will be there next year. i hope. lol  <img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>
 
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